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John Brabant
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posted 10 February 2000 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Brabant     
FYI, those of you who are Bobby Black fans, two Commander Cody albums which feature Bobby's beautiful and dynamic steel playing and which have up 'til now been unavailable, are now available, but as far as I can tell, only via this commander cody website. The albums I speak of are "Hot Licks, Cold Steel, Truck Drivers Favorites" and "Tales from the Ozone". The first album, vintage 1973 I believe, Bobby plays a Sho-Bud, while Bobby plays an Emmons D-10 on the circa 1976 "Tales From the Ozone" album. The Tales album is one of my favorite albums of all time and for $20, shipping included, it is a deal. Here's the link, and when you get in the page, click on "CD's":
http://www.commandercody.com/

I just placed my order. Remember, these have been outta print and this may be a limited opportunity which I'm very much appreciative to have. Enjoy...-John Brabant

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posted 10 February 2000 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark Herrick     
Ahh, yes, “Mama Hated Diesels”...

Brings a tear to my eye just thinkin’ about it...

JB Arnold
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posted 10 February 2000 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JB Arnold     
Still ahve my original copies. The one I had that was in awful shape was Live at Armadillo, but I found a mint used copy at Amazon for $8! I'm gonna put that sucker on DAT. Best live album ever made.

"I'm lookin at the world thru a windsheild..."

Hot licks is a killer LP too.

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posted 10 February 2000 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Blair     
There is a song (a real good song) on "Tales from the Ozone" called "Connie" where Bobby plays this great instrumental hook to kick it off - one of my favorite all-time intros. Fabulous album, as was "Hot Licks", and you are right John, the live album from the Armadillo World Headquarters is one of the greatest live albums ever. I still have them all in vinyl, and I am going to order Tales and Hot Licks on cd right now. Just fantastic steel playing!!!


John Brabant
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posted 10 February 2000 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Brabant     
Yeah, "Connie", what a song. I musta' listened to that a thousand times. That's one of the songs that compelled me to get a steel, and it had to be an Emmons (black formica), just like the one Bobby is shown to be tinkering with underneath in a photo on the LP jacket. If any of you steelers never heard it, you don't know what you are missing. That song is the primary reason I am buying that "Tales from the Ozone" CD, although there is so much more that is great on the album. It doesn't get anymore country than that. What do you think Bobby was playing thru back then? Anyone venture a guess?


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posted 10 February 2000 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Ganz     
Luckily I still have ALL those albums
and there mint condition! Can't beat'em.
Also have most of the old Asleep at the Wheel
ones. Bobby's on one of their studio albums as well.


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posted 10 February 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Blair     
In the January '79 edition of Steel Guitarist there is a picture of Bobby with a Webb behind him, but that obviously came later. I have half a notion he used a Twin in the early Cody days, but not sure where I got that idea. I bet someone on the Forum knows - maybe Dan Tyack.


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posted 10 February 2000 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry Erickson     
"Live at the Armadillo" is now available on
CD, and it's still great.


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posted 10 February 2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry Erickson     
You guys jogged my memory(what's left of it).
How about that ride on "My Window Faces the South" on "Country Cassanova"?


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posted 10 February 2000 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
Bobby Black was one of my idols when I was learning to play. Now that I know him personally, he's still one of my idols! He's a fantastic player and a true gentleman.

I do get stage fright when I know he's in the audience listening, though. I can't help it. Those early recordings of his had such a profound effect on me!

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posted 10 February 2000 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Sinkler     
Bobby is a class act alright. I've known him for somewhere around 25 years and consider him an Idol, a gentleman and most of all, MY FRIEND. Been trying to get him to give me lessons (for 25 years) but he won't budge.

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posted 10 February 2000 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Feldman     
Yup - I think most everyone who was at the Sacramento show March '99 was very impressed with Bobby, both in terms of his great playing and for being such a good guy.


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posted 10 February 2000 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlie Hunter     
Ok, you really did it, now I have to dig out those albums, which I do have, and yes, cry along with Momma Hated diesels. I have all those records mentioned, please hand me the tissues, I need to "Wipe yor eyes ladies and gentlemen".

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JB Arnold
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posted 10 February 2000 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JB Arnold     
Sounds like a job for Dick's Lix!

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Bob Blair
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posted 10 February 2000 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Blair     
I can actually boast of or confess to (depending on your view of it) having performed "Mama" many times while fronting a band back in the ol' home town in my pre-pedal steel days. The old boys at the Lethbridge Miners' Library (which was, in point of fact, a bar, with no books to be seen) would look at us like we were from Mars.


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posted 10 February 2000 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dayton Osland     
I just pulled my two vinyl's of Commander Cody and saw that on "Ozone" the steel player is West Virginia Creeper. What else has he done? Side 1 has one outstanding songs one after another with great steel on each. I think I like his version of "Seeds and Stems" better than the Bobby Black version on the live album. Don't get me wrong both are great.

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posted 11 February 2000 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Tyack     
Bobby used to use a ShoBud amp in the early Cody days, as I remember. I do know that it was underpowered for the volume that those guys played (loud!!). Bobby started using a Session 400 as soon as those came out.

I'm going to have to get that Cold Licks, Hot Steel, and Truckers Favorites CD, that was one of my absolute favorites when I was starting out.

I've got to echo all the great things folks have said about Bobby. The three things that have impressed me the most about Bobby are his taste, originality, and utter humility. Oh, and the fact that he is the nicest guy you will ever meet.

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posted 11 February 2000 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Brabant     
Jerry E, yeah that intro and ride on Window Faces the South on Country Casanova is fast. The version on the 1976 "We've Gotta Live One Here" (this former double LP is now out on a single CD and the sound quality is spectacular!) is not as fancy. I copied both onto a tape and gave it to Mike Auldridge as his band Chesapeake was doing that song a couple years ago. Mike had never heard Bobby's renditions on the Cody album. Mike was blown away by it!
Dayton O., I read an interview with the good Commander about 14 years ago and he was asked about the West Virginia Creeper. He said the guy had real problems "stayin' in tune" and that he was out of tune during the recording of their first album ("...Ozone"). It may be my ear, but I think if you listen to the Creeper's playing on Hot Rod Lincoln, you will find he is a little off. If you like rock and roll, that is "real" rock and roll, Chuck Berry type stuff mixed with country and western swing, it doesn't get much better than the Ole' Commander with Bobby B. God I wish Bobby would come play somewhere in the Northeast!


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posted 11 February 2000 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Lacey     
Dan, I saw Bobby with Cody in Toronto about '74-75 and I swear he was playing a Sho-Bud through an Evans.


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posted 11 February 2000 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Herb Steiner     
I was at the Armadillo for that concert they recorded, and as I recall (though I do have CRS) Bobby was playing a D-12 Emmons. I have no idea what amp he was using, however.

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posted 11 February 2000 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Blair     
Pretty sure Bobby was using a Sho Bud back in the early days - I saw him in Calgary in the summer of 72 with those guys - they were opening for the Everlys (who I think had Rusty Young along). That was before I took up steel and I wouldn't have known a Sho Bud if I tripped over it. But on the "Live from Deep in the Heart of Texas" album when Bobby takes a ride someone in the band actually says "Bobby Black on the Sho Bud Pedal Steel Guitar" or words to that effect. And isn't there a picture of him with a Sho Bud in Winnie W's book?


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posted 11 February 2000 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Dollard     
"When Connie worked the new highway cafe"...featuring a great Hughey like slide. Pete


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posted 11 February 2000 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Brabant     
So Herb, you think Bobby played a D-12 and not a D-10? I am still learning about all of this stuff. Getting a little off topic for a moment, I always thought D-12's were more of a custom set up, but I keep hearing of all these folks with D-12's. Are they nearly as common as D-10's? And the D-12's have a couple more bass strings? Which ones and what are the advantages/disadvantages? Are there any reported differences in the tone between the P-P 10's and 12's?

..."On a rainy sunday mornin', that's the day that I was born in, that old sharecropper's, one room country shack. I've done all my country learnin, justa' milkin' and a churnin', I hit the road and never did once look back....I've been to Georgia, on a fast train honey...." Love it!!

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posted 11 February 2000 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Tyack     
Bobby did play a Sho Bud in the early CC days, it was a D10 'The Professional' guitar. I remember him playing a ShoBud amp (the single channel job that look like an Evans) but I could be wrong and it could have been an Evans. I'll ask him. Later Bobby played a D12 Emmons through a Session 400. After that he played a D10 Franklin for many years (as I recall his guitar has the serial number either just before or after my first Franklin). Bobby still owns and plays the Franklin. His main steel is the Carter you can see on the Carter site.

Bobby is also playing a lot of non-pedal these days, and is still experimenting and innovating with tunings and different approaches. He's certainly on of the most innovative and creative players who has ever played the steel.

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posted 11 February 2000 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark Herrick     
I think I have pictures taken during the recording of “Live From Deep In The Heart Of Texas.”
Now, if I can just remember where I put them 27 years ago...


John Brabant
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posted 11 February 2000 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Brabant     
Mark, find 'em and post 'em!!!!!!!


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posted 11 February 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Russell     
"Live at the Armadillo"

Wow, what memories! Talk about a great venue for all sorts of music. I was there that night too, Herb! It was actually recorded over a series of three nights as I recall.

Lots of great steel players graced that stage. I believe Buddy E. showed up one night with J.J. Cale. I saw Sneaky Pete there a couple of times with various incarnations of the Flying Burrito Brothers, Jimmy Day played with Willie Nelson there as well as with Greezy Wheels and others. Also, Jerry Garcia played steel with Doug Sahm, Leon Russell and Mary Egan one night. There were many others too, whose names I don't know. I remember hearing the Pointer Sisters one night with a steel player sitting in on a country song they used to perform. Herb, would you happen to know who that was?

But, by far the best times I remember was the nights Commander Cody played with the great B. Black and Bill Krichen on the Tele. That old place used to levitate off the ground, especially if you had a buzz, a cold Shiner beer and a plate of nachos.

Sorry guys, didn't meant to ramble on so, I just walked across the empty field where the Armadillo used to sit (about an hour ago) and I get nostalgic every time I pass by there. Seems like just the other day and yet it's been gone almost 20 years!

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posted 11 February 2000 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rex Blevins     
I think the Live album recorded in Austin was the best Bobby Black. For everyone who keeps questioning what he is playing at that show, don't you recall Commander Cody or one on them introducing one of Bobby's rides and SAYING he was playing on the SHO-BUD pedal steel guitar. Everyone needs to go back and listen to the Album..


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posted 11 February 2000 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Russell     
Oh yeah, make that "a buzz, a cold Shiner beer, a plate of nachos and being 25 years old!"

JR

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posted 11 February 2000 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Blair     
I heard that "Sho Bud" line on the album too Rex. But then, Herb remembers seeing an Emmons - no doubt there was a lot of ozone floating around, and maybe it's just as likely that Herb is right and the guy in the band who said it got it wrong!!


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posted 11 February 2000 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JB Arnold     
I have the vinyl album in good condition-looks like a sho-bud, but it's hard to tell-
maybe I can scan it and se it better later.

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posted 12 February 2000 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Herb Steiner     
I think it was a Sho~Bud, upon reflection. I think I saw Bobby with the Emmons when he played with the Wheel around 1980. It's all so dark now...

I had dinner with John Ely tonight, and we were reminiscing, and he mentioned what a good memory I had. I answered "excuse me, do I know you from somewheres?"

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posted 12 February 2000 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Rowley     
Back when I was in college (must have been during the winter of 1973-74 or 74-75) I had the privelege of seeing Commander Cody and the L.P.A. perform at some large joint in East Lansing, MI. This was in their heyday, Bobby Black, Bill Kirchen, and Andy Stein were all in the band. I had the first 3 Cody albums at the time and was wowwed by Bobby's playing on Hot Licks Cold Steel and Truckers Favorites. So I got backstage before the show and Bobby was tuning up his Sho-Bud Professional. I walked up to him, stuck my hand out, he shook it and we started to talk. I don't remember everything that was said, but I do recall complimenting him on his E9 style, and I do recall him saying something to the extent that he had been playing for over 20 years and that the L.P.A. boys drank a lot of beer and smoked a lot of "reefer". And I remember very clearly that he was very friendly, soft-spoken, and gracious with me (and he didn't have to be, I was just some dumb young guy who came to the show) and sincerely thanked me for my interest in what he was doing. Then the show started and it was about what I expected, not the tightest band in the world but a great groove with great Telecaster licks from Kirchen, real good fiddle and sax from Stein, excellent bass from Bruce Barlow, and awesome steel from Bobby! By the way, he did a good share of his so-called "C6 licks" on the E9 neck and never missed a stroke. Now some 25 or more years later I'll be playing somewhere and do some little fill sort of subconsciously, then ask myself "where did I come up with that sound?" only to realize that it was derived from something Bobby Black played on some Cody tune a long time ago. My only wish is that when I met Bobby that time if I had only known then about his extensive Western Swing background, perhaps I could have asked him about that part of his career as well. I have met many great pro steel players throughout my picking career but I sure would like to someday sit down and chat with Bobby Black again. What a player! Sorry so long-winded. Tim R.


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As long as we're sticking out our necks with dim memories, I seem to recall that Bobby was using an Evans amp around that time that he then sold to Lucky Oceans. The same (admittiedly dim) memory seems to recall that Lucky used that amp until it eventually blew up one too many times on the road. Either way, I do recall (a bit less dimly) seeing Bobby a few times with a Sho-Bud amp around that time ('73-'74ish).


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posted 12 February 2000 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Black     
I was sitting in the back of a pal's 72 Cutlass Convertible(what a car). In Massachusetts,I was probably 16. We were listening to the
'We've got a live one here", on cassette(the kid had a Cutlass,he wouldn't be caught dead with an 8-track). It was a while later I found out that sound was a steel and the guy that played it and I had the same last name. He's the first steel player I'm concious of hearing. I never forgot that. I met him in Reno in 96 and we talked about Western Swing steel and it's players all break. While the rest of the gang was gambling I was sitting watching. We got to know each other and one day he said he'd like to give something back to W.S.Music. I eagerly said "why don't you take me as a student?" I love WS and he knows it. He said "If you lived in the area I'll help all I can". Little did he(or I) know I'd take him up on it! I tossed in and moved,(For better or worse?)4 months ago.
He plays alot, he's with the New Riders as we speak,in Modesto, I think.
Hawiian appears to be his favorite music.He plays a Carter and Franklin for pedal guitars. He has a pre-war Richy 6 and a Sierra 8 lap, a Fender custom triple,a Richy DC-16 and a triple Bigsby, which he dosen't play near enough, for non-pedals. He uses a Peavy Something(Sesion?)400 and a Black face Princeton Reverb mostly. I know he's got a tweed 1x15 Bandmaster but I've never seen him use it.
He's been spending alot of time looking after his dad lately. And his Brother Larry (standard Guitar) had a bad accident a short time ago. He just got done with a week of gigs and recording with Don Burnham's "Lost Weekend" W.S. band. You have to hear Bobby and Clarinet whiz Jim Rothermel go at it!
My favorite was getting to hear him play a bunch of Sinatra related songs and standards. It's possible I'll be seeing him on Monday when I go to see another friend play a private party. I'll tell him about this post, I'm sure he'll be thrilled. When he makes good on his promise to come to my shack I'll make sure he see's the forum.
He's a great player and a swell cat.

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Just got my order of the 2 Cody CD's (Tales from the Ozone and Hot Licks). Wanted to let everyone know who might be wondering about sound quality, they are first rate, crystal clear, no his digital beauties and scratch free Bobby never sounded better. Back in my more wasted days, I could ignore scratches on records than I seem to be able to endure these days. Another mention, from what I can tell, Bobby is shown on the CD photo on "Tales.." as playing an Emmons D-10, I can count only 5 tuners on the front of the E9 neck that's visible. The photo on Hot Licks is a little less clear and can't make out the tuners, but he is playing a double neck Sho-Bud. Mike Black, I forwarded a message to Commander Cody by email from the Cody webpage informing him about Bobby's Brother. The excerpt below may be of interest to you Cody/Bobby Black and Steve Fishell fans:

The Story of Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen
In the fall of 1963 John Tichy was studying engineering at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, running the kitchen crew at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity and playing guitar in the only student band on campus, the AMBLERS. I was washing pots in the kitchen and doing a pretty poor job at it, when we became friends, and John found that I had played some piano and had taken some lessons. He invited me to jam along, and soon I was playing on their version of "You are my Sunshine" (in Aminor), Frank Winchester was the lead singer, and a guy who was twenty years ahead of his time. He was 6'4" and had bleached blonde hair. He wore a black leather glove on his left hand when he played the Tambourine and blew a mediocre harp with his right. Michigan heavy weight wrestling champ Guy Curtiss played bass and Steve Connelly was the drummer. When Frank died in a flaming (Chevy 409) crash on the Penn. Turnpike the following year, our hopes of recording went up in smoke.
John had started another band, the SSB (Schwaben Stage Band), named after the sleazy bar he was playing that summer ('64). When I returned to school that fall we started a new band, The Fantastic Surfing BEEVERS. The new band featured Max Goldman (who owned the sound system) as "lead singer". Actually his mic was always turned off and it was Tichy who actually sang lead. At that time I had traded my Wurlitzer electric piano in for a classic Farfisa Combo Compact (96 tears). We mounted a surfboard on top of our old hearse, (EQ van) and did our first road gig, (at a Mich. State fraternity in 1965). The highlight of that group was that we discovered a U. of Mich. gymnast named Steve Davis, (a U. of Mich. cheerleader, and the trampoline champ of W.Va.), who played bass.
When I graduated from Mich. that spring ('66) we didn't know if we were going to continue, because I hadn't chosen a grad school yet, (John was going to stay at Mich.). Then the Horace H. Rackham School of Graduate Studies offered me a scholarship to stay, and we decided to start a new band in the fall of 1967, that I named Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen, after the 1950 movie of the same name, starring Kristen Coffen as Kommando Kody (we later did a promo with the guy in LA., for Paramount in 1973).
We had up to 36 members in that band including The Fabulous Tapdancing Green Sisters, The Galactic Twist Queens, Pat the Hippy Strippy and various assortments of honking, blowing and strumming neo radicals who specialized in a form of quasi-social mayhem, including my version of Charles Mingus "Please Don't Drop That A (H) Bomb On Me". The drummer, Ralph Mallory quit in the middle of Tichy's first version of "Family Bible". Steve Davis became the West Virginia Creeper, and began playing steel guitar when he returned from the Peace Corps in Ecuador. Steve Schwartz also played guitar, John Copley played drum (snare) and Billy C. Farlow's brother John wound up playing standup bass. Billy C and the Sunshine was a Detroit blues band that played at Midway Lunch in Ann Arbor, on Wed. nites. After seeing him and playing with him, he joined in the spring of 1968 and we featured him in our "Ripple Wine Time " segment of the show, of which "What's the Matter Now?" is an example we still play today. The band played in the basement of a coffee shop (Mark's Basement), discovered mescaline and dreamt big. Bill Kirchen at that time had his own band called the Seventh Seal. John and I heard them at the 1967 Ann Arbor Film Festival and talked him into joining.
After graduating in the spring of 1968, I took a job as instructor of art at Wisconsin State University in Oshkosh. Tichy went to Georgia Tech. to get his PhD. I went back to Ann Arbor every weekend, which kept the band going, but eventually got me fired. Danny Erlewine took Tichy's place as 2nd guitar and Bill and Billy C shared lead vocals, until Kirchen took of to San Francisco. Through phone calls he told us the time was right in SF, and in June of '68 Creeper, Farlow and me jumped in my van and headed West. Our first gig was with Kirchen's band, (the Ozones) at the Town Pump on Mission St. Later the first Cody gig was playing on Telegraph Ave. in Berkeley, for Cody's Bookstore on July 4, with the Skiffle Bands "Pookie" on drum (snare).That date was one of the famous Berkeley Riots and we all wound up being gassed by the cops, (we grabbed our **** and split). Later that month we all moved into a big house on the Emeryville border, called it Ozone West and started practicing and going out on the street, (Telegraph Ave.) to play, (I played a really bad accordion). Here we met our very first "groupies" the fabulous Richmond Girls, (who were actually from Portland Ore). We got audition dates with Bill Graham in the City, and at Mandrakes in Berkeley.
That summer there were a lot of our old fans from Ann Arbor there, and we packed the joint, thereby getting our first gig. There Barry Olivier discovered us and booked us at the 1968 Berkeley Folk Festival, and we were off and running. We stole bassist Buffalo Bruce Barlow and drummer Lance Dickerson from Charlie Musselwhite, for a killer blues rhythm section. It was here where we met our first stars (musicians who actually made records), Kristofferson, Odetta, Janis Joplin, and the Cleanliness and Godliness Skiffle Group, (headed by Dynamite Annie Johnson and Phil Marsh). They gave us a lot of help and support, and we fit in with, and met all the established Berkeley ACTS, (Sky Blue, Country Joe, and the Joy of Cooking). We jammed, hung out, got high and generally LIVED THE LIFE. Things were great, although we quit living together, - everyone got a girlfriend who had a job, and we enjoyed a couple of years of fun while we were looking for our first record deal. We made a tape at Reggies Guerage Productions, which we sold to Paramount records, and we went off to SF to record with Bob Cohen, (who actually hated C&W).
Hot Rod Lincoln was the second single off that first album (Lost in the Ozone was the first). Somehow it got radio play, (thanks to Dino Barbis, an exec that later went on to WB, and helped us get our second record contract). We bought an old double decker Greyhound bus and fixed it up with 12 bunks and hit the road.
Bobby Black was one of the best pedal Steel players in the world, when we met him playing with his brother Larry, in a San Jose bar called Cowtown. We found out they had a Wed. nite talent contest that paid $100 to each weeks's winner. Bill kirchen went down and won, followed by Andy Stein, (who had moved out from NY to play fiddle), Billy C, and by the time John Tichy won, they had figured us out.
After firing the W .Va. Creeper for being too creepy, we hired Bobby and recorded our second album, Hot Licks, Cold Steel and Trucker's Favorites, in Larry Black's studio in San Mateo. This album bombed horribly, partially because it was recorded on 8 tracks, and was too funky for the execs. The third album "Country Casanova" featured "Smoke that Cigarette", an old Tex Williams swing favorite that cracked the country charts. We were invited to play at the 1973 C&W Convention, in Nashville, and were literally booed off the stage with cries like "Get a Haircut", "find a rock concert", and the term "Commie BUTT****ER" was heard for the first time from the crowd. Of course that year, 1973, we were the headliners at the international communist party festival in Paris, (the "Fete Du Humanitie") so they weren't exactly wrong. On the other hand the Viet Nam veterans came back, mostly Cody fans who heard Hot Rod Lincoln in the foxholes. That year the Indian Movement took control of Alcatraz Island, and Russell Means invited us to visit them there, when Fidel Castro invited us to come and play in Cuba. We didn't of course, but we were protesting this unrighteous war, and wanted to bring everybody home before anybody else got killed.
The fourth Paramount record was the best, and was featured by Rolling Stone Magazine in their best 100 albums of all time. "Live from Deep in the Heart of Texas" was recorded live at the infamous Armadillo World Headquarters, (the coolest club that state has ever seen, then or now), and stands as everybody's favorite. The crowd was so great that Wally Heider, recording in SF, leaked out our crowd noise, to other live albums they recorded, to make other bands sound better.
We signed with Warner Bros in 1974 and put out three albums on that label. The first, (the Purple Dragons album), entitled CCHLPA, featured our version of the classic rocker "Dont Let Go" Our single reached the top 40 on the Billboard chart, before the payola scandal of that year ended that idea. Hoyt Axton produced the second studio album for WB called "Tales From The Ozone", which was not promoted or liked by them. Consequently we opted to finish our commitment to them by recording "Got a Live one Here" which ended CC&HLPA, the original cast, forever. This album featured Norton Buffalo and our best live swing to date. It was recorded at Hammersmith Odeon in London where some Beatles were in attendance, (we were told).
After we returned from Europe in the winter of 1977 we all went in different directions, except for Bobby and Bruce who joined me in the New Commander Cody Band. We signed on to Arista records, and hired Nicolette Larson and the Reno band Sutro Sympathy Orchestra and hit the road again. The tune "Stealin' at the 7-11" was released as a single, (big mistake). The second Arista album "Flying Dreams" really sucked, and put me in a hole that I have been digging myself out of until this very day. The song Lone Ranger was the only highlight of this piece, with Jeff Baxter and Buzzy Fieten on guitars.
Nicolette got discovered and lured away by WB, and that band crumbled. A band with Delaney Bramlett lasted 2 months and one tour in the spring of '78.
Next I hired Bill Kirchens's band the "Moonlighters", and worked with them on and off for eight years, with various big musicians including the excellent steel player, (now Nashville producer), Steve Fishell, saxman Steve Mckay and drummer Tony Johnson. We produced a good R&R album called Lose it Tonite, for a German company, that was released in the states by Peter Pan records. This included the song 2 Triple Cheese, Side Order of Fries, (the only video I ever made, now in NYC's Museum of Modern Art, in the permanent video collection). We also recorded an album for Blind Pig Records, called Lets Rock, that featured the fantastic Austin Delone. (played for Nick Lowe and Elvis Costello). This band broke up after a long European tour in 1986. I was involved in a horrible auto crash at the end of that year and sat out the majority of 1987.
In the Moonlighters era, the backup band went off to London to record a solo album with Nick. During that interlude I used various backup personnel, the most outstanding of which were Glen Sciurba (Tex Burbank) on guitar, Pete Siegel on steel and Doug Kilmer on bass. This was an outrageous time and featured my 3 appearances on the David Letterman Show, until I was 86'd for being drunk.

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pix1
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posted 15 February 2000 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pix1     
ALSO JUST REISSUED IS THE SELF TITLED:
COMMMANDER CODY AND THE LOST PLANET AIRMEN,
WHICH FEATURES ERNIE HAGAR ON THE STEEL GUITAR. CHECK THIS ONE OUT. ERNIE PLAYS SOME SMOKIN' STUFF.
BEST WISHES,
ROBBIE BOSSERT
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Bob Blair
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posted 15 February 2000 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Blair     
Thanks for posting that John. So now we know that West Virginia Creeper was actually one Steve Davis, and that he was fired for, in the Commander's words, being "too creepy"! Does anyone know what ever became of him? Did he keep playing steel?


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posted 16 February 2000 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Weaver     
John...

You triggered another dormant brain cell memory. In the middle of the posting is a reference to Delaney Bromlett. I went to Amazon to see if the Delany and Bonnie and Friends Tour with Eric Clapton CD is available. It is for less than $12 bucks. I know it isn't PSG stuff, but man-o-man am I looking forward to hearing that album again!

("...let's have some red lights cuz this is a red light song....") whew....

David Weaver...

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posted 16 February 2000 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kevin ryan     
John, thanks for your wonderful reply. That was very insightful and entertaining! Being a huge cody fan, i saw them a number of times in LA and around. What a rockin' show! I even saw the re-formed version for arista at the Del Coronado in san diego....remember that gig? Thanks for the memories(did'nt bob hope use that) Its nice to hear Andy Stein every week with prairy home companion on public radio... take care Kevin


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