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Buddy Emmons Member Posts: 1403 |
posted 06 May 2001 09:53 AM
Thanks Frank. I remember that night too, mostly because of the less than earth shattering response to my remark about the jazz steel. I had previously pulled that same line while playing a jazz show for Downbeat magazine and they threw babies in the air. Most of all I remember ending Every Time You Touch Me and looking over at Carl Dixon and seeing him looking back at me as though his teeth were itching. I finally found out why, and after all these years I'll have to agree with Carl. It's the only bad note I've ever played.  |
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Dicky Overby unregistered Posts: 1403 |
posted 06 May 2001 06:08 PM
Hi Frank, Since nobody has mentioned these two A Huge "Big E" Fan, |
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Dicky Overby unregistered Posts: 1403 |
posted 06 May 2001 06:11 PM
Hi Frank, Since nobody has mentioned these two A Huge "Big E" Fan, |
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Dicky Overby unregistered Posts: 1403 |
posted 06 May 2001 06:14 PM
Hi Frank, Since nobody has mentioned these two A Huge "Big E" Fan, |
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Dicky Overby unregistered Posts: 1403 |
posted 06 May 2001 06:19 PM
Hi Frank, Since nobody has mentioned these two A Huge "Big E" Fan, |
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Dicky Overby unregistered Posts: 1403 |
posted 06 May 2001 06:44 PM
HI FRANK, Since nobody has mentioned these two songs I am going to have to do it. I already told everone where I saw Buddy live the first time on the topic "Why I don't go see Buddy E. live anymore", But the first time I heard Buddy play an instrumental on a recording was a Columbia recording of "Flint Hill Special" This was totally amazing to me because this was a banjo song made famous by Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs. Buddy used his pedals to accomplish what Earl Scruggs did by turning his tuning keys with his fingers. And he didn't stop there, he played every note.CLEAN AND FAST! I could not believe somebody could do this on a STEEL GUITAR! I have been an amazed fan ever since. Oh Buddy, remember "Border Serenade"? A Huge "Big E" Fan Dicky Overbey |
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Jim Smith Member Posts: 6399 |
posted 06 May 2001 07:30 PM
Dicky, you can say that again...oh you did!  |
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Mike Weirauch Member Posts: 3528 |
posted 06 May 2001 09:45 PM
quote: FINALLY!!!!! The ONE note in ONE song is revealed. Go scratch your teeth Carl!  |
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Dicky Overby unregistered Posts: 3528 |
posted 07 May 2001 05:30 AM
Hi Frank, The first time I heard Buddy Emmons play Dicky Overbey |
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Dicky Overby unregistered Posts: 3528 |
posted 07 May 2001 05:56 AM
Hi Frank, The first time I heard Buddy Emmons play Dicky Overbey |
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Herb Steiner Member Posts: 6119 |
posted 07 May 2001 06:57 AM
The first time I consciously had my mind blown Buddy was probably the "Night Life" album, so that's about 1963. I do remember driving to school in the San Fernando Valley in 1965 or 66 and "The Other Woman" starts coming out of the radio speaker... wow! Up until then, I'd played dobro and mandolin in bands. It was then I decided I needed to get a pedal guitar. The big one, however... and I know Buddy doesn't remember this... was in 68 or 69. I'd been playing steel professionally for about a year and really couldn't find my ass with both hands tied behind my back, but somehow through my friendship with Larry Murray and Dick Rosmini, I got my first recording session as a steel player. I think it was for Mary McCaslin. Anyway, I was kind of nervous, but was I thought I was doin' okay until Larry, who was producing the date, got on the talk-back and said, "Herb, come on in here for a second" or something like that. Buddy and Peggy were sitting in the control room. That was it, I freaked. I know I said something like "nice to meet you" or some such, but it probably came out like "aaa bbaaaa aaa abbbaaaa." For me, the session was over. I know my solo got left on the cutting room floor, which is just fine with me since I'd die a thousand times each time I heard it nowadays, I'm sure. ------------------ |
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Randy Pettit Member Posts: 323 |
posted 07 May 2001 07:39 AM
First time I heard BE was in 1974 - a short, four-bar ride on an Arlo Guthrie song recorded in +/-1973. I was 13 years old, and had never heard of BE - my steel guitar world at that time was basically Rusty Young (Poco) and Jeff "Skunk" Baxter (Steely Dan). I had no clue about the Nashville studio "heavies" at that time. It wasn't until a few years that I FINALLY got turned on to BE. Funny thing though, I played that Arlo Guthrie tune over and over again just to hear that brief steel ride, not even aware of the greatness of BE. |
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Dicky Overby unregistered Posts: 323 |
posted 07 May 2001 07:43 AM
Hey You Guys, Sorry for all the posts,my computer (which I just recently aquired as everyone can see) kept telling me I had not completed the correct form and to try again.So I DID. hang in there with me I'll get it. I am still better at this than I am adjusting steel guitars ain't I Buddy? :0 Dicky Overbey |
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Ernie Renn Member Posts: 2657 |
posted 09 May 2001 02:10 AM
I see Dicky gets nervious around Buddy, too. ------------------ [This message was edited by Ernie Renn on 09 May 2001 at 02:15 AM.] |
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Neil Flanz Member Posts: 300 |
posted 09 May 2001 02:14 PM
I sure do! While on vacation I was lying on a beach in Santa Monica California and heard "Half A Mind" by Ernest Tubb and my first impression was that Jerry Byrd had gone to pedals.Shortly afterwords I had brought an old Fender 1000 to Nashville for some repair work and David Jackson (Shot's son) kindly called Buddy at his home in Madison and asked if it was o.k. for him to drive me over to meet him.He said "sure" and we spent the entire day together and every year sinse 1958 I would ride a Greyhound to Nashville from Montreal and we would always spend some time together at his house.He once showed me the wood moldings that were to eventually become the Emmons Stereo pedal steel.I can remember one particular night like it was yesterday when Buddy and Day had their steels set up back to back on the top floor of Tootsie's (a real small room on the third level). Buddy would play a new lick he had just come up with and turn to Day and say "Smoke that!" Day would play back the same lick and add a little something to it and say "Smoke that!" This went on for hours. They also played Danny Boy, Greensleeves, and several other tunes which absolutely knocked me out. I have been fortunate to see him play with the Texas Troubadours when Leon Rhodes was in the band, and also with Ray Price.I was in the Ernest Tubb record shop in the front row when Ernest did the intros and the audience applause was recorded for the future "Ernest Tubb Minite Jamboree" album. I have never seen the Everly Bros. shows but I understand that he shines brilliantly as always. Without exception Buddy has always treated me like a good friend throughout the 43 years I have known him and has always gone out of his way to help me every which way that he could. I consider myself to be one of the luckiest people in the world. I wish Buddy and Peggy all the best and sincerely hope that each day will bring better and better things into their lives. For any of you that haven't had a chance to meet him, do yourselves a favour. You'll never meet a nicer human being. |
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Frank Freniere Member Posts: 214 |
posted 14 May 2001 05:11 PM
Emmons-sensei: If you ever return to this thread: I thought that "questionable" note at the end of the song was Phil B. pressing one of those "octavizer" pedals. It was still one of the most remarkable performances I've ever witnessed. Of course, I'm not a professional, just an admittedly worshipful (but critical) listener. BTW, your solo that year on "Gee, Ain't It Funny How Time Slips Away" was an absolut lulu! |
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Frank Estes Member Posts: 2451 |
posted 15 May 2001 08:42 AM
All these are great stories and I think most are enjoying the reminiscing. I hope Buddy is. I like reading these stories because I get to hear what happened years ago before I got into steel guitar. Buddy, thank you for your selfless attitude to help us. I plan to send you a cassette of your 1978 ISGC performance of "You are so beautiful." When you get the chance, you can play it once again for Peggy. Hey folks, as a good friend and fellow steel player pointed out to me the other day, Buddy is the only top pro who is giving away all this advice and posting tab on his site available for FREE! Just another reason that Buddy is the greatest! |
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Bill Nauman Member Posts: 1036 |
posted 15 May 2001 09:30 AM
1967 Antilani Park,outside Allentown Pa with the Ray Price show...new album out then was "Another Bridge to Burn" Price consumed one whole bottle of Seagrams 7 in a milkshake container...I saw him pour it behind the curtain of an outside stage..payed 3 dollars to see the master at work...and at that time didnt know it was Buddy Emmons on steel and was sitting right in front of him ..on the front row...Bill in Vegas |
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Ernie Renn Member Posts: 2657 |
posted 15 May 2001 12:59 PM
Frank; Cool, ain't it... ------------------ |
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Frank Estes Member Posts: 2451 |
posted 15 May 2001 01:43 PM
I almost forgot. Kudos to you, Ernie, for making Buddy's site possible. |
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Walter Haynes Member Posts: 176 |
posted 15 May 2001 08:54 PM
I doubt in our lifetime we'll ever hear a talent as great as Buddy Emmons. He is and has been an inspiration to all of us. I'm proud to call him a friend. God Bless you Buddy!! Walter Haynes |
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Ernie Renn Member Posts: 2657 |
posted 16 May 2001 02:30 AM
I'm really glad you all like it. It's a labor of love for me. I think I have just about as much fun there as everybody else. (which doesn't make much sense, but I do!) ------------------ |
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Gene Jones Member Posts: 5796 |
posted 16 May 2001 04:51 AM
I was still resisting pedals under the self-deluding guise that I was a purist, when I hauled my stuff into the club where I was working one night and "Nightlife" was playing on the juke-box for the first time......I had not been impressed with the commercial pedal work that I had been hearing previously, but that night changed all my previous resistance to pedals. Of course everyone can play Nightlife now, but it was revolutionary then, and that was the first time I realized that pedals in combination with a great player like BE could eliminate the previous limitations of the instrument. www.genejones.com |
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Marc Muller Member Posts: 109 |
posted 16 May 2001 07:57 AM
First time I heard him play was on a John Hartford record "All in the name of love". Ten Chord Blues and Gentle on my mind stand out. Great record. Can't find it on CD though. Has it not been reissued? |
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Allan Thompson Member Posts: 443 |
posted 16 May 2001 03:11 PM
1979 at Wembley UK. heard this great solo on Put Another Log On The Fire then Tom Glasser said ladies and gentlemen Buddy Emmons,i`ll never forget it. Got to meet the great man at The Steel Mill stand afterwards. |
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Jerry Braswell Member Posts: 112 |
posted 21 May 2001 11:11 AM
I have only met Buddy Emmons one time but it was a time I will never forget. I have owned many steel guitars over the years but never have claimed to be a player. For those of you who have lived in Nashville or visited there in the early years you know about the Demons Den. Neil Flanz was playing steel there one night and I had set mine up to try to learn. I was listening to Neil take a steel break in a song and a young man walked up and asked if he might set at my guitar. I looked up to find that it was non other than Mr. Emmons. Me being a big fan of his stood up and moved out of his way. By the way it was an Emmons guitar. He sat down and made the guitar sound like I had never heard it sound before. When he finished playing two or three tunes he looked at me and said that was the worst guitar that he had ever played. I packed it up and the next day took it to Jimmie Crawford and told him to go over it and fix whatever needed to be fixed. That trip costs me over $400.00. Years later I saw Mr. Emmons and told him that story. He smiled and told me he hated that I had spent the money but, he made that comment sometimes when he sat at a guitar with his name on it. I will say I am still an Emmons fan to this day. I also still own an Emmons Guitar. (not that one) |
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Steve Matlock Member Posts: 111 |
posted 21 May 2001 02:52 PM
The first time I heard Emmons live was at a seminar/concert held at the "Sip-N-Nip" club in Hurst, Tx, around the spring of 1982. It was a combo deal with Scotty. I was just getting into steel and had seen a poster advertising the event at Steve Lambs music store over in White Settlement (near Ft. Worth). Did'nt know very much about him at the time, but decided to drive up from Stephenville, Tx, where I was going to college to see the show. I was blown away by the whole deal. I have been hooked ever since. Buddy was quite "happy" during the show and it was quite entertaining. What a great show. That was also the first time I heard Gary Hogue. He was in the opening band (I think it was the Moonshine Brothers Band). That was a great group. Wayne Bennett was on drums and they had a bass player (Reggie Brown?) that could really sing the Price tunes. The whole show was quite an eye opener for me. I had no idea a steel guitar could sound like that or that there was even a steel guitar "community" that existed. I still dig out my old tapes of that show and listen to them sometimes (even though they are very poor quality). Wish I had a better set of tapes from that show. Thanks Buddy for all the inspiration you gave me and countless others! Great stuff! Steve |
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Steve Matlock Member Posts: 111 |
posted 21 May 2001 02:55 PM
The first time I heard Emmons live was at a seminar/concert held at the "Sip-N-Nip" club in Hurst, Tx, around the spring of 1982. It was a combo deal with Scotty. I was just getting into steel and had seen a poster advertising the event at Steve Lambs music store over in White Settlement (near Ft. Worth). Did'nt know very much about him at the time, but decided to drive up from Stephenville, Tx, where I was going to college to see the show. I was blown away by the whole deal. I have been hooked ever since. Buddy was quite "happy" during the show and it was quite entertaining. What a great show. That was also the first time I heard Gary Hogue. He was in the opening band (I think it was the Moonshine Brothers Band). That was a great group. Wayne Bennett was on drums and they had a bass player (Reggie Brown?) that could really sing the Price tunes. The whole show was quite an eye opener for me. I had no idea a steel guitar could sound like that or that there was even a steel guitar "community" that existed. I still dig out my old tapes of that show and listen to them sometimes (even though they are very poor quality). Wish I had a better set of tapes from that show. Thanks Buddy for all the inspiration you gave me and countless others! Great stuff! Steve |
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Steve Matlock Member Posts: 111 |
posted 21 May 2001 02:59 PM
The first time I heard Emmons live was at a seminar/concert held at the "Sip-N-Nip" club in Hurst, Tx, around the spring of 1982. It was a combo deal with Scotty. I was just getting into steel and had seen a poster advertising the event at Steve Lambs music store over in White Settlement (near Ft. Worth). Did'nt know very much about him at the time, but decided to drive up from Stephenville, Tx, where I was going to college to see the show. I was blown away by the whole deal. I have been hooked ever since. Buddy was quite "happy" during the show and it was quite entertaining. What a great show. That was also the first time I heard Gary Hogue. He was in the opening band (I think it was the Moonshine Brothers Band). That was a great group. Wayne Bennett was on drums and they had a bass player (Reggie Brown?) that could really sing the Price tunes. The whole show was quite an eye opener for me. I had no idea a steel guitar could sound like that or that there was even a steel guitar "community" that existed. I still dig out my old tapes of that show and listen to them sometimes (even though they are very poor quality). Wish I had a better set of tapes from that show. Thanks Buddy for all the inspiration you gave me and countless others! Great stuff! Steve |
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Al Marcus Member Posts: 7471 |
posted 21 May 2001 10:44 PM
I guess like Donny, My first time I heard Buddy Emmons and knew it was in 1963 when I was teaching guitar in Santa Rosa, Ca. I was playing Alvino Rey stuff with a big band and the arranger said , "Hey Al, you ought to hear this steel guitar player's LP "Steel Guitar Jazz". So I ordered the LP from the Store and the cover just about turned me off, I was familiar with Multi-Kords and I figured they put that on the cover for one big joke. I knew he wasn't playing that thing. Although I Imagine, He could have done it! I used to play some of the songs that were on the album, back a few year before, "where or when" ,"Witchcraft", etc. I took that album home and played it just once, and put it away and didn't play it again for a long long time. I knew that he was the Master and the NO. 1 player at that point in time. No question about it. A Great Natural Talent! I was glad then that I was teaching music for a living instead of playing music for a living......al |
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randy Member Posts: 702 |
posted 22 May 2001 07:29 AM
The first time I really knew what he did for the instrument was when I was talking to a friend about Jimmy Days version of "I Love You So Much", (classic, one-of-a-kind), and he pulls out a CD and says, "wait til you hear this". I hope I was able to hide my emotions a little from you Mike but I'll never be able to express the impact of that incident on motivating me to get serious about the steel. |
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John Lacey Member Posts: 1843 |
posted 22 May 2001 08:08 AM
Mark, I heard Gentle on my Mind from that album as I was driving around Vancouver in the late 80's and the guy on the radio (it was a bluegrass show) was pumping up the mandolinist's solo (Sam Bush). Rightly so, then Emmons played the whole ride on a C6th. jazz-type approach and I just about drove off a bridge! I immediately went out and bought the album and still can't figure that solo out. Hope it's out on CD, especially with the state of John's health. |
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Roger Rettig Member Posts: 2979 |
posted 22 May 2001 07:16 PM
In the early seventies, I was playing Telecaster in a country band (back in the UK) and had JUST acquired my first steel (a ZB Student) and had been persauded by the guys in the band to bring it on the gig. You can guess what's coming, I suppose.... Bob Powell, a friend of mine who edited the "Country Music People" magazine, called me out into the 'house' in the break and said he wanted to introduce me to someone. There stood Buddy Emmons (on tour at the time playing bass with Roger Miller) who was probably just recovering from the effects of my stumbling ineptitude on my new guitar (it had only been two weeks since I'd bought it); he may have heard worse in his time but I frankly doubt it! Despite this, he was graciousness itself and offered his encouragement. I muttered some inanities about the work he'd just done on the Ray Charles album ("Volcanic Action of my Soul") and he told me about his experience recording for Henry Mancini and his momentary qualms at being unable to read the charts he'd been presented with..... Buddy, no doubt, forgot our encounter five minutes later and I've never forgotten it. This was the "Nashville Rooms" in London and the last place I expected to meet an American musician, let alone this particular one!!! Needless to say, when I returned ashen-faced to the stage I reached for the Telecaster and clung to it for dear life - much to the amusement of my fellow musicians. It says a great deal for Buddy's qualities as a human being that so many of us have been touched by him as evidenced by so many of these stories. In 1988, I was lucky enough to share a stage with him at London's "Borderline" - I stuck to the Tele on that occasion, too...... Thanks for the endless inspiration, Buddy. Roger Rettig |
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Roger Rettig Member Posts: 2979 |
posted 22 May 2001 07:17 PM
In the early seventies, I was playing Telecaster in a country band (back in the UK) and had JUST acquired my first steel (a ZB Student) and had been persuaded by the guys in the band to bring it on the gig. You can guess what's coming, I suppose.... Bob Powell, a friend of mine who edited the "Country Music People" magazine, called me out into the 'house' in the break and said he wanted to introduce me to someone. There stood Buddy Emmons (on tour at the time playing bass with Roger Miller) who was probably just recovering from the effects of my stumbling ineptitude on my new guitar (it had only been two weeks since I'd bought it); he may have heard worse in his time but I frankly doubt it! Despite this, he was graciousness itself and offered his encouragement. I muttered some inanities about the work he'd just done on the Ray Charles album ("Volcanic Action of my Soul") and he told me about his experience recording for Henry Mancini and his momentary qualms at being unable to read the charts he'd been presented with..... Buddy, no doubt, forgot our encounter five minutes later and I've never forgotten it. This was the "Nashville Rooms" in London and the last place I expected to meet an American musician, let alone this particular one!!! Needless to say, when I returned ashen-faced to the stage I reached for the Telecaster and clung to it for dear life - much to the amusement of my fellow musicians. It says a great deal for Buddy's qualities as a human being that so many of us have been touched by him as evidenced by so many of these stories. In 1988, I was lucky enough to share a stage with him at London's "Borderline" - I stuck to the Tele on that occasion, too...... Thanks for the endless inspiration, Buddy. Roger Rettig |
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Ernie Renn Member Posts: 2657 |
posted 23 May 2001 09:26 PM
John; Dan Tyack knows, (or at least did know,) the "Gentle on my Mind" solo. I've been trying to talk him into tabbing it for a couple of years. Maybe you can try I've asked Buddy to tab it, too. One of the best C6 solos I've ever heard. I don't know if it's out on CD. Probably not. Figure, eh? (See I can speak Canadian, too, eh?) ------------------ |
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