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Mike Ihde Member Posts: 481 |
posted 03 April 2000 09:45 PM
I have assembled all my fake books and Real Books containing almost 2,000 tunes from Jazz to Pop to Country. They fit onto 2 floppys or one Zip disc. If you want the ultimate music minus one program , this is it . It's the best way to improve your chops by having a full band to practice with ANYTIME you want it, in ANY tempo and ANY key and they'll play each tune for as long as you want them to. Just mail the discs to me (PC or Mac format) plus $20 and I'll send them to you. Mike Ihde, box 446, Berklee College of Music, 1140 Boylston St. Boston MA 02215 |
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Al Marcus Member Posts: 7471 |
posted 04 April 2000 09:28 PM
This is a great service that Mike is offering to all of us Forum Members. I want to extend my personal appreciation and thanks to you, Mike....THANKS....al |
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Ben Jack Member Posts: 393 |
posted 05 April 2000 08:32 AM
DITTO!!!!!!!!! |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 05 April 2000 08:38 AM
My order was in the mail 10 minutes after I read the post. Thanks, Mike! |
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Ad Kersten Member Posts: 208 |
posted 08 April 2000 04:56 AM
Mike, What kind of files are these? Is uppose they are .mid files and I can just use any midi sequencer. Am I right or do I need any specific programme for playing these songs? Ad |
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Bob Kagy Member Posts: 872 |
posted 08 April 2000 10:58 AM
Mike, many thanks for this great offer. My check and floppies are in the mail. Ad: It's my understanding that these files are used with the software program Band In a Box. Regards, Bob |
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Roy Thomson Member Posts: 2308 |
posted 08 April 2000 04:08 PM
I am in on this one also. Amazing offer. Just think all those songs with chords, melody lines at your finger tips. It will be a great incentive for me to start using BIAB. Roy T. |
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Rich Paton Member Posts: 686 |
posted 08 April 2000 05:21 PM
Ad, I havent used the latest version of BIAB, but have used it since the first windows version was released. The scope of what you can do musically with BIAB is limited only by your imagination and willingness to explore the fine details in the help files and tutorials. There are many on-line groups involved in it and user forums as well. PG Music's support and ongoing development/improvement is very impressive. Post a question on their website forum, and you have a 50/50 chance it will be answered by the President, Peter Gannon (also a heck of a great Jazz Guitarist). The latest version (I have 7.0g for whindoze) may directly access .mid files, but otherwise it takes only a click to convert a "bb" file to a .mid file I'll get my order going too. Mike I, if the files are only <,= 2.88 Mbyte, could you send them as several zip archives as e-mail attachments, when you receive the $$ ? BTW, I recommend highly Voyetra's "Recording Station", the best and easiest to use simple Voyetra/Turtle Beach http://www.voyetra-turtle-beach.com/site/products/rs/ [This message was edited by Rich Paton on 08 April 2000 at 05:35 PM.] |
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Joe McHam Member Posts: 359 |
posted 08 April 2000 10:43 PM
Count me in ! Check and ZIP in the mail.. Thanks!! Very nice indeed! [This message was edited by Joe McHam on 08 April 2000 at 10:46 PM.] |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 09 April 2000 01:56 AM
quote:In 1991 I did a "computer music" album that exceeded BIAB's capabilities by a long shot. I have BIAB and I do use it regularly, but I consider it to be a very limited tool. I have yet to find a commercial computer program that can capture any depth of musical thought. I had to write my own programs for my album, "The Technical Academy Plays -b0b-". |
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Don Sulesky Member Posts: 1126 |
posted 09 April 2000 06:20 AM
BIAB latest version is #9 and I wouldn't be without it. I use it for learning songs from years past by putting the notes in one at a time as I am not a keyboard player then do up my rendition on steel from the melody and chord lines. I'm going to send in for my copy of your files. You can never have enough info and tracks on hand to chose from for backup. Thanks for the offer Mike. Don |
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Donny Hinson Member Posts: 9192 |
posted 09 April 2000 06:43 AM
Do these BIAB things sound like a real backup band, or do they sound like the typical "midi" stuff that's available on the net? Most of this stuff that I've heard leaves a lot to be desired (remember Farfisa?) |
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John Lacey Member Posts: 1843 |
posted 09 April 2000 07:55 AM
Donny, they can sound terribly good or terribly bad depending on how you tweak them and of course you're sound module. Some of the old country ones they had really sucked, too much "stripper" drum rolls etc. One has to enter the "Edit style" menu and pull out the extraneous stuff. Once you've done that the style will be what you want of it, simple or complicated. Jim Baron has some great tweaks on some country styles, also BIAB has a new country style disk for $29. that is quite modern and good. This is a very ambitious company and responds to it's customers. Lots of bang for the buck, I feel. And by the way, Peter Gannon is a pianist, his brother Oliver, is the guitarist. They're both Canadian! |
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Terry Edwards Member Posts: 1084 |
posted 09 April 2000 08:23 AM
I have used Band-in-a-box for years and it can be a very good tool for what we are talking about here. Most sound cards or modules have an acceptable piano, drum, and bass sound. So if you have an inexpensive sound card, you can mute some of the cheap sounding instruments (guitar on mine sounds terrible) and just play along with piano, drum, and bass. Also, don't forget to change the style of a song from, say, country to jazz or rock to country. Same song different feel. It's alot of fun!! Band-in-a-box is a tremendous bang for the buck and a good songwiting tool too! ------------------ |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 09 April 2000 09:52 AM
The output is MIDI, so the sound quality is as good or as bad as the MIDI synth in your computer. When I want serious tones from my computer, I run it into an old Roland U-110 synth I've had for about 10 years. Most computers weren't designed to be played by musicians. |
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Don McClellan Member Posts: 882 |
posted 09 April 2000 10:19 AM
Will the "100 zip disk" do or does it need to be the 250 (?) |
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Rich Paton Member Posts: 686 |
posted 09 April 2000 11:12 AM
b0b, we mere mortals.... Of course it IS limited, but not as limited as my ability to exceed its limitations. |
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Mike Ihde Member Posts: 481 |
posted 09 April 2000 02:14 PM
Don, A 100 MB zip disc is more than enough. Two floppys will also work. |
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John Swain Member Posts: 226 |
posted 09 April 2000 05:53 PM
Mike,as I told you,I got your zipdisk the other day.For all you who seem do be having problems....Igot my returned zip from Mike.Had about 3.8 mb of BiaB files grouped into 4 folders enclosed in 1 folder.I simply dragged whole folder from zip into BiaB folder in Windows explorer..Then after runnuing BiaB program used open key to open new folder and run 1 song. then used cntrl-f6 to generate new song list.....I did seem to have some errors but restarting Biab seemed to fix them.....I'm no computer whiz,but if you have problems I'll try to help...Thanks again Mike |
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Mike Ihde Member Posts: 481 |
posted 12 April 2000 08:14 PM
Thanks to all of you who sent me floppys and zips. I hope you enjoy the tunes. Let me know if it all worked out OK. This is the first time I tried doing "Cross Platform" stuff. |
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b0b Sysop Posts: 8084 |
posted 12 April 2000 09:09 PM
Rich, I'm afraid that The Technical Academy's music is way off topic for the Steel Guitar Forum. Besides, I don't want to blow my image as a traditionalist.  |
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Mike Ihde Member Posts: 481 |
posted 16 April 2000 05:47 PM
Just heard from someone that I recently mailed the BIAB files to. I messed up and sent out 6 or 7 blank disks. Imixed up 2 batches, one done and one blank and mailed the blank instead of the done. Sorry, must have killed a few too many brain cells in the old days . I know it's a pain in the butt, but, please send them back and I'll do it right this time and send them right back. My address again is...Mike Ihde box 446, Berklee College, 1140 Boylston St., Boston Ma, 02215 |
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Al Marcus Member Posts: 7471 |
posted 16 April 2000 06:56 PM
Hi Mike, My Zip seemed to load allright, but it won't run or open. It says not right file to open...Maybe someone out there can tell me how to get this program to run for me, I tried "quick Time", Real Player, Win Zip, etc. no luck....Thanks...al |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 16 April 2000 10:12 PM
You have to use Band-In-A-Box to play these files, Al. |
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Bill Llewellyn Member Posts: 1882 |
posted 17 April 2000 12:58 PM
Mike, If these files are straighforward (simple) enough, might you consider also generating general MIDI (.mid) versions of them and making them available, as well? I don't have BIAB, but I do have some very good MIDI software (and outboard sound modules) for my Mac with which I can use general midi files (and tweak from there). My Mac will also play .mid files using just its internal sounds. |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 21 April 2000 08:01 AM
I think that this library would be much less useful as MIDI files. The BIAB files allow you to change the key, change the number of repetitions, even change the style of the song. It looks to me like they use the basic BIAB styles, but if you've bought some of the advanced styles disks you can make them sound much better. Someone sent me an email that expressed concern about the legality of these files. These are really just chord progressions - no melodies are included. As such, there is no copyright problem. They are simply chord charts that, when played by BIAB, produce backup music for learning specific songs. It's up to the student to find the sheet music, recording or other source to learn the melody. By the way, I've received my copy and have been enjoying browsing through it. Thanks, Mike! ------------------ |
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dblnk unregistered Posts: 14849 |
posted 24 April 2000 03:01 PM
I sent off for mine, today. Wow, would I have given anything for something like this stuff 30 yrs ago. Mike, you're to be commended for doing something like this. ------------------ |
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Mike Ihde Member Posts: 481 |
posted 16 July 2000 12:08 PM
Bump......for those who haven't seen this before |
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Al Marcus Member Posts: 7471 |
posted 17 July 2000 12:30 PM
Mike, my copies were all on one Zip Disc. When I loaded it in, it took disc #1 bib '71 and then ask for #2 bib '72 and I did not have the 2nd disc, so it aborted and won't play. Bob, I had the Biab demo working, but it had expired. It is just not working for me.I guess I'll have to get the usable Biab from PG Music.....al Maybe some computer expert can figure this out for me. OK?........al. |
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Steelruss unregistered Posts: 7471 |
posted 17 July 2000 11:18 PM
Al, If you like to 'keep it in the family', ya can get Band In A Box from Big Jim Baron. He not only is a BIAB vendor, but also is a steel player and 'computor-guru' as well. He is also great at 'tech support' after the sale and has helped me several times with various midi-gear advice by email. You can reach him at bigjim4b@madnet.net Russ |
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Mike Ihde Member Posts: 481 |
posted 05 August 2000 10:01 AM
Bump |
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Chas Holman Member Posts: 188 |
posted 06 August 2000 03:04 PM
Hey Gurus..!, Any ideas on a "good" ..er... hopefully, inexpensive way to get going on this BIAB thing..? I'm not curently set up for ANY "music" on any of my PC's so, I'm assuming that I'll need some form of sound card and speakers (mfg., type, etc..??). Also, I have a few old 486's that I could config for this purpose, does the processor need to be P-1 or better..? Is a particular type of monitor (VGA, SVGA, etc.) a requirement for this kind of thing..? Any help would be appreciated, -Chas ------------------ |
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Chas Holman Member Posts: 188 |
posted 06 August 2000 04:33 PM
Woops...! I apologize for that last "post / question", and I have moved it to the Computer arena. (Thanks to Jon Light for so kindly pointing out my error) So SORRY...!! Ms. Lori, I won't do that again..! -Chas ------------------ |
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Mike Ihde Member Posts: 481 |
posted 20 September 2000 03:11 PM
bump |
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Al Marcus Member Posts: 7471 |
posted 20 September 2000 08:16 PM
Mike- I will send TWO floppies to you, so when it asked for the 2nd disc, I will have it.OK? It would not work with the one Zip disc. Maybe all the files did not get loaded on my Zip? Thanks again.....al |
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Bob Hempker Member Posts: 742 |
posted 22 September 2000 07:34 AM
Mike, do you have these in a Mac format? I'm wanting to purchase them as a gift for a friend who has a Mac. ------------------ |
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Jerry Gleason Member Posts: 539 |
posted 22 September 2000 10:03 AM
Band-in-a-box files are "unisex", they will work either on a Mac or a pc. I have, however, encountered a situation on the Mac where the program wouldn't find the files if the file names were in lower case, for some reason. Changing the file names to all caps solved the problem, but it was a hassle. Maybe version 9 will solve this glitch when it becomes available for the Mac, but for now it's still a problem. |
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BUDDY BARROWCLIFF Member Posts: 45 |
posted 22 September 2000 01:17 PM
Hi Mike Was just wondering if you had an index of the titles of your tunes that you could email any of us that may be interested with point being I too have been using BIAB fo years and consequently collected quite a substantial library myself and tho your price isn't all that high would not need to duplicate what I already have. I even have quite a number of different versions of the same song as I am sure you do also. Some are pretty good especially some of the bigband standards and some aren't worth the space they take up but then thats the nice part about biab, you can tweak out what you don't like and play the rest. Thanks for your time and hopefully your library is different enough from mine that I can still order yours. Buddy PS Bobby if you happen to read this, have you ever tried the rolland U220. Its the next version after the one you have albiet with out the lasynth part, all sampled. Can be had on the net for peanuts anymore. Makes great sound module for this type aplication for those that don't have anything. |
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Mike Ihde Member Posts: 481 |
posted 19 January 2001 11:04 PM
Bump |
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Jeff Hogsten Member Posts: 556 |
posted 20 January 2001 08:48 PM
if anyone is looking for a good sound source try gigasampler it is a program for your computer. I just got it last week I have been using a kurzweil sampler in my project studio( korg digital board, 16 tracks of adat mixing down to sound forge with rode nt2 octava and alesis mikes) and it blows it away. Any kind of cheap controller will do It takes a pretty heavty computer with a 7200 hard drive and about 256meg of ram but that is going for about $100 on ebay and a hard drive for about the same so it is going to be less than even a mid priced keyboard.The sounds arent looped and are 24 bit the piano sound has everynote sampled and at 8 different volumes incredable you can hear the wood in the upright bass can you put midi files into biab or do you have to use what they have I hear Doug Journigan just did a record with one has anyone heard that or is it just a rumor Jeff ------------------ |
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