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Topic: PU question for Gibson EH100 + EH150
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CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 23 August 2003 05:25 AM
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Gentlemen, this is a most delicate issue:
i have an EH 100 w: the split blade PU
and an EH150 w: the famous CC PU 1 blade + 3 pole pieces
i find that these two axes really sound similar
i honestly can't hear a diff between them
any comments on this matter ?
is the split blade PU considered a CC PU ?
Thanx again Guys  ------------------
Steel what?
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Jason Lollar
Member From: Seattle area
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posted 23 August 2003 07:59 PM
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Well they made alot of variations of that pickup depending on the year it was made and the model number they have differences.
The coil and the bobbins are very similar, the size and shape of the coil, the wire gauge and turn count are a big part of the sound, thats all pretty much the same wether its a split blade or solid. The magnets used are quite different between years and models, thats the other part of the sound.
I have seen similar pickups on sherwoods, another gibson offshoot as far as I know again same bobbin and coil but different magnets.EH 150 made after 1936 have a completely different magnet than later models, when was yours made? As far as I know all 1936 EH 150's have a removable back and use two large bar magnets after that they went to a smaller magnet that is a segment of a channel horseshoe. I have never had both models (a 36 150 and a later) in my shop at the same time to compare tone! |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 24 August 2003 01:33 AM
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Thanx for your reply Jason
the EH100 and 150 i have seem to be from 1937/8
EH100 SR#: 5GE-2088
EH150 SR#: DGE-4805 (the back does come off)------------------
Steel what?
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Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 24 August 2003 02:56 PM
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In my book its all Charlie Christian technology. There is a square bobbin, its an easier hole to cut. There are slight differences in magnet and blade, and the guitars were inconsistant. The eh100 is like second generation easier to produce model. Some of the eh100s had a removeable back, there was a black one on the internet http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/instmnts/lap/index.html
but there are no inside photos although I had seen some. If I see em again I'll grab the and post em. A few eh100s are wired and then glued together thus unserviceable. But yes I agree they sound alike. I have both guitars , a 36 eh 150 , a 37 eh100. Fat yet defined tone albiet a bit hum-prone[This message was edited by Chuck Fisher on 24 August 2003 at 06:07 PM.] |
mickd
Member From: london,england
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posted 24 August 2003 03:08 PM
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I think mine's a '38.. |
Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 24 August 2003 03:19 PM
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I'm thinking your correct, maybe 39, I think you can trace the number. My 37 is an odd one, its extra thick and has a pointed florentine end on the fingerboard like a 36 eh-150 but the knobs on one side which is said to be a '38 thing.These guitars sound nice and have huge mojo-factor I'd love a 8 or 10 string one. CF |
Rick Aiello
Member From: Berryville, VA USA
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posted 24 August 2003 05:39 PM
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Here are some photos of Charlie Christians for steel and spanish guitars ...
Lollar's New Charlie Christians
CC Magnets ------------------
www.horseshoemagnets.com |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 25 August 2003 02:11 AM
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Thank you Gentlemen for your responses
i too would love a 7 or 8 EH150 or even better a D8 EH150
if any of you have pics of these models
i'd love to see them
Nice Blackie Chuck ! never saw one before.
MickD your EH100 looks just like mine !
Thanx Rick A for the links
let's keep these Mojos workin' ! 
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Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 30 September 2003 11:24 AM
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Guys,
lets keep this thread going, as Gibson EH-150 / EH-100 enthusiasts. These guitars sound like no others, the pickups are even stolen and mounted on teles, jazz guitars, etc.Look at these pics.
http://wug.physics.uiuc.edu/courses/phys398emi/398emi_gibson_EH-150_LS_Pix.html There are some great inside shots. I'm working on a website, I will put a bunch of these shots online in one place and link it here. Also the recent aluminum eh-150 on ebay pictures. How cool were those??!!!! Regards,
CF |
John Billings
Member From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA
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posted 30 September 2003 12:55 PM
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I have a late '30's Console Grande D-7, that has CC pickups with adjustable polepieces similar to those used in P-90's. It has the Florentine, pointed-end fingerboards with large pearl block markers. I have yet to see any other CC's like these.
JB |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 30 September 2003 02:18 PM
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I have a 7 string EH150 with the Charlie Christian pickup. The bottom string is not grooved for a low string, it seems to be set up for a possible 6th or 7th tone.
Erv |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 30 September 2003 02:56 PM
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Erv, you got too many guitars !
Chuck, thanx for bringin'the thread back up
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HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 30 September 2003 06:17 PM
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Crowbear....ask and you shall receive  |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 30 September 2003 11:24 PM
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Iain
Member From: Edinburgh, Scotland
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posted 01 October 2003 04:16 AM
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I have a 10 string EH-150 with a slotted headstock and vertical tuners.
Lovely guitar.
Any idea what it might be worth? Not selling it, but I'm interested - I worry about taking it out on gigs as it must be rare (any ideas as to how many 10 stringers were made?) |
Michael Devito
Member From: Montclair, NJ, USA
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posted 01 October 2003 09:12 AM
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Howard, you're killing me. That doubleneck Gibson is so damn beautiful! |
Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 01 October 2003 11:00 PM
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that double is unbelievably cool!!also, what is the string spacing on the 8-string neck on the double? what is the spacing on the 10 string, please? truly jealous,
CF |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 02 October 2003 05:17 PM
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looks like 5/16 at the nut and 3/8 at the bridge...on the 8 string neck |
Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 06 October 2003 03:43 AM
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Iain, whats the spacing on the 10-string?akso, is the back a screw-on? thanks,
CF |
Iain
Member From: Edinburgh, Scotland
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posted 07 October 2003 01:46 AM
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sorry, didn't see this til now. will try to measure the spacing tonight.
I sent that info once to Jason Lollar, but - inevitably - forgot to keep it for myself!
Will TRY to remember to measure it... |
Iain
Member From: Edinburgh, Scotland
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posted 08 October 2003 12:52 AM
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seems to be just over a centimetre at bridge, about 11mm, and just under, say 9mm, at nut.
And yes, the back screws off.
Beautiful wood and sound. Got it at a stupidly low price in a Music-Go-Round in Park Ridge, IL, about 5 years ago. Guy said it had been there for ages (how come?) so sold it to me for what he'd paid for it.
Ricky Davis played it, much better than me, at a Dale W gig in Glasgow a couple of years back. |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 08 October 2003 04:47 AM
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would you have a pic of that 10 stringer Ian ? |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 08 October 2003 04:58 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe Chas Smith also has an EH 150 w 10 strings. |
Iain
Member From: Edinburgh, Scotland
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posted 08 October 2003 05:40 AM
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will try to get a better pic sometime - I don't have a dig camera and I'm useless with computers and technology.
However, if you go here - www.sunshinedelay.com - and click on "Gallery" then on "with Jason Ringenberg" and scroll down you'll see it, albeit not in any great detail. |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 08 October 2003 09:19 AM
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Howard R i believe you're right about Chas Smith havin' one
he posted a pic of it a couple of years ago here
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Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 18 October 2003 05:35 PM
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Did gibson ever make eh-100 or eh150 or eh185 8 string?I'd sure like one CF |
Russ Young
Member From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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posted 18 October 2003 06:23 PM
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According to George Gruhn, the EH-100 was available with 6 or 7 strings; the EH-185 with 6, 7, 8 or 10.The EH-150 was initially available with 6 or 7 strings; 8, 9 or 10 were optional later ... and there is "at least one with 13 strings." |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 19 October 2003 09:08 PM
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Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 20 October 2003 01:32 AM
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very nice all 7s though or are my eyes off? a couple of rare ones, tnhe one on the right, wow!I'll have my server up soon and I'll post mine. Regards all,
CF
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HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 20 October 2003 05:03 AM
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The EH 185 on the left is a 6 string. The others are 7.There were only 25 of the EH 275 (right) ever made. |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 20 October 2003 08:59 AM
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thanx for the info on the 275 Howard
i've got a real nice pic of one
i thought it was an 185[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 20 October 2003 at 08:59 AM.] |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 20 October 2003 06:35 PM
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here's your chance, if you're in the market; http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2566061610&category=33040 |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 25 October 2003 07:07 AM
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With 2 hours left, reserve met at $400.00 + this may be an opportunity. Of course anything can happen in the closing minutes, but you never know. Sometimes you hit a sleeper, and this ain't no BR 9! |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 25 October 2003 07:14 AM
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yeah Robert, i'm surprised the price has been so low
i wont be bidding but i'll be watchin' |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 25 October 2003 08:34 AM
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Whose Robert?  |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 25 October 2003 12:09 PM
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must be Howard Roberts since i had him on my blaster 
722$ was quite a reasonable price would'nt ya'say Howard ? |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 25 October 2003 01:22 PM
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It's a good thing you didn't call me Dick...Someone got a good deal. Wish I had paid that for mine... |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 25 October 2003 03:41 PM
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well, here's another.....
http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2567957304&category=33040 |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 26 October 2003 01:19 AM
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Quick sale - good price on that one too
No Capt' it was'nt me |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 26 October 2003 05:05 AM
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Interesting, each one was purchased by a reseller. The first was purchased by Andersonsp, who sells a lot of vintage steels (I've purchased from him and he is a gentleman), and the other was Hoboken Vintage Guitars.I guess this says that they sold at a reasonable price. They will command more when put up for sale again. |
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