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Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 16 September 2004 07:40 AM     profile   send email     edit
Do you think this band even had a prayer trying to stay in tune during bar slants?


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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 16 September 2004 at 07:40 AM.]

Rick Collins
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From: Claremont , CA USA

posted 16 September 2004 10:38 AM     profile   send email     edit
They may very well have, Gerald. One can tell that they knew what they were doing___looks as if they all had tube amps.
c c johnson
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From: killeen,tx usa

posted 16 September 2004 10:57 AM     profile   send email     edit
No problem. I played in little bands like this between the ages of 8 to 12 and as the teacher always said: "If you think you are out of tune, use more vibrato". Of couse this did not apply to the kids in the front row as they were always 3 lessons ahead of the rest of us. CC
Mike Neer
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From: NJ

posted 16 September 2004 11:26 AM     profile   send email     edit
Must've been one helluva racket!

I have a couple of those old Hawaiian Steel Guitar folios and quite often they're written for more than one steel.

Dig those L-5s.

Gene Jones
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From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 16 September 2004 11:38 AM     profile     edit
Back in the 50's there were numerous itinerant music teachers. An acquaintance recently told me that when he was 8 or 9 years old, one of those guys came through their farming community and signed everyones kids up for Hawaiian steel guitar lessons. After collecting all the money, he disappeared without giving any lessons. My friend ended up being a school teacher instead of a steel guitar player!

www.genejones.com

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 16 September 2004 12:53 PM     profile   send email     edit
Here's another.

Look at the kid on the far left. Look at his right hand technique. Definitely Charlie Christian influenced.

The gal on the far right has that "court reporter-like" body language going.

The band leader looks like he's just waiting for someone to screw up.

I'd rather be in the other band (although Charlie Christian Jr. may have been fun to jam with).

Hey..... wait a minute! Look at this next one - taken just one week later.

The tyrannical band director fires all the musicians and forms a duet with the brunette second from left (and keeps the biggest amp as well).

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 16 September 2004 at 02:23 PM.]

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 16 September 2004 01:54 PM     profile   send email     edit
Which suit do you wear when you play steel?

You feel like a real slob now don't cha?

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 16 September 2004 at 02:24 PM.]

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 16 September 2004 02:01 PM     profile   send email     edit
John Kerry is on record as saying he had a band when he was in High School.

[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 16 September 2004 at 02:25 PM.]

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 16 September 2004 02:04 PM     profile   send email     edit
Quiz Time!

Which one doesn't belong?

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 16 September 2004 at 02:19 PM.]

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 16 September 2004 02:07 PM     profile   send email     edit
I would think that a left handed lap steel player would certainly throw a monkey wrench in the works...
Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 16 September 2004 02:07 PM     profile   send email     edit
And let's not forget the novelty bands of the day...

The Five M's Plus One

Two Jacks And Eight Jills

And my personal favorite...

The Oom-Pah Island Serenaders


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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 17 September 2004 at 01:19 PM.]

Harry Dietrich
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From: Robesonia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 16 September 2004 02:17 PM     profile   send email     edit
Sure was an awful lot of Gibsons around in those days.

[This message was edited by Harry Dietrich on 16 September 2004 at 02:19 PM.]

Steinar Gregertsen
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From: Arendal, Norway

posted 16 September 2004 02:20 PM     profile     edit
Erh.... uhm.... eh.... what?


Steinar

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Travis Bernhardt
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From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

posted 16 September 2004 02:50 PM     profile   send email     edit
In Stacy Phillips' Hawaiian book, there's a picture of an orchestra with dozens of dobro players. I wish there was a recording...

-Travis

Steven Cearley
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From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 16 September 2004 04:13 PM     profile   send email     edit
Steinar, you guys in Norway really need to eat more red meat!

STEVE

[This message was edited by Steven Cearley on 16 September 2004 at 04:14 PM.]

Rick Aiello
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From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 16 September 2004 04:46 PM     profile   send email     edit
Steinar ... my wife says this ... Androgel will help that condition of yours ...

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Steinar Gregertsen
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From: Arendal, Norway

posted 16 September 2004 04:53 PM     profile     edit
Thanks for the link Rick,- I knew there was something missing in my life!

Steinar

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Dave Van Allen
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From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth

posted 16 September 2004 07:38 PM     profile   send email     edit
Another Suit: Eddie Alkire looking very dapper-

John Tipka
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From: Reynoldsburg,OH

posted 17 September 2004 04:24 AM     profile   send email     edit
Dress is quite appropriate for the times the pictures were taken, but sadly today "blue jeans" and "sandals" have led to the demise of U.S. dress standards.
Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 17 September 2004 05:50 AM     profile   send email     edit
John,

My wife and I were having just that discussion the other day while we watched some classic movies from the 1940's.

The casual dress of the day was much more "dignified" (for lack of a better word) back then. Men frequently wore dress hats in public (HowardR chime in here) and suits were not just for special occasions or the workplace.

My wife (a baby boomer) who grew up just outside of New York City remembers that when she went "into the city" with her family for a special event she always wore white gloves and a hat, even as late as the early 1960's.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 17 September 2004 06:06 AM     profile   send email     edit
In those days, nobody (men & women) left the house without wearing a hat. It was an industry as large as the clothing industry was.

Many years ago, my father had a store and in the back was a "blocking room." This was where hats were made by being steamed, pulled and shaped on a wooden block. It was a hot & sweaty room. The blocker used to wear a suit when he traveled to and from work. He would then "dress down" into his T shirt, boxers, and those black socks with the garters. When the day was over, he would change back into his suit. If you saw him on the subway you'd have thought he was a bank president.

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 17 September 2004 06:06 AM     profile   send email     edit
Another thing...

One of things I like about these old photos is that the musicians pictured look like real people. They are not the blow-dryed, lipo-suctioned, botox injected, silicone enhanced, carefully packaged musicians/entertainers that populate the media today.

These pictures are from the Gibson Mastertone series of steel guitar lessons. By showing everyday people on the sheet music covers I'm sure Gibson wanted to convey that "anyone" could play the guitar and have fun doing it.

It's really sad what the media has done to music education and personal musical expression in this country. Many people will not try to play an instrument or even sing in public just because they feel they don't look the part.

Want to make a room full of Americans duck and run for cover? Announce "let's all sing Happy Birthday to Jim". Pretty sad.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 17 September 2004 at 06:58 AM.]

Erv Niehaus
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From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 17 September 2004 06:59 AM     profile   send email     edit
I started taking Hawaiian guitar lessons in Minnesota. In the Winter we would travel to New Mexico and my dad would work road construction. We were living in Albuquerque and there was a place in west Albuquerque that taught steel guitar, the Hannan Conservatory of music. The first thing they wanted to do was sell you an electric guitar and amplifier. I wasn't interested in doing that so I just sat there with my Oahu, un-amplified lap steel while the other kids had their amplified guitars. What I remember most is the instructor standing in front of the class with a microphone screaming: "QUIET, KEEP THOSE GUITARS QUIET!!!!"
Erv

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HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 17 September 2004 07:55 AM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
the musicians pictured look like real people. They are not the blow-dryed, lipo-suctioned, botox injected, silicone enhanced, carefully packaged

Well, except Steinar....

Craig Prior
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From: National City, California, USA

posted 19 September 2004 03:23 PM     profile   send email     edit
> > > >
They are not the blow-dryed, lipo-suctioned, botox injected, silicone enhanced, carefully packaged "musicians/entertainers" that populate the media today.
> > > >

Please note the careful insertion of quotations marks in the above statement.

Craig.

Robbie Daniels
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From: Casper, Wyoming, USA

posted 19 September 2004 04:47 PM     profile   send email     edit
These pictures take me back to the 1940's when I learned to play steel. I learned at the Honolulu Conservatory of Music in Oakland, CA. Periodically we would have recitals in San Francisco in groups as shown and the gifted would do solos. In those days the teaching method was the number system. Some of these number systems are still available on ebay at various times. I guess we call them tabs now. Anyway we always had to wear a tie if we were not wearing a flowered shirt with a lei. At my age I guess all that's left is memories. LOL
HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 19 September 2004 05:00 PM     profile   send email     edit
Well, they're great memories and I'm sure all of us "younger" guys (50s) sure appreciate them.
Bill Creller
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From: Saginaw, Michigan, USA

posted 21 September 2004 04:35 PM     profile   send email     edit
I'll bet all those steel guitars in the pictures sounded like a huge cat fight when they all chimed in together.
Bill
Dan Sawyer
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From: Studio City, California, USA

posted 22 September 2004 12:44 PM     profile     edit
Great photos! How about that guy with the Gibson double-8 grand console ON HIS LAP?! That must have been quite heavy. I'd like to see him play a four-set bar gig with that thing.

[This message was edited by Dan Sawyer on 22 September 2004 at 06:22 PM.]

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 22 September 2004 01:32 PM     profile   send email     edit
That guy wasn't holding the doubleneck on his lap, he was standing behind it!

Look closely... The guitar is mounted on a "Gibson Humana-Stand".

This stand was available from Gibson as an optional add-on for your steel. Two models were available. A herringbone wool tweed for $13.95. And the most popular, lightweight cotton Bermuda shorts for warm weather gigs, $10.95.

These stands were available in either male or female configuration. An additional fifty cents charge was added for the male(more material).

Things were more formal back then.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 22 September 2004 at 01:35 PM.]

Jim Cohen
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From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 22 September 2004 08:49 PM     profile   send email     edit
Hey DVA, where'd you get that photo of Bela Lugosi playin' steel?

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