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Tony Rankin
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posted 23 April 1999 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Rankin     
I have a mint D-10 Franklin that I dearly love. I don't play the C6 neck and I have been thinking about converting the guitar to a S-10 w/pad. Does anyone know how much weight reduction would result from the conversion? Has anyone else done this? I'd like to hear some opinions on the idea. Thanks!!!


Bobby Lee
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posted 23 April 1999 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
I've done this recently, and the weight reduction was noticable. I also noticed that I lost a small amount of sustain in the process, and gained a small amount of "cabinet drop". Neither is a big problem on my guitar (a Sierra), and I hate to admit that the D-10 pundits are right, but it was slightly more stable with the back neck strung up.

You should also be aware that you're throwing away resale value if you do something like that. I'm pleased with the results on my guitar, but I'm also well aware that it's worth a lot less now than it was when I bought it.

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Michael Johnstone
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posted 24 April 1999 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Johnstone     
Or - you could go ahead and learn C6.....


Randy Reimer
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posted 25 April 1999 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Reimer     
I've done this before, you will save a few pounds. Depending on how good a job you do, it could look nice. However, You'll need to fill in the holes drilled underneath, and handle the gaping hole in the end plate. Also, depending on the model, you may need to spruce up the pedal rack, as it may look pretty stupid if it has holes, etc in it.

Now you've got all the components as spare parts, etc. What better thing to do with them than to add a second neck to your single-on-double guitar!

Sorry, b0b, I never met a guitar like this I liked, including the one I own now. They arn't significantly lighter and why not just get a single. IMHO

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posted 25 April 1999 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
Randy,

I like the feel of the double cabinet. On a Sierra, knee lever typically mount at the back of the guitar. It's a lot more comfortable than a single neck because I don't have to bend my knees so much.

Randy Reimer
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posted 25 April 1999 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Reimer     
There are advantages, such as that, or giving a place to put beer, ashtrays, etc.



Jack Stoner
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posted 25 April 1999 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jack Stoner     
Since the Franklin is all aluminum I doubt that you would really loose that much in weight.



Harold C Fogle
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posted 25 April 1999 03:39 PM           
I think you'd be better off to save the D-10 and get Paul to build you an SD-10 from scratch. Just a thought.


Tony Rankin
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posted 25 April 1999 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Rankin     
Bob said enough to convince me not to do it. It's too beautiful to mess with anyway. I guess I'll have to start saving for that new guitar. Thanks for the input.


moon mullin
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posted 25 April 1999 09:06 PM           
Tony, I am retired and have a lot of time for steel playing and I have allways played a single neck. If I had a double neck now, I would put in some time learning the C-6th neck. I play some C-6th but not very good. I play a lot of western swing numbers on the B-6th side od E-9th, but it is not the same. Ok. It sounds like you will keep the double neck so good luck !!
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Bill Rowlett
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posted 26 April 1999 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Rowlett     
Hi Tony,

You could always convert the back neck to another E9th tuning. If you play out, that would come in handy if you break a string in the middle of a set.

Bill

Lee Baucum
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posted 26 April 1999 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lee Baucum     
Hmmm. Sounds like somebody read my letter to the editor in Steel Guitar World Magazine. A couple of years ago I made the suggestion that those who don't play C6 could easily convert the back neck to E9. A different type of pickup could be installed for a different tone. And of course, when that pesky 3rd string pops, you've got an emergency back-up E9 waiting for you.

Lee, from South Texas

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posted 27 April 1999 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Reimer     
Hmmmm ... string them all g#, then you dont need to restring on stage if one breaks


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