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John Pelz
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From: Maineville, Ohio, USA

posted 27 April 2004 08:29 PM     profile   send email     edit
Hi Jody,
I hope you see this or someone can bring your attention to this post. I got a walnut-colored 1952 Fender Dual 8 Professional a month or so ago, and it is my very first steel guitar of any kind. I was talking to a local pedal-steel guitarist today, and during our conversation, it was mentioned that a lot more blond/natural-finish Dual Pros were made than walnut-finished ones. I was wondering if you might know how many walnut-finish Dual Pros were produced in the 1950s (or even just in 1952 specifically), compared to the blond/natural finish? Or, if you aren't aware of specific numbers, might you know some rough ratios of walnuts to blond/natural? Did 1950s-vintage Dual Pros come in finishes other than walnut or blond? Thank you very much in advance for any help!

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1952 Fender Dual 8 Professional
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Jody Carver
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From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever

posted 30 April 2004 07:24 AM     profile     edit
John
Im sorry I didnt reply sooner. So far as your question. There were on a ratio of % of Walnut Customs and Dual Pro's manufactured
during the years 1949 through 1954, I would
guess that without a doubt there would have been 20% Walnut as opposed to 80% blonde or
as they refer to it today "butterscotch".

Reason? the demand for the Telecaster in its
blonde color made for a popular color and with that Donald D.Randall and Leo Fender decided that the walnut would be a special order.
Aside from the fact that walnut guitars were not stained as walnut but a true walnut wood
which if the grain was not as true as Leo Fender wanted it,it was discarded and NOT painted over with blonde paint as others have said. If the walnut did not meet his
specifications the walnut was cut up and scrapped.Expensive? impractical? but true.

This was rare however but it was costly to manufacture walnut wood that was perfect in grain continuity. Many had imperfections that wouldnt interfere with the tone,but the
Blonde color won over in buyers choice as opposed to the walnut guitars . And finally....
were then discontinued in the fall of 1954.

I have a walnut Custom triple and find it every bit a good sounding and beautiful as any blonde I have ever seen. At times I find it sweeter sounding than ash and or swamp ash

You have a fine guitar and a not common wood or finish. It was Noel Boggs while working with the Spade Cooley Band started using his
blonde custom on west coast TV shows that the
custom guitar became known as the "diamond steel guitar" making reference to the diamond
shaped metal covers that are on the front of the guitars.Spade Cooley liked the fact that the blonde was Fenders trademark. In fact with that said.Cooley wrote a fiddle tune titled Blonde Fiddle Blues.

Spade Cooley was a big influence on Leo Fender as was Bob Wills. Leon McAuliffe also liked the blonde color better for its standing out as opposed to Gibsons sunburst
guitars. When you saw a blonde with the chrome diamonds, you knew right off it was a Fender.It was the Fender Custom and Dual Pros
that put Fender on the way to where it is today.There were no other color options other than blonde. Years later CBS Fender started producing black and light blonde often reffered to as "vanilla" blonde.


I hope this is some way answers your question

Thank You. Edited for $ as opposed to % .
Walnut cost more money back then. I like the blonde butterscotch ash guitars, but I unlike
many prefer walnut over blonde. Maybe I could not be regarded as a Gentleman I dont prefer blonde's.

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 30 April 2004 at 07:37 AM.]

John Pelz
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From: Maineville, Ohio, USA

posted 30 April 2004 08:02 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thank you very much for this invaluable information, Jody-- it is greatly appreciated, and answers my questions most definitively!
I found it very interesting that butterscotch was greatly preferred over walnut, although I do realize that you are specifically speaking of Teles in this case, Jody. I really love the way my walnut Fender looks-- I guess that I, too, don't prefer blondes. (No offense to butterscotches, though. Just a matter of personal preference.) Your history of players of blonde Fenders was very interesting, too, Jody. Thanks again!
(edited to add additional blather)

[This message was edited by John Pelz on 30 April 2004 at 10:49 AM.]

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