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ceebee
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posted 04 March 2000 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ceebee     
Well FOLKS, is OUR magazine DONE FOR? I really hate to see it go DOWN. I wanted to learn to play the Steel Guitar for 30 years, but there was never a teacher or any Instructional Material to be had for the most part. Certainly not in Seattle. I lived in Nashville for a year & no one had the time to show me ZIP... Even some of your heroes didn't have time for a newbie. NOW we have a periodical, that folks can read & learn something from. The advertisers can be reached to purchase their products, now we also have the Internet to obtain information too. If the magazine goes away, you players won't be hurt. But when you're done, that will be it! This instrument is only partially mastered by few, without a musical gift from our creator those few would not be. The other Great ones learned by perseverance & HELP from friends or associate musicians & time. If I had that 30 years back, I too might have been a good player. I will make my monetary contribution to the Steel Guitar World Magazine, won't you join me...if only for the new folks that will take up our beloved instrument tomorrow & the tomorrows after that?????


Joe Minor
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posted 04 March 2000 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Minor     
I think this forum has made steel guitar world magazine obsolete. I also think the the attack on billy copper was a good example of how incompetent russ rask is,I would not send him another dime.


Joe Minor
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posted 04 March 2000 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Minor     
Sorry I spelled Billy Cooper wrong


Bill Sharpe
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posted 04 March 2000 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Sharpe     
Joe:
Sorry to disagree, but Charley B. is correct; if we let this magazine go down the tubes no else will probably want to pick up the pieces. The Forum is terrific, I read it daily, Steel Guitar World Magazine also is a great publication, and I refer to articles and the tab frequently.

Tom Bradshaw had a fine magazine also, and because of the many costs involved had to cease publication.

There are no magazines dedicated to steel guitar currently in issue, and I suspect that it is a cost factor.

Yep, the Billy Cooper aticle was unfortunate, but the retraction, and apology from Russ Rask, was far more than you'll see from any newspaper or magazine and had more lines of print than most.

Personally, I like to have more in-depth information about players and the type of gear, nuances, etc. that can be had from a print publication.

My 2 pesos worth...

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C Dixon
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posted 04 March 2000 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C Dixon     
Joe,

Very respectfully, this is a worldwide forum. What you say can be seen instantly by anyone in the world.

I do hope you will reconsider your thoughts and be more kind towards Rusk Rask.

Words like this can be very detrimental to everybody.

God bless,

carl

[This message was edited by C Dixon on 04 March 2000 at 06:07 PM.]



Heiko Aehle
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posted 05 March 2000 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heiko Aehle     
I love the SGW magazine and appreciate the work Russ did to gave us a magazine for steel players. I think the better way is to collect money to keep the magazine alive.


Mike Perlowin
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posted 05 March 2000 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Perlowin     
Let us not forget that the magazine never turned a profit. Russ has lost money on every issue, and has to work a full time day job in order to keep the magazine going. And he still is working his butt off to keep it alive. Sure he's made mistakes. Who hasn't?

He's put in his time, sweat, and money, to provide us with something useful and needed. He deserves our support.


larry lenhart
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posted 05 March 2000 08:34 AM           
I hope that the one dissenting opinion listed above is in the "minority"-pun intended. I have made a ton of mistakes in my life as well, but I hope I am not condemned forever for them if I have adequately recognized them and apologized/compensated for them. I would miss the magazine if it goes under, but I dont know what more we can do, other than to follow Russ's advice and continue to subscribe, and encourage others to do the same. This topic has gone around before, but I would be willing to give up the slick copy production and go back to the lower quality newspaper print if it would save enough money to save the magazine. I look forward to them and I think Russ's efforts are admireable. I wish I had his determination to make a go of things. I would rather read something- even if it were of inferior quality (paper-wise), than to read nothing. Just my 2 cents worth.


Bobby Lee
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posted 05 March 2000 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
The Forum has not made the magazine obsolete, in my opinion. They are two different mediums, and each has its place. It's hard to beat the Forum for late breaking news and opinions, but we really don't have in-depth articles and interviews here.

Frankly, I think that SGWM is worth the price just for the advertisements. You get to see every manufacturers latest hot item, and their address and phone number is right there. You don't get that on the Forum either.

As a worldwide publication, the magazine is perhaps the most powerful ambassador that our community has. Internet access isn't nearly as common in other parts of the world as it is in the US.

I was sorry to hear about the crushing debt that the magazine has racked up. I think that the best thing we can do to help is to buy up Russ' stock of back issues. If you don't have a complete set by now, you should!. There's a lot of good reading in those back issues.

Unlike subscription money, money from back issue sales work directly to decrease the magazine's debt. Russ has already paid for the printing, and he has a room in his house set aside just to hold them. I'd like to see him empty that room!

As for Mr. Minor's insult, until you've tried to do it yourself, you have no idea what "competence" means. Russ has managed to produce more than 40 issues against all odds. That record speaks for itself, in my opinion.

Moon in Alaska
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posted 05 March 2000 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon in Alaska     
I think Russ has done a wonderful job !! We probably should remind all the new members that all the back issues, which is a real bargain, has a heck of a lot of really good info and a lot of history. If every new member would purchase these back issues, which Russ allready has printed, that would help !! Let's try not to lose our magazine !!!

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Bob Miano
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posted 05 March 2000 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Miano     
I think we all can enjoy a part of SGW magazine. There is something in it for every steel player. I, too, have made mistakes (probably more than my share !)
I don't think it's fair to quit on Russ
and the magazine. A lot of players know of
SGW magazine, but apparently do not subscribe. How about giving him a chance
and take a subscription for a year. That may help him out some, and at least you'll
get a half dozen magazines and you can decide for yourself if this guy is into
steel guitar or what !! I think you'll find
satisfaction in supporting your own instrument. Hey, if we don't, WHO WILL ???
My couple of pennies worth.......
Bob,
Bergenfield,New Jersey


Roy Thomson
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posted 05 March 2000 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Thomson     
I have supported Russ and SGW and will continue to do so but I have a strong feeling that change is in the air. It does not
appear that the current problems are going to disappear.

If Russ had a Steel Guitar Web Site where he could post his articles, commercial adds etc with a membership access fee,that would seem much more appropriate to me. I realize everybody is not on line but that too will change as time passes. During the transition period perhaps provision could be made for printed low cost copies of what is on the Web site to those not on line on a produce / pay on demand basis.
I say these things not really knowing Russ personally or having a true appreciation for the situation so please accept my comments in that context.
Whatever works I would like to see it happen and nobody deserves it more than Russ after all he has done for the Steel Guitar community.

Roy



Stoney Stonecipher
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posted 05 March 2000 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoney Stonecipher     
I have just renewed my subscription for 2 years and I will contribute more if its needed. This is too good a magazine to let it go. I appreciate Russ for what he is doing. You don't realize how hard this is until you have done it. Thanks Russ.


Fred Martin
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posted 05 March 2000 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fred Martin     
I thought Id found a national treasure when I heard about the magazine and was just getting the bug. Plan to have all the issures past and present. Really hope it keeps going.


Bobby Lee
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posted 05 March 2000 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
Here's a link to the Steel Guitar World Magazine web site.


billchav
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posted 05 March 2000 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for billchav     
Hello Everyone;

I am Marshall, and I am Bill Chaviers son. I am NOT a steel Guitarist like my father or Russ Rask or Bobby Lee, but I am a man that believes that Russ Rask has poured his heart and Soul into helping the steel guitar world with his magazine. I believe that so much that I (who is not directly involved in this trade) donated a LOT of time and money to try to make sure that Russ survived this rough time.

I will tell you Mr. Minor that talking out of turn has its own way of coming back to haunt you, You See Mr. Minor lest you forget that it was Mr. Rask's desire to allow free speech that allowed the unfortunate article to be printed. Then without regard to his own pride Russ retracted the article and made public apology. I think that makes him one very honest person trying his best to produce a magazine that will truly benefit all that are interested in the steel guitar.

I applaud Russ for his hard work and I dare anyone to make an attempt to be as successful as Russ is with as little as he had when he started this adventure. So instead of speaking poorly of a person that is trying to help the steelers of this world I suggest that we all band together and help show Russ our gratitude.

Marshall

Danny Hullihen
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posted 06 March 2000 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny Hullihen     
Let us also bear in mind that it wasn't Russ who made the comments about Billy Cooper, but rather, a subscriber. However, the person who made the comments walked free of any retailiation, while Russ paid "the price" for this, both, in being unfairly condemned, as well as a substantial financial punishment. Remember folks, the "Letters To The Editor" that Russ prints in the magazine are the words of those who submitted them. They are NOT Russ's words.


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