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randy Member Posts: 702 |
posted 01 March 2000 02:21 PM
On another thread they are discussing Steel Guitar Rag sounding like the old Guitar Rag. Someone else mentioned that My Sweet Lord sounded like something else. Anyway, it made me think of "I Just Destroyed the World..." and how much it sounded like "I love you because" with a different tempo. I guess there are only so many possibilities and I also think those of us who are instrumentalists may notice it more. |
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basilh Member Posts: 3417 |
posted 01 March 2000 02:27 PM
Try comparing "Sweet Soul of Jesus" to 'Makala Pua" aint no difference (I think) Baz |
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Boomer Member Posts: 400 |
posted 01 March 2000 02:51 PM
How about the following: "Vaya Con Dios"-"Cryin' Time"; "A Million and One Tears" - "I Can't Stop Lovin' You"; "You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma" - "Rocky Top" Best, Boomer |
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Boomer Member Posts: 400 |
posted 01 March 2000 03:15 PM
As a script to my last post: the one that is one of the most blaring is the following: "Ace in the Hole" - "My Window Faces the South". I smell lawsuit here. Best Boomer |
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Richard Sinkler Member Posts: 2896 |
posted 01 March 2000 03:36 PM
I've been sitting here singing both "I love You Because" and "I've just Destroyed The World" and I don't see that much of a resemblance, even at different tempos. Chords change at different beats. ------------------ |
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Patrick Smith Member Posts: 747 |
posted 01 March 2000 03:40 PM
"My Sweet Lord" was found to be in copywrite violation of the old tune "He's so fine" by Martha and the Vandellas (I think?). George had to caugh up some bucks when that was all said and done My current favorite is the middle break in Shanana's new tune "Rock this country"...can anyone say "Birthday" off of the Beatle's White album? ....*L* P."the apeman M" S. [This message was edited by Patrick Smith on 01 March 2000 at 03:41 PM.] |
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Marc Friedland Member Posts: 554 |
posted 01 March 2000 06:21 PM
Not that it matters in regard to the original post, but I'm pretty sure that "One Fine Day" was performed by the Chiffons, not Martha & The Vandellas. Sometimes some songs are so alike, if a player is filling in and doesn't know the particular song you're about to play, chances are you can say it's just like (such & such) and if they know that one, they'll know just how the song goes and will probably sound like an expert on it. -- Marc |
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Earnest Bovine Member Posts: 4687 |
posted 01 March 2000 06:35 PM
"You're THe Reason God Made Oklahoma" was a ripoff of "Rocky Top." I think the Bryants sued and won that one. |
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Tim Rowley Member Posts: 957 |
posted 01 March 2000 07:09 PM
How about the Michael Jackson song that was the theme from the movie "Free Willie"? It sounds to me to be almost an exact copy of the tune "Fools" that Jim Ed Brown and Helen Cornelius recorded. I saw Jim Ed back in 1998 and mentioned it to him. He said "I know it, there are certain melodies that just seem to be in the air out there". I guess it wouldn't be the first time that Michael Jackson (inadvertantly or not) borrowed the melody from someone else's song anyway. Seems like the more things change, the more they stay the same. Tim R. |
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Marc Friedland Member Posts: 554 |
posted 01 March 2000 10:25 PM
I made a mistake on my earlier post. As Patrick mentioned, the song was "He's So Fine", not 'One Fine Day" that George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" was so similar to. But I still think it was the Chiffons that recorded that song. Hopefully I won't have to correct one of my mistakes again! - Marc |
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George Rozak Member Posts: 392 |
posted 01 March 2000 10:42 PM
How about "The Wild Side of Life," "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels," "The Great Speckled Bird," & "I'm Thinking Tonight of My Blue Eyes." Learn any one of these and you automatically know four songs. George |
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Bob Hoffnar Member Posts: 4278 |
posted 02 March 2000 12:27 AM
When I was 9 or 10 I though that almost all the songs on the radio were versions of "Louie Louie"(a big hit at summer camp) without the weird 5 chord. Some fast, some slow, some songs played Louie Louie in one spot and then played it again in another. Turns out I was right Bob [This message was edited by Bob Hoffnar on 02 March 2000 at 12:35 AM.] |
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Martin Abend Member Posts: 878 |
posted 02 March 2000 02:23 AM
Something for the younger ones: Nirvana's "Smells like teen spirit" is more or less the same as the "Wild thing"-riff. And another one: Neil Young's "Days that used to be" on the "Ragged Glory"-Album is a clear rip off from another song. Unfortunately I can't remember the title nor the artist. A Radio-DJ played it a few weeks ago and mentioned the similarity. Martin ------------------ |
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ebb Member Posts: 1045 |
posted 02 March 2000 03:27 AM
Irving Berlin said there are only twelve original songs. |
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RickRichtmyer Member Posts: 2522 |
posted 02 March 2000 05:04 AM
Has anyone besides me ever notice a resemblance between "Right or Wrong" and "Anytime (You're Feeling Lonely)?" ------------------ |
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Jim Cohen Member Posts: 8715 |
posted 02 March 2000 05:47 AM
Yes, Anytime and Right or Wrong are very, very similar. They are both based on classic jazz/swing changes. And the melodies are nearly identical. As for "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels," that was deliberately written as a female 'response' to "The Wild Side of Life", so it was intended to be nearly identical in melody. Maybe they can get away with it under the "parody" laws? Here's one we've talked about a few years ago, "Night Life" (Willie Nelson), and "Sportin' Life" (recorded by the Lovin' Spoonful). Still don't know who copied whom on that one, but I'm sure that someone did! Anyone know for sure? |
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Drew Howard Member Posts: 2390 |
posted 02 March 2000 06:04 AM
"Dream" by the Everlys and "Everyday" by Buddy Holly. Both verses are E, C#m, A, B. yessir, |
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randy Member Posts: 702 |
posted 02 March 2000 06:19 AM
Richard, the first time I ever heard "Just Destroyed the world" was on Buddy's "Half Dozen Shuffles" album. I sang along with the sound track (singing "I Love You Because") and it was nearly perfect for most of the song. Maybe it's just me. Again, I don't remember having heard it before that so I had no preconceived notions about "Just Destroyed". So there you go. |
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Billy Johnson Member Posts: 388 |
posted 02 March 2000 07:25 AM
Long Haired Country Boy always reminded me of Bad News. [This message was edited by Billy Johnson on 02 March 2000 at 07:32 AM.] |
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Glenn Suchan Member Posts: 1187 |
posted 02 March 2000 10:40 AM
George Rozak said..."How about "The Wild Side of Life," "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels," "The Great Speckled Bird," & "I'm Thinking Tonight of My Blue Eyes." Learn any one of these and you automatically know four songs." How about standard twelve-bar blues with a I -IV-V (sevenths included) progression? 'Ya learn one o' those babies and your career in "da blooz" is set! Keep on pickin! |
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Steve England Member Posts: 542 |
posted 02 March 2000 11:17 AM
This a a bit of a topic change of thread (so what's new?) but talk about My Sweet Lord and He's So Fine reminded me of When John Fogerty was taken to court by his old record company because on of his new songs (forget which one) sounded like Creedence's "Run Through the Jungle" Fogerty threw a spanner in the works by claiming that he ripped of the riffs to both songs from Bo Diddley. You Go Guy!!! |
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Roy Rosetta Member Posts: 1041 |
posted 02 March 2000 12:59 PM
Here's a couple I bet you've all played many times. How about "Sweet Memories and "Healing Hands Of Time". Pretty close, give a listen. Incidently, Johnny Cox has "Sweet Memories" on his latest album and Robby Turner has "Healing Hands Of Time" on his latest album. Both albums are dyn-o-mite  .....Roy ------------------ |
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wayne yakes md Member Posts: 650 |
posted 02 March 2000 01:22 PM
Don Williams had a song(ballad) that the melody was PRECISLEY the entire Largo movement of the "New World" Symphony by Anton Dvorak. Words were added to the symphonic melody of America("New World"). The title was something(I can't remember exactly)"It will all work out". |
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Donny Hinson Member Posts: 9192 |
posted 02 March 2000 03:15 PM
I can't remember the exact title, or who did the song (I think it was "Touch Me, Turn Me On And Burn Me Down), or something like that. Anyway, it's awfully close to Earnest Tubb's "Thanks A Lot". |
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Janice Brooks Moderator Posts: 2760 |
posted 02 March 2000 04:31 PM
Donny that was Marty Stuart on his Tempted album. ------------------ |
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Boomer Member Posts: 400 |
posted 02 March 2000 05:09 PM
"Burn Me Down" by Marty Stuart was written by Eddie Miller/Don Sessions. They are the same writers on "Thanks a Lot". And while Don Sessions wasn't given original credit on "Burn Me Down", an out-of-court settlement with Johnny Bond's publishing company acknowledged (both financially and literally) Don's involvement with the song. Best, Boomer |
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Dean Dobbins Member Posts: 395 |
posted 02 March 2000 08:16 PM
To George Rozak: If you learn one of those songs, you've more than four. I remember that years ago, Johnny Bond had a duet record with someone, I can't remember who,where they did at least eight or seven (I've been watching too much Justin Wilson) different songs to that tune. The gist of the record was,Johnny would say to the other guy,"Why don't you sing `So & So'", and the guy would sing a verse and chorus, then say "Johnny, why don't you sing `Such & Such'", and then Johnny would sing a verse and chorus of a different song to exactly the same tune. My point being, there was a whole bunch of songs written to that tune. ------------------ |
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Dan Tyack Member Posts: 3552 |
posted 03 March 2000 06:30 AM
Donna Lee and Back Home in Indiana (or any other bebop song set to swing changes). ------------------ |
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Peter Dollard Member Posts: 705 |
posted 03 March 2000 07:10 AM
In the case of "Blue Eyes" A.P. Carter ripped off the traditional sacred song "Great Speckled Bird". "Honky Tonk Angels" was written as a response to "Wild Side Of Life" and the authors were fully aware that it was the same melody.....that's why they wrote it!. This stuff about similar melodies has been going on since the classical composers. Mozart used variations on folk melodies in his music. The point here is composers are trying to write songs that remind one of a familiar melody but don't totally plagiarize it. Pete |
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Dave Van Allen Member Posts: 5369 |
posted 03 March 2000 08:15 AM
Steely Dan -"Ricky Dont Lose that Number" and "Song for my Father" Horace SIlver in this case it's an almost note for note recreation of the intro before going off into Fagan/Becker land... |
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Glenn Suchan Member Posts: 1187 |
posted 03 March 2000 09:52 AM
Ah Wayne, an astute observation! Wayne said..."Don Williams had a song(ballad) that the melody was PRECISLEY the entire Largo movement of the "New World" Symphony by Anton Dvorak. Words were added to the symphonic melody of America("New World"). The title was something(I can't remember exactly)"It will all work out". But Wayne, did you know that the entire Largo movement as well as a re-occuring theme throughout the "New World Symphony" (NWS) was based on an old negro spritual call "Going Home"? It seems the Anton Dvorak was inpired to write the "NWS" after visiting the United States. He was very much impressed by the American Negro (African-American) culture. He also pays homage to the American Indian (Native American) culture through creative variations of the minor key of this piece. Keep on pickin'! |
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Ray Cothren Member Posts: 327 |
posted 03 March 2000 10:32 AM
And then there's the gospel to country crossover by Little David Wilkins. "Butterbeans" = "Just A Closer Walk With Thee". |
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Rich Paton Member Posts: 686 |
posted 03 March 2000 05:00 PM
"Pork Chomp Stomp"? (Grady Martin) = "Fat Boy Rag"? |
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Tim Rowley Member Posts: 957 |
posted 03 March 2000 05:30 PM
Some old tunes from the forties and early fifties that use nearly identical basic chord progression and very similar melodies are "If I Never Get to Heaven", "Somebody's Crying", "I Get the Blues When it Rains", and "The Gypsy and the Tea Leaves". About the only difference between these songs is a slightly different bridge and slightly faster tempo on 2 of them. And wouldn't you know it, about a year ago a fella from Michigan cut a tape of his favorite old songs and all four of these tunes were on the tape! Somebody must like 'em though; last I heard he had sold something like several thousand copies. Maybe he has a lot of friends who either like the 1,6,2,2,5,5,1,5 sound, can't hear the similarities due to tone deafness (or just plain deafness) or don't naturally give a durn. Tedious listening. |
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