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Ronney Bailey Member Posts: 574 |
posted 25 January 2000 02:35 AM
Hi,Guys I"am thinking about removing the Mica from My S\10 on double frame with Pad.it has Mica only on the top and front.Black mica on top and Green Mica on the front.I don't like the color combination I want to replace it with Rosewood or Pecan.I prefer the Pecan I can buy the Pecan from Emmons precut to size for $1.75 square foot.This is a fine steel with 5 pedals and 5 knees with metal neck is all pre machined for a D\10 all the way I would only need get the parts to finish it to a D\10.any advice or ideas would be helpfull and Appriciated. |
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Rodney Shuffler Member Posts: 593 |
posted 25 January 2000 04:22 AM
Yer gonna screw up a nice guitar. Rod ------------------ |
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Ronney Bailey Member Posts: 574 |
posted 25 January 2000 04:26 AM
I Don't know about that? If it is done right it will be one nice Guitar.Thanks |
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Jack Strayhorn Member Posts: 250 |
posted 25 January 2000 06:02 AM
The mica on the top and back is bonded on under heat and pressure. You must heat it with a torch and scrape it off. The front is contacted on so it should be easier. It is best to bond on the top with some heat. Contact cement will come loose over time due to expansion and contraction. If you are familiar with woodworking this should be a simple process. If you are not experienced I would pass it on for someone else. |
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Ronney Bailey Member Posts: 574 |
posted 25 January 2000 06:40 AM
Thanks Jack I"am pretty good with wood working so it shouldn't be to hard.I think this would be one fine looking steel if it was redone and polished up.Thanks for the info. |
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Rodney Shuffler Member Posts: 593 |
posted 25 January 2000 06:46 AM
Sorry Ronney, I didn't mean to come off smart-assed; I was just sayin' you got a nice guitar already. I seem to remember you saying it wasn't exactly what you wanted.....change of heart? I've heard those Marrs are nice steels. Rod ------------------ |
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Jim Palenscar Member Posts: 1566 |
posted 25 January 2000 06:47 AM
You can use a high temperature hair dryer (I used one that I used to use for setting monocoat on model airplanes) to loosen the mica- be prepared to take awhile but it should come off just fine using a putty knife to gently persuade it to lift off~~ |
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Ed Naylor Member Posts: 1827 |
posted 25 January 2000 07:05 AM
Having over 30 years experience building and repairing Steels my advice is - DON'T TOUCH IT.You will only spend time and money and most likely end up with dissapointing results. If some reason you are unhappy with the Guitar- sell it. and buy something else. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works 1-800-749-3363 |
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Jon Smorada Member Posts: 756 |
posted 25 January 2000 07:18 AM
Ronney, I had to replace the front Mica a couple years ago on my '66 D-10 because it was damaged. What Jack said is correct. I talked to Ron Lashley and he told me to (carefully)use a heat gun or propane torch, being very careful not to damage the aluminum trim strip or set the body on fire. ------------------ |
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Ronney Bailey Member Posts: 574 |
posted 25 January 2000 08:17 AM
Thanks for all the input Guys I do appriciate it much.I do like this steel it has a great pedal set up and plays and sounds great! I would like a D\10 or Universal 12 on double frame but just can't afford the steel I really want right now.So just concidering the possiblities.The color combo is a little funky to me but maybe nice to someone else.I love the color Black but just hate it on a steel don't ask me why,I guess I just like the wood grain type mica finish and a finer looking finish.It has a standard set up more or less but I can't really change the pedal set up as far as the knee levers to the way I'am use to without haveing to buy or have made a few parts due to the way the cross rods are set up.If I could some how find the parts to finish it into a D\10 I would as it is premachined but would most likely cost more than it would be worth.Rod don't worry no offence taken bud.Anyway it's up for sale or trade on buy and sell...Thanks |
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Donny Hinson Member Posts: 9192 |
posted 26 January 2000 02:23 PM
If you just want to "try" a new color for awhile, get a piece of contact paper (available in a lot of woodgrains) and stick it over the formica. It's easily removed, and won't hurt the guitar. (just an idea, of course) |
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Lee Baucum Member Posts: 3201 |
posted 26 January 2000 07:32 PM
Here is something I brought up a long time ago. Many, many moons ago, dishwashers came with interchangeable front panels. Usually there were two panels, the front and back of each panel a different color. You simply removed the metal trim on one side, slid out the panel, and turned it around or used the other panel (which was stored behind the front panel). Why couldn't a steel guitar be built the same way? It could come with a black top and rear apron, and have interchangeable panels for the front. When you get tired of one color, slip it out and install a different one. Lee, from South Texas |
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Ronney Bailey Member Posts: 574 |
posted 27 January 2000 01:23 AM
Some Steel Guitars do have a front insert the BMI's for one you just took off one of the corner blocks that the leg screwed into and the Mica insert would slid out And you could have a piece cut the same size and put it back in. [This message was edited by Ronney Bailey on 27 January 2000 at 01:24 AM.] |
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Fred Layman Member Posts: 583 |
posted 27 January 2000 07:31 PM
The Flynn also comes with removeable front panels. |
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I found that the heat gun didn't work on this particular guitar, so I had to go the torch route. If you keep the torch moving, you'll be OK. Use a stiff putty knife. Once you're able to get the putty knife between the Mica and the wood, keep working the Mica until it lifts off. If you let it cool the adhesive will re-set. Once you get it all removed sand off the existing adhesive to give yourself a smooth surface to work with. Unless you are experienced working with Mica, take the guitar to a cabinet maker and you probably will be able to talk them into putting a new piece on. I went to my local custom kitchen shop and they charged me about $35.00. At any rate, it's pretty work intensive and I really wouldn't do it just for a color change.