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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 03 October 1999 11:26 PM
Sho-Bud Crossover D-10, 6 pedals, 1 knee lever (RKL). Blond maple finish. It's set up to E9 and C6, and the crossover mechanism switches the pedals and lever from one neck to the other. All original parts, never modified. I don't think this guitar was ever gigged much, because both the guitar and case are in really good shape. It's a classic. Price: US$900 ------------------ [This message was edited by b0b on 10-03-99] |
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lakeshrk Member Posts: 127 |
posted 04 October 1999 03:36 AM
This sounds to cheap,are you knew to the forum. ls |
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Jim Cohen Member Posts: 8715 |
posted 04 October 1999 06:06 AM
So, what does the one KL do on the E9? Raise or lower Es? How well does the crossover mechanism actually work? Do the changes stay in tune on both necks simultaneously? Got a photo you can post? |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 04 October 1999 08:42 AM
Yes, the crossover mechanism works fine. The key thing to remember is not to have any pedals engaged when you throw the lever, else you'll "pop the clutch". The changes stay in tune, but there's some noticable string hysteresis on the low strings of the C6th. I think if I were going to continue using it, I'd remove the lowers from those changes. The knee lever lowers strings 2 and 8 on the E9th, and string 3 on the C6th. It's very easy to switch the changes around on this guitar, because there are no bell cranks to move. Just loosen the set screw on the collar, pull the rod out, put it back into a different changer hole, then attach the collar and tune it up. The changer is single raise, single lower, so if you need two raises on a string they have to share a rod. This is the same model that Michael Douchette uses. It looks just like the picture on his web page at www.b0b.com/tunings/douchet.htm . ------------------ [This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 10-04-99] |
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Al Marcus Member Posts: 7471 |
posted 04 October 1999 11:08 AM
Hi Bobby, I had one of those crossovers back in the 70's .I played quite a few weekends with it. It's all anyone really needs when you get down to the basics, It's heavy but aren't they all? Listen to Jeff Newman's "music to steel by" he used only one knee lever the Eb's. About the changes, I Liked one thing about those old shobuds, you can put put more than one raise or lower on a rod, as Bob, says. No real limitations like on the usual double or triple changers..A good guitar ahead of it's time..al |
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Dave Zirbel Member Posts: 1646 |
posted 04 October 1999 03:38 PM
Trade for a Vibrasonic Custom? |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 04 October 1999 04:49 PM
Nice try, Dave!  Sorry, I don't need another amp.[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 10-04-99] |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 04 October 1999 09:41 PM
These pictures were warped a little bit by Porter's sheet-feed scanner, but they do give you an idea of what the guitar looks like. 
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Dan Tyack Member Posts: 3552 |
posted 05 October 1999 10:16 PM
Nice looking guitar, b0b! (dig that wood panelling, too!) ------------------ |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 06 October 1999 12:15 AM
That's actually a carpet, Dan. The day I walked into Porter's rumpus room, I knew that he was born to steel. The man has a rug that looks like wood paneling - what could be more perfect!
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road runner unregistered Posts: 14849 |
posted 06 October 1999 07:09 AM
BOBBY,I Had a BALDWIN Just like it,same color and all. i bought it new,in 1969.very nice.i kept it for a while, then traded it in for a pro.1. |
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Jim Smith Member Posts: 6399 |
posted 06 October 1999 08:06 AM
I also had a Baldwin the same color as yours for my first double neck. I modified it by adding three knee levers and hooking them up to the last three pedal linkages. I ended up with 3 pedals and 4 knee levers working the E9 neck and 4 pedals and 3 knee levers working the C6 neck. This was in Maine in the early 70s. If anyone knows where this guitar is now I'd be interested to know. ------------------
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Jon Light Member Posts: 6528 |
posted 06 October 1999 01:21 PM
Is this the guitar you picked up in St. Louis in '98, Bob? If so, didn't you just beat someone out for it? I vaguely and maybe wrongly seem to recall Tommy White being interested. Do you recall? (Or was it someone else or a different guitar or never mind I'll just go away now.... |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 06 October 1999 01:32 PM
Yes, this is the same guitar. I haven't talked to Tommy White about it recently, but I assume if he's still interested he'll answer this ad. |
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Steven Feldman unregistered Posts: 14849 |
posted 06 October 1999 06:33 PM
What I want to know is where can I get one of those KEWL pac-a-seats????? SF |
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Porter Fawcett Member Posts: 613 |
posted 06 October 1999 09:50 PM
Steven, I will answer for b0b. I got that at Office Depot, it is a Rock & Roll Seat. ------------------ |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 07 October 1999 10:26 AM
By the way, I'll pay the shipping in North America, or up to US$100 elsewhere. ------------------ |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 08 October 1999 08:17 AM
Mike Fried has a similar guitar that he talked about on this page: /tunings/mdfried.htm. [This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 10-08-99] |
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David Mullis Member Posts: 1413 |
posted 08 October 1999 08:30 AM
WOW purty slab o' wood there Bob. Too bad I'm Sho~Bud poor right now or I'd have to take 'er off your hands! |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 10 October 1999 10:46 AM
Bouncing this back to the top. It's still sitting in my living room, gathering "oohs" and "ahhs" from visitors. Lots of interest but no sale yet.------------------ |
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Fred Layman Member Posts: 583 |
posted 10 October 1999 02:05 PM
I was in Scotty's room when b0b and Ronnie Hiatt were looking this guitar over for purchase for Porter. Its a real creampuff at a good price. |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 12 October 1999 08:33 AM
Make offer? |
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Tommy White Member Posts: 869 |
posted 12 October 1999 09:06 PM
bOb, Yes,I would like to purchase the crossover,but I must sell my Emmons push-pull first.So,if it is still available after the sell of my Emmons, consider the Sho-Bud sold. T.W. |
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Mac Lloyd Member Posts: 1566 |
posted 14 October 1999 12:29 AM
How tough would it be to add a couple more knee levers to it. What do you think, maybe you got it covered below? |
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Mac Lloyd Member Posts: 1566 |
posted 14 October 1999 12:32 AM
How tough would it be to add a couple more knee levers to it. What do you think, maybe you got it covered below? |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 14 October 1999 08:32 AM
LKL would be pretty easy because there's plenty of room at that end. Others would be rough in my opinion, because things are sort of cramped under there with the crossover linkage and all. |
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Herb Steiner Member Posts: 6119 |
posted 14 October 1999 08:54 AM
As I recall, Mike Cass added two extra knee levers to a Crossover recently, both on E9, and unable to work on both necks. |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 14 October 1999 01:26 PM
There might be room for a RKR (it would be tight), but I can't see any place for a LKR. So yes, I suppose 3 would be max. |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 15 October 1999 10:22 PM
I've had a few inquiries, but this guitar is still for sale. |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 18 October 1999 01:34 PM
Popping it back to the top... |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 21 October 1999 10:16 PM
Still waiting for a buyer. |
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Jim Cohen Member Posts: 8715 |
posted 22 October 1999 05:26 AM
It's like waiting for Godot... |
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