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Topic: Shobud lap steel
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tbhenry
Member From: Trenton GA USA
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posted 02 March 2005 02:27 PM
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Bobbe,I agree with you. If the all the hardware is Sho bud, and the maple is the type used by Sho bud, it would seem that the most natural thing to do would be to call it a Sho~bud, and put a shobud label on it!!! |
Dan Tyack
Member From: Seattle, WA USA
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posted 02 March 2005 04:15 PM
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ShoBob?------------------
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Al Terhune
Member From: Newcastle, WA
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posted 02 March 2005 08:03 PM
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I posted on this forum a number of pictures of the 8-string Sho Bud lap Bobbe built me about five-six years ago. Beautiful, flamed maple. Mine is dated (stenciled into the wood) on the bottom: 11/22/61, and is numbered 08. Its obvious use, well, to me, by Shot was as a lap steel. |
Darryl Hattenhauer
Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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posted 04 April 2006 12:06 AM
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How do Sho Bud table steels compare in timbre to a Sho Bud Professional?------------------
"Drinking up the future, and living down the past"--unknown singer in Phoenix |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 06 April 2006 09:49 AM
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Darryl, every bit as good sounding, possibly better since there is no mechanical "dampining" from mechanics under the guitar. As a matter of fact I just moved thousands of Sho-Bud parts into a newly rented building with the possible intention of assembaling a few more Sho-Bud lap steels. All with 100% original Sho-Bud parts. Bobbe |
Darryl Hattenhauer
Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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posted 06 April 2006 10:00 PM
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John,Could you give this newbie a few basics about your quad 10? Do you have to be Arnold Schwarzenegger to lift it? Or Wilt Chaimberlain to play the outside neck? ------------------
"Drinking up the future, and living down the past"--unknown singer in Phoenix |
Darryl Hattenhauer
Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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posted 07 April 2006 10:41 AM
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Bobbe,Maybe a Sho-Bud table steel would sound too much like my Professional. I do prefer the Sho Bud sound, because that's what reminds me of my favorite style: the 50's and 60's crew of Emmons, Mooney, Day, Green, Drake, etc. Lately, though, I've thought about also getting a table steel for the 40s sound I heard as a kid: Vance Terry (on the radio every day) Speedy West, Joaquin Murphey, Noel Boggs, Leon McAuliffe, Herb Remington, Don Helms. But I suppose a stringmaster would get closer to that sound than a Sho Bud table, right? |
Darryl Hattenhauer
Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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posted 11 April 2006 10:10 PM
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Bobbe.
Regarding those old Sho Bud components you have, are all of the bodies maple? |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 11 April 2006 10:23 PM
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Bodys are all maple that I have for the original Sho-Buds. As to steel guitars of the forties and fifties, there was no particular tone or sound that covered it all. All brands sounded different. Bigsby was very different, and great. Rickenbacher was great, but different, National, Supro, Gibson, Fender and all guitars were all different from each other Darryl. ACTUALLY, MUCH MORE DIFFERENCES THAN THE STEEL GUITARS OF TODAY ARE. (didn't mean to yell, Ha! Ha!)
The Fender line had a lot of tone variation even within the same brand models. Stringmasters, and the different models of Stringmasters, Triple Customs, Duel Professionals etc. The 26' stringmasters sounded much different than the shorter ones. I like them.
Bobbe
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BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 11 April 2006 10:26 PM
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Darryl, "Table steel?" I like it! Mine is a "chair steel".
Is a pedal steel a "Table steel"? |
Darryl Hattenhauer
Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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posted 11 April 2006 10:45 PM
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Thanks to Al Marcus, I now know that they even had Vegas. Most of my favorite 40s into about mid 50s stuff was on Fenders, but as you say there were as many different Fender steels as there would be Fender solid bodies. And even though a Bigsby is way different, I wonder how the heck Vance Terry got his Bigsby to sound that way. And I just found out that he played a Bigsby later with Jimmie Rivers, too. So i need to go back and really find out who was playing what, and with what amps. Especially, I need to find out more about customs. I know "table" isn't used much, but I'm going to revolutionize the world of steel guitar by spreading the word. I'll be riding on the bow of my yacht yelling, "I'm the king of the steel word!" (Well, maybe the mayor.) As I've seen people use it, "table" means the kind of non-pedal that isn't a lap. Of course, there's always somebody who is going to take a table steel off its legs, put it on a pedal steel that's covered with bubble wrap, and throw my whole idea out the window. (Or off the bow). |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 17 April 2006 10:35 PM
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Darryl;
It was quite a while ago, but; as I remember the Quad–10 body was about 18” or 20” across from front to back. It was 24” scale with Raised Fretboards and Wood from the tuning-end to the P/U-plate. The Tuning~Wells were similar to the SHO-BUD/Fender PSG's and were stamped Sho-Bud. The Roller~Nuts were like the Fender 2000. The P/U's were Dual~Coil. There were (8) Mini~Toggles on the end of the body. (2) for each neck. One toggle turned the neck ON/OFF and the other toggle was for the Dual~Coil. The bridges were Ribbed like the Professional, but; with rollers rather than fingers as best I can remember.The Front & Rear Aprons as well as the Necks were Burgundy/Mahogany Stained and the tops of each step were Natural. [Birdseye~Maple(?)] Every time I talk about this guitar I get that wish again that I could find it and buy it back! I've been trying to find it for quite a few years, but; no luck yet! At the time the guitar was built, Sho-Bud cases were built by the Hooper Trunk Co. on 2nd. No. and the work on my quad~case was done by Woody Woodell, who eventually bought the company. ------------------
“Big John”
a.k.a. {Keoni Nui}
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Darryl Hattenhauer
Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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posted 24 April 2006 12:09 AM
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John,How did your quad 10 sound compared to stringmasters? |
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