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Dicky Overby
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posted 21 April 2001 01:00 AM           

PLEASE TELL ME IN YOUR HUMBLE
OPINION WHAT NEW GUITAR PLAYS THE BEST
AND SOUNDS MOST LIKE THE OLD EMMONS!

Dicky Overby

Thanks from way out in

THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY!


Jack Stoner
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posted 21 April 2001 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jack Stoner     
Can't do it. Too many variables and personal opinions.

I could say what I thought and the next one can say what they think, and it will go on and on, as it usually does when this question is asked.

Sorry for the wise a$$ answer but this question always generates many (different) answers.

Jeff Lampert
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posted 21 April 2001 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
Check out this thread.

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/002374.html


Donny Hinson
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posted 21 April 2001 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Donny Hinson     
Well Dicky, most new pro-model guitars play pretty good. But, if you really like the Emmons sound, then get an Emmons and be done with it!


Bobby Boggs
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posted 21 April 2001 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Boggs     
To me the Legrands don't sound as much like the PP's as does the Derby's or the late model JCH.At least mine don't.Check with Sonny Garrish or J.D Maness(sp).Just my 2 cents worth.-------bb


Kenny Davis
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posted 21 April 2001 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenny Davis     
Welcome to the Forum Dicky - Been wondering where you were these days. Who are you playing with, and where?


Jerry Roller
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posted 21 April 2001 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry Roller     
Hi Dicky, I have a LeGrande III with 19,000 ohm single coils and it is very close to the 70's and 80's push pull sound and it plays very nice! Also, the counterforce does work.
Jerry

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Dean Dobbins
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posted 21 April 2001 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dean Dobbins     
Hey,Dicky!
I don't know if you remember me or not,
but if you want something to sound like an
old Emmons, buy an old Emmons!-- Just kiddin'
Hope to see you in Tulsa, this year,
Dino

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Dino


Buddy Emmons
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posted 22 April 2001 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buddy Emmons     
Dicky,
I have a better idea. Why don't you approach the Emmons company with the concept of a Dicky Overby model that would have two holes in the front and back of the cabinet with a release mechanism that would allow you to strip the rods in minutes and convert it to a wagon. You could have four old Buick rings inserted in the axle holes until you were ready for the conversion.
All seriousness aside, in answer to your question, the two Legrandes I have are different in sound due to the pickups, but as close to my two P/Ps sound as any brand I've tried. I'd sell you one of them but they're not yet wagon worthy.
Love ya, and take care.
Buddy


kyle reid
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posted 22 April 2001 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyle reid     
Sounds to me, that he's looking for something other than an Emmons?


Bill Bailey
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posted 22 April 2001 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Bailey     
Welcome back "Big E", and welcom also to Dicky "country cookin" Overby. Love it!
Bill Bailey

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Mike Cass
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posted 23 April 2001 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Cass     
hi Dicky...i too like the sound of the Legrandes..in addition to Buddy's.....Dave Robbins has a Legrande 3 that has a sound very reminiscent of the push-pull...
or... you might try to find an EMCI.. mine with E-66's is quite close to a p/p imho...
btw...was that "Radio Flyer" model a 2 or 4 wheel drive ???..Good to see you on here Dicky.. & you too Buddy..MC

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clive swindell
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posted 23 April 2001 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for clive swindell     
Hi Dicky

The Sho Bud that you were playing the other Saturday in Ernest Tubbs with Justin Trevino sounded perfect to me! Why change?

John Rickard
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posted 23 April 2001 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Rickard     
I agree with the EMCI recomendation (if you want to get into a different brand).
JR

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Ernie Renn
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posted 23 April 2001 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ernie Renn     
Welcome Dicky! It's a pleasure to have you join us. Also, Welcome back, Buddy! You been gone too long!

On your guitar question: My LeGrande III is pretty close to the old Emmons sound.

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Buddy Emmons
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posted 23 April 2001 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buddy Emmons     
I was hoping my message to Dicky would get him to tell the story behind the wagon wheel steel. So for anybody out there that has hated themselves for getting rid of a great guitar, here's an interesting piece of history that Dicky and I both lived to regret:

Years ago, thinking all Emmons guitars should sound the same, I sold the Emmons P/P I used on the Touch My Heart album to Dicky. Later, after he sold the same guitar to someone else, he realized he had made a mistake and went on a mission to track the guitar down and buy it back. His search ended in somebody's driveway where the owner had gutted the guitar, drilled holes in the cabinet, and turned it into a wagon.


Hook Moore
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posted 23 April 2001 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hook Moore     


ScoobyDoo
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posted 23 April 2001 11:36 AM           
MSA's make better wagons.


Mike Cass
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posted 23 April 2001 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Cass     
Aaaauuuuggghhhh!!!
what a terrible fate for the guitar
that"Touched My Heart"......
My condolences to you both...MC


B Bailey Brown
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posted 24 April 2001 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B Bailey Brown     
Dicky!!

What a surprise! I heard you were actually going to get “online” someday, and I am glad to see you finally made it.

To answer your question the best way I know how, I would say talk to Carson Wells up in Kerrville. I would also go along with the “EMCI” suggestion. Although I never owned one, or even played one, their reputation as a fine instrument is well known and seldom disputed. There are still some around in good shape.

Carson bought the extrusions from the defunct EMCI company and builds what I would call a “modern” version of that guitar. He has made some improvements on it, and while not identical, it is about as close as you can get nowadays.

I always loved the Emmons “sound”, but never really cared that much for the guitars. Probably because I was not good enough to duplicate that “tone”. (Sorry, I still haven’t figured out how Buddy’s hands work…other than VERY WELL!) Several years ago I bought a guitar from Carson and I wouldn’t trade it for the world. It is a sweetheart to play and has the rare ability to make even ME sound about halfway good! If you need some contact info for Carson shoot me an email (bbrown@stic.net) and I will be glad to get you what you want. Or, if you would like to get together I will be happy to let you play mine (I think it is set up sorta like yours) and see if you like it.

B. Bailey Brown


Dicky Overby
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posted 24 April 2001 08:15 PM           

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU
WHO TOOK TIME TO SAY HELLO AND GIVE ME
YOUR OPINIONS ON THE GUITARS YOU ARE
PLAYING AND WHY.
I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BACK TO YOU SOONER
BUT I LOST MY INTERNET CONNECTION WHEN THEY
CHANGED LOCATIONS.
A SPECIAL THANKS TO BUDDY EMMONS FOR HIS
TAKING TIME TO SAY HI,ALTHOUGH HE DID
BRING UP ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT EVER
HAPPENED TO ME.NO,HE DID NOT MAKE THIS
STORY UP IT REALLY DID HAPPEN.I CAN'T
IMAGINE THE LOOK I MUST HAVE HAD ON MY
FACE WHEN HE TOLD ME HIS KIDS WERE IN
THE BACK YARD PLAYING WITH THIER NEW
WAGON.
TO ME RAY PRICE HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING
BETTER THAN THE "TOUCH MY HEART ALBUM"
THERE WAS NO UNESSARY CLUTTER ON IT.
THERE WAS JUST BUDDY,TOMMY AND GRADY FOR
BACKUP.WHAT A GREAT SOUND.
WHAT A PRIVELAGE TO HAVE HAD THAT GUITAR.
NO I'M NOT OVER THIS YET!

THANKS AGAIN ALL OF YOU

P.S. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK OUT THE TOPIC:
WHY I DON'T GO TO SEE BUDDY E. LIVE
ANYMORE. IT'S TURNING OUT TO BE A PRETTY
GOOD POST.
THANKS AGAIN,
DICKY OVERBY


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