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Doug Jones
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posted 31 May 2000 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doug Jones     
Last Saturday I had a lady ask me where the word "Gig" came from. Any ideas or info?


Richard Sinkler
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posted 31 May 2000 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Sinkler     
"God I'm Good"?

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Marty Pollard
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posted 31 May 2000 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Pollard     
Getting stuck in the back with a knife as in, gigging for frogs?


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posted 31 May 2000 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Pollard     
Getting
Inebriated
Girls
?


Richard Sinkler
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posted 31 May 2000 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Sinkler     
Hey Marty. I'll share my Prozac with ya.

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P Gleespen
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posted 01 June 2000 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for P Gleespen     
I think it comes from the word "gigue" which is a piece of lively dance music.
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Gigue, on the other hand probably stems from the word "jig".)


Terry Edwards
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posted 01 June 2000 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Terry Edwards     
Geez I'm Guessing ...at the chords to these songs all night long!

Terry

jim miller
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posted 01 June 2000 06:58 PM           
In 15th century english the term "gig" meant some thing that spins, as in "whirligig".
Subsequent meanings,joke, merriment, and
Dance. Since parties and dances are the
meal ticket early in a musician's career,
the GIG.
Mercy, talk about smart,look at me.
No I'm not.............I asked Jeeves.
Jim Miller I'd Rather Be Steelin'


Joseph Barcus
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posted 01 June 2000 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph Barcus     
here in west virgina its a joke you pull on someone lol just joking


Lee Baucum
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posted 01 June 2000 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lee Baucum     
Marty - Down here we gig flounder. They've got a lot more meat on them.

Lee, from South Texas

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posted 01 June 2000 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hank R     
It is a nationally agreed on employment unit for $75 dollars or less.


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posted 01 June 2000 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Mainwaring     
Acording to my dictionary, gig means 1 "a job, esp.a single booking for jazz or pop musicians to play at a concert or club.
2 the performance itself. (unknown orogin)

I`ve often wondered this myself as a good friend of mine always takes a ride out of my saying "gigs - what the *+%#@ do you mean?"
I always thought about gig as a jig from the old country.

Bob Mainwaring Z.Bs. and other weird things.

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posted 02 June 2000 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrowBear Schmitt     
i would say that 90 % of musical slang has its origin from Black musicians + and that it has been in use since the 20's.
i have a first edition ( and autographed )of
Milton " Mezz " Mezzrow's "Really the Blues "
in which the word Gig appears.At the end of the book is a Glossary of musical slang wherein Gig is mentioned.
In France " Guigue " was a dance as was a Jig in England. I wont say if they are related to Gig. If anyone knows or runs into some old black musicians( hipsters,flycats,
and high jivers) who lived and played in the 30's,ask 'em before they are gone.i remember
when i was 17 in 68,when i thought i was Hip
and this old black cat,who had been a drummer,told me that it had all been layed down before i was born.And man, did he run down a load of terms to me, to prove he was'nt jivin' me. New Orleans is probably the birthplace of musical slang. Mezz's glossary is FULL of these terms,that we Americans,white or black, musicians or not, have been using eversince.
Plant you know + dig you later...


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posted 03 June 2000 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey Fennell     
Copied from the Word-detective.

A Groovy Gig

Dear Evan: Where does the word "gig," meaning a musician's engagement, come from? -- John Guthrie, New York City.

One of the funny things about slang is that while many terms last but a summer's day, figuratively speaking, others just seem to go on and on. "Groovy," for instance,
has had at least three incarnations. First heard as a jazz musicians' term of approval in the 1950's, "groovy" later became perhaps the most widely known, and
parodied, exclamation of the hippie era, but fell into disuse after about 1970. Now it seems that "groovy" has surfaced again in the lingo of youth, which is good news
for those of us who forgot to stop saying it in 1970.

"Gig," on the other hand, has remained in fairly constant use since it first appeared in its slang sense among jazz musicians in the mid-1920's. Meaning, as you say, a
musician's "date" or engagement to play, "gig" is actually both a noun and a verb, though it's more common to hear a musician speak of "playing a gig" than "gigging."
Though a "steady gig" is prized in the notoriously unpredictable life of a musician, the word itself carries overtones of the short-term "one-night stand." Reflecting its
roots in jazz, "gig" is almost exclusively used by jazz, pop or rock musicians -- cellists play recitals or engagements, not "gigs."

Most dictionaries say that the origin of "gig" in this sense is unknown, but it really doesn't seem that great a mystery. Appearing in English in the 15th century, "gig"
meant something that spins, as in "whirligig." Subsequent meanings included "joke," "merriment" and (aha!) "dance." Since playing at parties and dances is every
musician's meal ticket early in their career, it's easy to see how "gig" became generalized to mean any paying job.

FWIW

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posted 03 June 2000 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Johnstone     
On the Weat Coast,it's mutated even further.I've heard more than a few cats refer to a busy playing schedule as "heavy giggage"


Missy James
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posted 03 June 2000 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missy James     
Hey, Smokey - as a classical musician myself, I'd like to resubmit that many of us refer to any job, paying or otherwise, to be a gig, even in the classical realm!!!!! Furthermore, most "gigging" musicians would never refer to a job as an engagement - too close to commitment for us (VERY BIG GRIN)!!!


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posted 04 June 2000 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KodiakJack     
According to the Oxford English Dictionary the origin of "gig" is unknown. But here's the definition:
"An engagement for a musician or musicians playing jazz, dance-music, etc.;

Also "gigster", one who does 'gigs'.

So, hello to all you "gigsters" out there.
KJ


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posted 05 June 2000 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daynawills     
I think I like "God, I'm Good" on a good night and "Geez, I'm Guessin'" on a bad one.

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CrowBear Schmitt
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posted 05 June 2000 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrowBear Schmitt     
I have investigated FURTHUR: In my French Dictionary (Larousse) Gigue is the French word for Jig. Gigue is also a piece of Music.
Maybe there's relation somewhere, but the back in the 16 th century, Satchmo and Buddy Bolden had'nt been to Ireland,Wales, or Brittany. Keep lookin'.........


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posted 09 June 2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrowBear Schmitt     
Mr Gleespen from Boston got it RIGHT.
A piece of lively Musik
it's not just the Dance.It's playin'...


bill graham
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posted 10 June 2000 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bill graham     
"Going Insane Gradually",perhaps.....


Joe Herchel
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posted 10 June 2000 11:38 AM           
Geeeezzzzz....

This post belongs in the Computer Area!

A Gig is one Thousand MegaBytes!

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posted 10 June 2000 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
Actually, it's 1024 megs.


Terry Wood
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posted 10 June 2000 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Terry Wood     
Hi Guys and Dolls,

Down here in Booger Holler, MO and that ain't the same as Butcher Holler, KY. We used to go gigin' for Bull Frogs. The reason bein' was just cause their little legs was good eatin'. Yum, Yum, Grandpa!

If'n you don't believe that just ask Speedy, Keith Infra' Hilton and other Fred Layman, cause they's from here. I do believe those frogs where bout as big as those over in Wright County, but didn't taste any better.
Now, Sam Clemmons (Alias mark Twain) writ bout'em but he sort of twisted that tale around.

Now later in life, when I started pickin' out on the road, and doin' what they call playin' gigs, I was really wondering what the heck these people was a talkin' bout. Did they really know? They kept trying to tell me that we was playin' a gig, and I kept wonderin' how you picked the little forked thing. Well, then they started to talkin' bout crawdads and how they was good to eat. Heck we grabbed them little suckers and used them for fish bait. Ain't that right Keith!

Interesting isn't it, how words come into usage. There's all kinds of languages and their usage, and believe me it's not only with the English language. Regardless, when I go to the gig, I know I'm gonna either be pickin', dancin', singin' or eatin' and they's alright by me.

Terry Wood
Former frog and gee-tar gigger!



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posted 11 June 2000 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dick Nangle     
I may be wrong, but it seems to me that this question was adressed a while back on the forum. While some of the responses on this string have sounded good, none have sounded quite as convincing as one I read on the previous one. Unfortunately I spend my memory banks on pedal changes and slides, so I can't tell you what that answer was. I do remember that it referred to an explanation from Louis Armstrong (thus reinforcing the idea that so many musical terms have come from blacks). Although I don't remember what it was, it rang more true than what I've read here. Maybe someone with more memory, time, or search savvy can help.


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