I typically use a modified Sho-Bud Professional that has a Bigsby copy pickup in the bridge position and a 705 at the neck, or a very-modified Sho-Bud Super Pro with an EMG (because they're quiet around computers) pickup or Guitarzilla, an effects guitar that is usually "prepared" and has a bass neck.

If it's a "straight" recording, and we aren't using an amp ('59 Standel with Altec 418B), I come out of the volume pedal into either a Demeter Tube Bass Pre or an Evans pre with a Demeter Real Reverb (springs) in the loop. From there it's into their converters or if it's my converters, I use a TC Electronics Gold Channel.

If I need overdrive, I use a ToneBone (classic) or THD BiValve with "vintage" tubes.

If it's full on effects then I come out of the pedal into a Mackie 1604 vlz mixer and send it to a TC Electronics M-5000 and an Eventide Orville, or I can cascade the Orville into the M-5k or the 5k into the Orville, back into the mixer then out to their console. If it goes to an amp then the Mackie goes to a MosValve which then powers a Standel cabinet and a Music Man "rubbermaid" cabinet, both with Peavey 1501-4 speakers.

If it's a simpler set up, Demeter Tube Bass Pre into the Orville or 5K, or both, into the console or converters.

If it's into my computer, I have just moved from Sonic Solutions to Pro Tools HD, (I feel like I've joined the "dark side").

I would open it up for a few more " Non Major Label folks" as well , as there are many many home/Indy sessions producing results that far exceed the Major's..

T

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 14 May 2004 at 07:33 AM.]

Pretty simple for me. Neve preamps 100% the time (even when I am playing a session I carry a pair and my own mics just in case). Favorite mics, not necessarily in order: Sony C37A tube, Royer ribbon, Sennheiser 421, AKG 414 TLII (C37 my fave), though I have tried and used about everything. Mic placement varies, but usually a foot off the amp for starters, going closer or farther away depending on the mood of the track. Generally no compression to tape, unless looking for something specific, and then usually a TubeTech or an 1176. Don't usually need much EQ when the chain is right, though you can't beat the Neves if you need it. Not afraid of effects from the player with the exception of reverb, though then again, whatever the track calls for. If we go direct, it's also through the Neve's--they alway put the magic on the tone. I have worked with Paul, Sonny and Dan recently, and they make it real easy on an engineer, giving you great tone right off the bat. With the vast amount of home-based rigs, many of them are extremely happy when I provide them with a finshed, line level signal out of my pres/mics. Makes it quicker for all of us .

With a great player and a great chain, it's pretty easy .

Hope this helps.

By the way, I love your solo record and really like the AMC stuff.

Cya

[This message was edited by John Macy on 14 May 2004 at 07:13 AM.]

I'm sorry if I've offended those of you who are deeply passionate about recording pedal steel by asking for postings only from artists with major label experience. There are three reasons why I posted as I did:

1) Reason number one is that in my opinion, when discussing examples of a particular approach to recording, being able to hear the results of a particular approach cements the understanding of how the approach works. I may be incorrect , but I'm assuming that major label product is generally more accessible to the average reader of Recording Magazine. In fact, because I don't expect that my article is going to inspire throngs of Recording Magazine readers to go in search of independently released pedal steel-centric albums, I'm hoping that the readers may already have heard examples (on the radio, TV, movies, etc.) of players who might post.

2) Reason number two is that in my experience working on major label projects (limited as it may be), generally speaking the engineers are very experienced and usually quite good at what they do. Let me just say that in my experience the odds of working with an engineer who can run a session fluently and can get good sounds are greater working on a major label session... Every time I've recorded with anyone, I pay attention to the choices that are made to gather my sound. I incorporate this knowledge into my subsequent work. I'd like to tap into the world of the heavily experienced, in-the-trenches-every-day professional, to provide the readers a window into how some of their favorite successful records were made.

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I always track with an amp, usually a THD BiValve through a THD cabinet with a JBL E120 and a Celestion Century 12". I prefer Coles and Royer ribbon mikes, which are usually positioned a foot or two away from the speaker (usually centered on the Celestion). I also have had good luck with the Shure SM7 broadcast mike close up to the Celestion, off center. It's like an sm57 with a low end. For rock and roll stuff, sometimes an sm57 is just the right thing to fit a rockin' steel part in the mix.

In terms of preamps, my two favorite studios here in Seattle use Neve and Quad 8 pres. They usually don't eq, but for some sounds (e.g. the George Harrison slide sound) I like to have a lot of compression (the UA or Manley ones seem to be popular around here).

Paul Franklin and Buddy Emmons wouldbe the ones to ask.

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Mattman in "The Big Sleazy"-:
S-10 Dekley, Suitcase Fender Rhodes, B-bender Les Paul

Having played for years for major,minor and diminished labels I`ve arrived at my present set up. Lack of studio space,lack of studio time and lack of steel recording know-how in the studios have all played a part...
To consistently get "my tone" I go direct with the following set up:
-Zum or Williams steel ( BL 710s , 910s)
-Evans pre amp
-Rocktron Prophesy Preamp/effects with the preamp section by passed (for PSG)
-different settings of the Prophesys programmable speaker simulation in memory (this is important)
-Stereo feed to the board
- I track with effects unless asked not to. (the stuff in the Prophesy is top quality,and I`ve tweaked it a lot and saved presets appropriate for different situations)

I use same set-up for live gigs,too. I go direct live also,I just add a 1x12 speaker cab with a built in Mosvalve power amp for on-stage monitoring.So, I`ve got the same basic tone whether I`m playing a festival or sweetening up a friends demo on his porta-studio.
For lap steel I do use miked tube amps like the Fender Vibrolux and my current favorite, the THD Univalve.

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Olli Haavisto
Polar steeler
Finland

[This message was edited by Olli Haavisto on 19 May 2004 at 11:30 PM.]

But here's a rig I use :

Sho-Bud Pro-II w/ TT C6/705 E9, to Hilton out 1 into Transfex 212 stereo amp with Newman presets, moded by me.

Brauner Valvet mic at 1.5 feet a bit off axis into Aphex 1100 Thermionics tube preamp side A

Earthworks SR-71 or QTC-1 mics about 8 feet back into Thermionics side B

Apehex into Protools 888 via AES/EBU digital

Hilton out 2, into Avalon U5 DI into 888 Analog
and then Line 6 Amp Farm plug-in.

Unless I did PT HD with Appogee converters I wouldn't get a much better sound for me,

Still it's a very versatile tracking method.
it can fit on any mix I want.

Gonna add Brad's Black Box before the Hilton when the 220v versions ready.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 20 May 2004 at 12:05 PM.]