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John Sims
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posted 16 November 2000 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Sims     
Dumb question for a newbie...Why is a guitar called an axe? There must be some reason or history behicd this that may be interesting. I can't imagine that it was from some heavy metal guitarist smashing his "axe" and using it like an "axe"...Thanks for the replies in advance.

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J D Sauser
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posted 16 November 2000 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J D Sauser     
I don't really know either, John but I always suspected it was because of the shape of some electric guitars (not steel guitars) and some of the "special" handling that they have been given since 1968 or so... (?).

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posted 16 November 2000 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jon Light     
Naw--the slang goes back a ways. Jazz players called their horn an axe. I kicked this around the forum a couple of years ago. Never really solved it. But consider that we "go to the woodshed" or do some "shedding" to work on our "chops".


Donny Hinson
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posted 16 November 2000 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Donny Hinson     
It's an old expression for just about any musical instrument, first used by by Jazz musicians in the late '30s. And although there is no proof, quite probably the word "sax" had something to do with it. ("Sax" was short for "saxophone", and "ax" was short for everything else?)

The phrase "keeping your chops up" (staying in practice) came much later, but was probably rooted in the use of the word "ax".

Michael Johnstone
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posted 16 November 2000 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Johnstone     
Ax......swings.......chops......Get it?
It is jazz lingo and it did origionally refer to horns,but came to refer to any instrument, because in the right hands it "swings."
"Did you ever hear a tenor sax - swingin' like a rusty ax" Anyone besides me remember that old lyric? And "shedding" comes from woodshedding,or to practice intensely in solitude away from others - as in out in the woodshed.But one of my favorite musical terms or I should say malapropisms is the way Nashville guys "pick" - no matter what instrument they play.Example: "What do you play?" Answer: "I pick drums." Now-the real question: What's the origion of "clam" to mean a harmonic mistake.I've also heard old time big band guys call an unforgivable glaring clam a "lizard". -MJ-


Robert
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posted 16 November 2000 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert     
I think "clam" came from "bearded clam" . . .


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posted 16 November 2000 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smiley Roberts     
Shot Jackson always called it a "horn".

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posted 16 November 2000 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vern Kendrick     
Smiley,I believe Shot got the term "horn" from Buddy Emmons,...I've heard people who could do more damage with a steel than an Axe


Al Marcus
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posted 16 November 2000 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Marcus     
I grew up during the swing , jazz era and I think Donny may be close. Sax- Axe first , then everything was an Axe. Horn was used a lot, even for Piano. Just the "lingo" of the day back then.....al


Smiley Roberts
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posted 17 November 2000 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smiley Roberts     
Vern,I believe you're right. I still miss ol' Shot,to this day. He sure helped me out a lot,when I first came to town.

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Jack Stoner
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posted 17 November 2000 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jack Stoner     
Axe, Horn, etc. No different than in "Nashvul" where they have Piano "Pickers", Drum "Pickers", etc.


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posted 17 November 2000 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Van Allen     
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Now-the real question: What's the origion of "clam" to mean a harmonic mistake.

MJ- perhaps this from Dictionary.com:

"clam \Clam\, n. [Abbrev. fr. clamor.] A crash or clangor made by ringing all the bells of a chime at once. --Nares. "


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posted 17 November 2000 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLAYSTEEL9     
I always understood it to mean yu were going to work so bring you tools,( your axe) musicans just picked it up.
may be wrong
wayne

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posted 17 November 2000 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jon Light     
I always thought of clam as akin to a hocker. In music as in life.


Chas Holman
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posted 19 November 2000 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chas Holman     
Are you guys sure it doesn't have to do with what any musician uses to "chop" through that cloud of cigarette smoke in all those beer joints, bars and honky tonks..?


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