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Topic: MSA Lap Steel
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Joey Ace
Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 07 March 2005 04:31 PM
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Did anybody try the new MSA Lap Steels?What I saw and heard of them in Dallas was awesome. David posted pictures at http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum4/HTML/008000.html This is becoming a "Golden Age" for Steels. |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 07 March 2005 05:18 PM
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Allow me, Mr. Ace.....hey, all you need is a G, and you'd be a C6. 
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HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 07 March 2005 05:21 PM
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What's that? Ya' ain't had enough?
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Joey Ace
Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 07 March 2005 05:51 PM
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quote:
"all you need is a G, and you'd be a C6"
The name fit me well for my first 21 years, when I was A Minor.  |
Bill McCloskey
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posted 07 March 2005 06:04 PM
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I'm C6 just looking at these laps. Someone give me a dramamene. |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 07 March 2005 06:13 PM
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Bill, I don't know if you've ever been to these shows, but it is sooooooo tempting to want to buy everything that you see. There are just so many great builders of all things steel.Anyhow, look at the keyhead of the six string. Look at the sides right below strings 1 & 6. You can see the removable plates that enable you to add the tuners for the additional strings. |
Ed Altrichter
Member From: Schroeder, Minnesota, USA
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posted 13 March 2005 11:07 PM
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Any comments or input on these ? |
Bill McCloskey
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posted 14 March 2005 07:11 AM
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Just placed my order for a 12 string green MSA SuperSlide. I spoke with Reece on the phone: what a great person!Apparently, there has been a flood of orders just in the last week. I guess I'm not the only forum member who has an order in. |
James Quackenbush
Member From: Pomona, New York, USA
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posted 14 March 2005 07:53 AM
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Howard,
I see these additional plates, but the nut doesn't appear wide enough to handle 2 additional strings if they were added...Is the nut and integral part of the headstock, or can it be changed ?....Thanks, JimBill,
Yes , Reece is truely on of the finest people you would ever want to know in this business.... He's a gem .....Jim |
P Gleespen
Member From: Lakewood, OH USA (I miss Boston!)
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posted 14 March 2005 08:09 AM
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Any general ideas on the price range of these puppies? I looked on the MSA site, but couldn't find it. |
William Steward
Member From: Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands, B.W.I.
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posted 14 March 2005 08:56 AM
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To hear Maurice Anderson play that 12 string was worth the price of admission alone. The variety of extended chord voicings he could grab with the extra strings was amazing...after hearing him play it made me wonder who needs pedals anyway. |
Jeff Strouse
Member From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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posted 14 March 2005 08:57 AM
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Boy the string spacing looks much more comfortable on the six stringer as opposed to the 12! Nice feature on the tuners to be able to add two more strings...and the nut looks like it could accommodate the two extra strings on the ends, without making the spacing more narrow..[This message was edited by Jeff Strouse on 14 March 2005 at 09:04 AM.] |
Ron Randall
Member From: Dallas, Texas, USA
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posted 14 March 2005 07:24 PM
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I played the 12 string. The sound, the tone. The string spacing matches a 12 string MSA PSG. (11/32) The scale is shorter than a PSG my guess is about 22.5"? Slants were much easier than I thought possible, Because of the short scale I think.
The body is hollowed out. The neck is solid with a piece of aluminum sandwiched between the neck and the fret board.
My feeble memory says about $1800 for the 12 string.
I got the "want-to" real bad.Ron |
Bill McCloskey
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posted 14 March 2005 07:53 PM
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The price quoted me was not so steep. But I don't know if forum rules permit me to quote them. |
Dan Sawyer
Member From: Studio City, California, USA
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posted 14 March 2005 08:18 PM
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Wow! How very interesting. That bar sticking out the side sure looks like some sort of pitch changer. Appears to be connected to a spring inside the guitar. Anybody know about this? |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 14 March 2005 08:22 PM
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There's a kit available for adding strings. I don't quite know what that entails. If memory serves me correct, the nut on the 6 string was fixed. I guess you'll have to get this info straight from MSA. I know that the string spacing will become narrower once you add strings to the 6'er.There's an attachment that affixes to the bar. It's a hernia support. Hey, we're not as young as we used to be!  [This message was edited by HowardR on 14 March 2005 at 08:28 PM.]
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db
Member From: New Jersey
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posted 14 March 2005 08:40 PM
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I'm bewildered . . .
What is the "Arm" about?
It's a lot of engineering for what purpose?------------------
Dan Balde
U-12/8&5, S-7/D 3&1, S-6/E,A & G3
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Ron Randall
Member From: Dallas, Texas, USA
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posted 14 March 2005 10:23 PM
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The arm is to hold the steel away from you when playing standing with a strap. Notice the steel has strap buttons.
It is also predrilled/tapped for 3 legs.hope this helps(hernia support.ha!) Ron[This message was edited by Ron Randall on 14 March 2005 at 10:27 PM.] |
Reece Anderson
Member From: Keller Texas USA
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posted 15 March 2005 08:47 AM
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Thank each of you for your interest and questions. First of all may I say, although the SuperSlide design is completed, we are considering our options relative to the design for the “body separation” device which can be seen in the pictures posted as a retractable arm. Both the 6 to 8 string neck and the 9 to 12 string neck can be attached to the same guitar body, thereby providing a unique advantage for future options. The approximate weight of the Super Slide is 7 pounds. The string spacing on the 6 string is .425 at the bridge and .369 at the nut. Should a 7th string be added the string spacing remains the same. If an 8th string is added the spacing is very slightly narrowed to .384 and .339 at the nut. On the 10 string neck the string spacing is .375 at the bridge and .312 at the nut. Should 12 strings be added, the string spacing is .344 at the bridge (which is common on most pedal steel guitars) and .284 at the nut. It’s possible to order the specific string spacing desired on either the 6 or 10 string neck. In addition the spacing can be easily changed when and if desired by changing out the “string thru” block and the nut. The prices mentioned on this forum for the SuperSlide and soft case, are considerably over estimated. For pricing quotes you may contact me through the MSA website address. www.msapedalsteels.com We at MSA appreciate your interest and invite your questions.
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Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 15 March 2005 01:29 PM
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Reece,Hi and greetings from the left coast! Nice work, guy, looks very cool. CF |
John Bushouse
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posted 15 March 2005 01:55 PM
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The body separation unit just LOOKS like it should be some sort of a string bender - not because one is necessary, but because it looks so cool.
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Ron Whitfield
Member From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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posted 15 March 2005 01:59 PM
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What kind of tuners are used? |
Ed Altrichter
Member From: Schroeder, Minnesota, USA
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posted 17 March 2005 08:39 AM
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How does the SuperSlide sound and handle in comparison to some others; say, Rickenbacker, Sierra, etc ? |
Reece Anderson
Member From: Keller Texas USA
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posted 17 March 2005 02:26 PM
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Chuck F....Thank you for your comment!Ron W....The SuperSlide has Sperzel tuning keys! Ed A....For a non biased opinion on the sound, go to Events & Announcements and read the thread called MSA SuperSlide and see Randy Beavers comments! |
Bill Brummett
Member From: Greensburg, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 19 March 2005 08:13 PM
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I briefly tried out both the 6 and 12 string at the Dallas show.Beautifully done instrument. Great sustain and tone. Real quality. Not sure about the prices, though. They seem a little steep. Seems like thay quoted something in the 1200 to 1300 range for the 6 stringer. Herb Remington in Houston makes a single neck lap steel 6, 8, or 10 string that comes close to this sound for a lot less $$$. BTW, the "ARM" in the picture must be part of the stand they were on. There was nothing like that on the guitars that I noticed. But then, I was not looking at the bottom of them, so I could be wrong!! [This message was edited by Bill Brummett on 19 March 2005 at 08:14 PM.] [This message was edited by Bill Brummett on 19 March 2005 at 08:16 PM.]
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Ed Altrichter
Member From: Schroeder, Minnesota, USA
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posted 20 March 2005 05:17 AM
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Are the Remingtons as good as this one, really ? |
Bill McCloskey
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posted 20 March 2005 06:07 AM
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Ed, There is really only one way of finding out: personal experience. Only you are going to be able to discover this (especially since the Superslide's are so new). Either buy both and compare side by side and sell the one you don't like. Or wait a year until the Texas guitar show and check them out first hand. |
Aaron Schiff
Member From: Cedaredge, CO, USA
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posted 21 March 2005 11:48 AM
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I didn't notice any mention of the pickups so far in this thread. The guitars look gorgeous, but can anybody tell me anything about the pickups? |
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