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Rick Aiello
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From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 21 November 2003 11:12 AM     profile   send email     edit
I hate seein' tired magnets in vintage steels.

For a donation to b0b's Forum (whatever it is worth to you) and return postage ... I will re-mag your Rickenbacher, Fender, Gibson, etc. pickups.

I can saturate cobalt steel, alnico or ceramic (ferrite) magnets with my 40,000 ampere capacitor discharge electromagnet.

I have fixtures for horseshoe magnets, bar magnets (Gibson) and the rectangular Fenders.

I have redone all of my Rickys and my Fender traps/boxcar ... amazing results.

Remember ... when your "heros" recorded those tunes ... their magnets were SATURATED!!


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www.horseshoemagnets.com

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 21 November 2003 at 01:36 PM.]

Mike Neer
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From: NJ

posted 21 November 2003 11:27 AM     profile   send email     edit
Very generous offer, Rick. Thanks.
Rick Collins
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From: Claremont , CA USA

posted 21 November 2003 12:54 PM     profile   send email     edit
Rick, I'm assuming that soaking these tired magnets in Geritol won't work.

Is it necsssarily so, that the magnets on my 1952 Fender Dual Pro. 8-string have degenerated? How can I tell? And can you describe the difference when the magnets are regenerated?

Many thanks, Rick

Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 21 November 2003 01:15 PM     profile   send email     edit
Those Direct Contacts use alnico rectangles at opposite ends of the pickup ... yolked together by the steel cover plate.

If both necks have similar outputs .. thats a good sign.

If you take an iron nail and touch it "dead center" of the cover plate ... you should get a low to moderate "pull". As you move closer to either edge (toward the magnet blocks) the pull should increase and reach its max right above the magnets.

All magnets exhibit greater pull at the corners/edges ... so keep that in mind when comparing. Be consistant when placing the nail "probe"

Since the trapazoids have a bass magnet about 2x the size of the treble side ... the bass pull should be proportionally higher.

If you notice very little pull ... especially directly over the magnet block ... she's tired.

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 21 November 2003 at 01:28 PM.]

Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 21 November 2003 01:22 PM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
And can you describe the difference when the magnets are regenerated?

Greater output ...

Richer bass/mid range...

Clearer harmonics.

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 21 November 2003 04:32 PM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
with my 40,000 ampere capacitor discharge electromagnet.

Wasn't that the weapon that Flash Gordon used to defeat Emperor Ming?

Russ Young
Member

From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 21 November 2003 04:41 PM     profile   send email     edit
When Rick throws the switch it sounds like a rimshot, Howard!
Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 21 November 2003 04:59 PM     profile   send email     edit
When I first got it ... I had placed a piece of alloy steel across the secondary's iron plates ... didn't fasten it down tight enough and the arc blew/melted two holes in it ...

Arrrggghhh ... "Tim the Toolman" would be proud

Russ Young
Member

From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 21 November 2003 05:18 PM     profile   send email     edit
Hey Rick -- does Jason Lollar have one in his shop? I'd prefer to tuck my B-6 under my arm and go see him. No offense, of course ...
Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 21 November 2003 05:44 PM     profile   send email     edit
We both have nice (and powerful) DC electromagnets that are powerful enough for cobalt steel and alnico.

I built the first one ... heavy as a truck ... 3000 winds of 12 guage Cu over 1" iron round.

Then I found a guy who made very nice DC electromagnets ... so we both got one of them.

But I just couldn't resist the allure of "more power" ... hence the capacitor discharge unit. Just my way ... much to my wifes dismay

Seriously, I have written up an instruction sheet that enables you to remove the horseshoe magnets (pre or postwar) without disturbing any of the electronics ... so folks can just "slip off their shoes" a send 'em.

The coolest thing about magnets ... 5 seconds can return them back to there ORIGINAL state ... no matter their age (alot of corrosion can lower the saturation point though).

Can't say that about many things in life

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www.horseshoemagnets.com

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 21 November 2003 06:57 PM     profile   send email     edit
Sounds interesting Rick. Also, quite nice of you.

So where is this instruction sheet located?

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

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Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 21 November 2003 07:13 PM     profile   send email     edit
They are now on my website ... on the Store Page.

Click on Tunin' and Maggin' ...

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 21 November 2003 at 07:39 PM.]

Chris Scruggs
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From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA

posted 21 November 2003 10:59 PM     profile   send email     edit
Rick,

I looked on your website and saw "coming soon, direct string and boxcar pickups".

When will this be? What do you reckon they will cost? I'm sure alot of people on this forum will be very excited about this!

Thanks, Chris

Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 22 November 2003 05:23 AM     profile   send email     edit
I'm finishing the first prototype this weekend.

I'm really excited about them ... We are thinking about 3 versions.

One with the intergrated bridge, one without (to mount on various steels and slide guitars), and one with unequal magnetization (bass side being stronger ... to emulate the traps)

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 22 November 2003 at 06:00 AM.]

Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 29 November 2003 07:18 AM     profile   send email     edit
Just a reminder ...

I have already done a couple of Fender Trap alnicos ... they were down around 40%.

They "ain't any more"

Chris S., the Fender "Boxcars" were a Rippin' success !!!! I have them on my Sierra right now .... ultra output and tone.

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www.horseshoemagnets.com

Kerry Wood
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From: Tucson, Arizona, USA

posted 29 November 2003 06:57 PM     profile   send email     edit
Rick, I really want to do this. How long is this offer good for? I'm just having a hard time getting motivated to take my pickups apart this week.

Thanks,
Kerry

Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 29 November 2003 07:56 PM     profile   send email     edit
This isn't a "Limited Offer"

Send 'em whenever it is convienient for you ...

I enjoy erasing 40,50,60+ years of hard livin' ... with the flick of a switch

b0b
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, California, USA

posted 29 November 2003 09:27 PM     profile   send email     edit
Forum donations from maggin' are starting to trickle in. Thanks, Rick, for the generous offer.

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Andy Zynda
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From: Wisconsin

posted 29 November 2003 10:50 PM     profile   send email     edit
When I build my Magger/De-Magger for speaker reconing, I used it on my Fender T8 trap magnets on one neck, just to see...
You guys that have these old Trapezoid pickups wont believe your ears when you hear them with recharged magnets. Like walking onto a nightclub, and hearing the band live as opposed to a half block away.

Very knightly gesture! Cheers to you!
-andy-

Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 30 November 2003 09:21 AM     profile   send email     edit
Andy, when I was building my first electromagnet, I ran across this speaker website Lambda Acoustics.

He has since taken down the photos of his "burned down" workshop ... after his homemade capacitor discharge unit got "outa-hand"

After reading that ... I decided to build a DC unit ... ha, ha

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