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Author | Topic: Buddie's Bigsby |
Herb Steiner Member Posts: 6119 |
posted 15 June 2000 12:50 PM
(notice the correct spelling ) Big E ------------------ |
Rick Collins Member Posts: 3286 |
posted 15 June 2000 01:33 PM
Herb, You're right. The spelling of the title of the tune is indeed, 'Buddie's Boogie'. He spells his name on this forum, Buddy. Proper names don't change the "y" to "ie" before adding ('s). I was sure he was the composer of this tune. Was it another Buddy? I'm certain this rule of grammar and punctuation is correct. HELP, |
Herb Steiner Member Posts: 6119 |
posted 15 June 2000 01:40 PM
Rick Not to pre-empt Mr. E, but he's written many times that in that period of his life, he spelled his name "Buddie" because it had the same number of letters as "Emmons" and therefor looked more symmetrical. ------------------ |
Buddy Emmons Member Posts: 1403 |
posted 15 June 2000 02:06 PM
Little H, Starting with the top string, the E9 tuning on that little sucker was E-B-G#-F#-D-B-G#-E. The C6th on the middle neck was E-C-A-G-E-C-A-F. The inside neck was an inverted tuning E-C#-G#-E--A#-F#-D#-F#. The seventh string (D#) was one half tone below the first E string and the eighth (F#) was one tone above. [This message was edited by Buddy Emmons on 15 June 2000 at 04:18 PM.] |
Jim Cohen Member Posts: 8715 |
posted 15 June 2000 03:16 PM
E, I think it's just remarkable that you even remember the tunings on a guitar that long ago! Do you remember all of the tunings you've ever had and used? Do you also have such a remarkable memory for other things, or just for steel-related info? (so, like, how come you forgot my birthday? ) |
Buddy Emmons Member Posts: 1403 |
posted 15 June 2000 04:31 PM
Jim, That particular tuning was easy to remember because it was so unique. It was the tuning that Speedy West used when he played the harmonic and bass combination and slid from a fifth to the root to an octave. I'd like to point out that I have corrected the original post and made the B note a D#; so the tuning reads: E-C#-G#-E-A#-F#-D#-F#. It would take a while to come up with all the tunings I've experimented with or used. As far as memory, it's pretty average. I have the hardest time trying to remember who I've borrowed money from. |
Dana Duplan Member Posts: 615 |
posted 15 June 2000 05:59 PM
Buddy: Didn't you also have a double 8 Bigsby with pedals, and what were your tunings and changes? Was there one tuning that you favored most? What recordings can we listen to to hear these Bigsbys? Thanks much, Dana |
Kenny Yates Member Posts: 321 |
posted 15 June 2000 06:17 PM
Buddy, you borrowed several thousand dollars from me over the last few years. |
Ray Montee Member Posts: 4090 |
posted 15 June 2000 07:42 PM
It's really nice to learn how many truly great steel guitar artists had Bigsby's. I wonder how I managed to end up with my 4x8. It sure wasn't anything to do with my playing ability, I'm confident of that. Altho' I might ask Mr. "E" at this point: Leon Rhodes did ask me to join the Ray Price contingent about a hundert years ago as they played through this area. The two fiddlers were BIG and little "RED". Their steel player had to return to Nashville due to a family member being seriously ill. Per chance, might that have been you that had to head for home from Portland, OR? Probably in the late 60's? I always figured that if I'd accepted this offer to go on the tour, ending up in Nashville, the original steel man would likely be rehired once his family emergency was dealt with. If'n it was you.......that would have been a certainty...so I hung close to home and never again was to be discovered by any Grand Ole Opry talent scouts or other fine musicians like Leon Rhodes. What a joy that would have been. Just curious. And for you other forumites, Mr. "E" has every right to have a GOOD MEMORY still. It's only the much older folks and the Prexy that can legitimately complain that the memory loses its zip as the wick starts to dim. By the way Buddy, I've played my Emmons dbl-10 since I purchased it new in the early 70's and what a fine, trouble-free machine it has proven to be. Thanks for this gift. |
Herb Steiner Member Posts: 6119 |
posted 15 June 2000 11:03 PM
Ya know, looking at that inverted tuning got me thinking and I went back into my files of steel guitar stuff. It seems that's the same tuning that Speedy told me to play for "I'll Never Be Free," when Johnny B recut the tune last year (plug: soon to be released on Johnny's new album ). It is also the tuning, called F#9 or C#minor, that Bobby Bowman says Herb Remington used on the original "Boot Heel Drag." I thought that was far out. Herb told me that both Boot Heel and Remington Ride were cut on C#minor. ------------------ [This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 15 June 2000 at 11:09 PM.] |
Buddy Emmons Member Posts: 1403 |
posted 16 June 2000 05:37 AM
When I ordered my Bigsby I wanted it exactly like Speedy's, so it came with his tunings and a maple panel with a name inlay. The middle neck originally had an E6th tuning. When Slowly came out I called Paul Bigsby and told him to put the Isaacs tuning on the front neck, so I never knew what Speedy's third tuning was. I'll Never Be Free was one of the first songs I learned after getting the guitar. The F# 9th tuning also worked well with Oklahoma Stomp. I never owned a double neck Bigsby although I used Walter Hayne's double ten on Hearts In My Dreams by George Jones. There's a chance that photos of the session may have been taken with me playing Walter's guitar. I used my Bigsby on all the Columbia singles and Seasons Of My Heart by Jimmy Newman. For lack of other names, I'll say that anything between 1955 and late 1957 was cut with the Bigsby. And Ray… I left Ray Price in 1967 and went to California in 1968 so it was probably someone else on his band at the time you're speaking of. Thank you for the compliment on the guitar. I figured by the time this post ran it's course I'd owe at least $337,523.83 to everybody out there. I'm amazed that Kenny was the only one to step forward and ask for his money. [This message was edited by Buddy Emmons on 16 June 2000 at 05:39 AM.] |
Ron Page Member Posts: 4390 |
posted 16 June 2000 01:23 PM
Naught uh, Kenny didn’t ask for his money back. I wrote those bad loans off years ago. Ronnie, Ronny, Ron Page ------------------ [This message was edited by Ron Page on 16 June 2000 at 01:24 PM.] |
Fred Layman Member Posts: 583 |
posted 16 June 2000 05:18 PM
Buddy, the rest of us are just sitting around watching the interest accumulate. |
Kenny Yates Member Posts: 321 |
posted 18 June 2000 11:58 AM
Thanks Buddy, got the check in the mail yesterday.......and I never, for one second thought of you as a deadbeat. Ken |
wayne yakes md Member Posts: 650 |
posted 19 June 2000 11:56 AM
What do you mean? Buddy has ALWAYS been dead on the beat! |
wayne yakes md Member Posts: 650 |
posted 19 June 2000 11:56 AM
What do you mean? Buddy has ALWAYS been dead on the beat! |
Herb Steiner Member Posts: 6119 |
posted 19 June 2000 12:11 PM
I'm going to put F#9 on the top neck of my Bigsby and report back to the forum. I never did try the tuning on "I'll Never Be Free," just played the song on C6th. ------------------ |
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