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HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 01 May 2005 07:32 PM     profile   send email     edit
What a great day this has been! We've been waiting for the workshop for a few months now, and I've been hyping it like Cal Worthington....anyone remember him?

So, the stage was set....

someone suggested that I be on it



[This message was edited by HowardR on 01 May 2005 at 07:42 PM.]

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 01 May 2005 07:45 PM     profile   send email     edit
No class is complete without show & tell


L>R Bobby Wolfe custom mahogany, Benoit 7 w pegbender, The Weissenater, Benoit Koa

Steels...Sierra S12, Hamos S8, Marrs Cat Can

[This message was edited by HowardR on 01 May 2005 at 07:49 PM.]

Jeff Au Hoy
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From: Honolulu, Hawai'i

posted 01 May 2005 07:59 PM     profile   send email     edit
I saw Cal Worthington appearing in California commercials up till about 2 years ago. Is he still around? I know Spot isn't.
Mike D
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From: Phx, Az

posted 01 May 2005 08:08 PM     profile   send email     edit
"I'll stand upon my head, till me ears are turnin' red, go see Cal, go see Cal, go see Cal!"
Man it's been a long time since I heard that name.

I guess that markerboard proves that Howard is the real King of Queens!

Looks like it was too fun for words!

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Half-assed bottleneck and lap slide player. Full-assed Builder of resonator instruments.

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 01 May 2005 08:09 PM     profile   send email     edit
Jeff, I haven't seen him since I left California in 1976. Must have been some sight though.....what a loon....and a smart one at that.
HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 01 May 2005 08:12 PM     profile   send email     edit
Yep, it was fun, great group, terrific instruction....couldn't have worked out better.....



[This message was edited by HowardR on 01 May 2005 at 08:15 PM.]

Bill McCloskey
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From:

posted 01 May 2005 08:21 PM     profile   send email     edit
Man, forget the Slide Off. Wait to you guys see the great Sew Off.

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 01 May 2005 08:23 PM     profile   send email     edit
Bill, they will have to wait....I'm hittin' the sack. It's been a long day & I'm beat.

To be continued.........

Bill McCloskey
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From:

posted 01 May 2005 08:25 PM     profile   send email     edit
Howard,

You deserve the rest.

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 02 May 2005 04:22 AM     profile   send email     edit
Dan Balde demonstrating his palm pedal equiped dobro



Very cool, takes some getting used too. This is well built and smooth operating. Dan is even planning to improve on it.

Keep us posted.

[This message was edited by HowardR on 02 May 2005 at 04:23 AM.]

Joey Ace
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From: Southern Ontario, Canada

posted 02 May 2005 08:53 AM     profile   send email     edit
Kudos on organizing the event, HR!
Wish I could have been there. Thanks for the Pix.

I lived in Southern Califonia in the early 80s.
I remember Cal W well, (and Elvira Mistress of the Dark, before her fame.) Those two made TV worth watching.

[This message was edited by Joey Ace on 02 May 2005 at 08:56 AM.]

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 02 May 2005 10:26 AM     profile   send email     edit
Joey, it would have been a hop, skip, & jump for you, after all, we had a fellow who came in from Ireland for this class. True.

Jim also came around to each for some individual instruction and attention.


At one point, Jim asked for a volunteer to come out and play something. Fellow Forumite (Fo' Bro') Gerald Menke was the brave soul who put himself on the line and played "Crazy".

Jim then dissected the tune in depth and demonstrated throughout each part how it could be played better, more creatively, and professionally.


[This message was edited by HowardR on 02 May 2005 at 10:29 AM.]

Daryl Brooke
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From: LI, New York

posted 02 May 2005 12:56 PM     profile   send email     edit
"Hats off" to Howard for organizing this wonderful event! It was great fun and just a fantastic day meeting everyone.

Jimmy Heffernan is as good a teacher as he is a player.

A super day!

db
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From: New Jersey

posted 02 May 2005 07:20 PM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
"Hats off" to Howard

"Good one" Daryl !

It was a "Million Dollar" event . . .
Thanks to Jim for the "name-sake" - Lick - !
And all of the other great insights into the "secrets" of playing 'good' Dobro.

I hope that something like this could happen again !
NYC is very assessable . . .
(If there is not a bike race down 6th Ave.)
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Dan Balde
U-12/8&5, S-7/D 3&1, S-6/E,A & G3

[This message was edited by db on 02 May 2005 at 09:00 PM.]

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 02 May 2005 08:51 PM     profile   send email     edit
Yes, this was a very positive experience for all. I would be agreeable to host another one sometime late Nov./early Dec.

I would also be inclined to host other related workshops if there were interest.

Slide Off to follow tomorrow.

[This message was edited by HowardR on 02 May 2005 at 08:53 PM.]

Daryl Brooke
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From: LI, New York

posted 03 May 2005 02:31 PM     profile   send email     edit
Howard - count me in for any resonator or pedal steel workshop. Thanks!
Dave Burr
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From: Tyler, TX

posted 03 May 2005 03:02 PM     profile   send email     edit
Howard, It's tomorrow!


Respectfully,
Dave Burr

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 03 May 2005 05:17 PM     profile   send email     edit
The Great Manhattan Slide Off


"This ain't no cutting contest!"


HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 03 May 2005 05:36 PM     profile   send email     edit
David Yanuzzi brought his Asher Ben Harper...thanks David.



Now that is some fine sounding steel. It is everything that's it's cracked up to be. Ouch!

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 03 May 2005 07:30 PM     profile   send email     edit
Bill, surfing on his Georgie Board




James Quackenbush checking out the Super Slide

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 04 May 2005 04:42 AM     profile   send email     edit
more to follow........
Jody Carver
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From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever

posted 04 May 2005 04:53 AM     profile     edit
Howard
You didnt invite me WHY?? I'm offendered

Yus.

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 04 May 2005 06:19 AM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
I'm ofFENDERed


See folks, he just can't help himself!

Jody Carver
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From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever

posted 04 May 2005 07:17 AM     profile     edit
Gerald Menke
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From: Brooklyn, NY, USA

posted 04 May 2005 07:58 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thanks to both Howard and Jim for such a great event, I learned so much and felt very inspired after hearing/watching Jim play all day...here it is Wednesday and I've almost got the "million dollar lick" together, albeit at only about 130 bpm.

Jim is a patient teacher who really knows how to communicate the information, I'll never forget his critique of the most nervous version of "Crazy Arms" every played...I've played for thousands in various bands, but I don't think I was ever as nervous as I was playing in front of 13 dobro guys. Jim made great helpful suggestions, especially on vibrato, that bit about using the whole arm is deep, bro.

Look forward to the next one!

Gerald

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 04 May 2005 09:37 AM     profile   send email     edit
Well, I'm into the first $50,000.00 of the "million dollar lick" I have the feeling that mine is going to sound like it after taxes!


That was "Crazy Arms"?.....

I thought it was "Crazy"
I guess it did need a little work, then again, I need A LOT of ear training!

Glad you got a lot out of it as did everyone with whom I've spoken.

Again, I'm open to another probably after Thanksgiving, and any other workshop that may be of interest.

Any local or non local proficient players of pedal, non pedal, ukulele, mandolin, OR TRI CONE ( ) ......let me know about teaching, either in a formal or informal way. Could also be just a get together to hone skills. I'm open. From a few attendees up to 15 is fine.

The conclusion of the Slide Off, both in visuals and verbiage, will conclude this evening. You'll have to tape American Idol....

[This message was edited by HowardR on 04 May 2005 at 09:43 AM.]

Rick Aiello
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From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 04 May 2005 11:01 AM     profile   send email     edit
No doubt about it, Howard ... you sure know how to Milk a Thread ...


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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 04 May 2005 at 11:05 AM.]

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 04 May 2005 12:35 PM     profile   send email     edit
ROTFLMAO
Larry Robbins
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From: Fort Edward, New York, USA

posted 04 May 2005 03:40 PM     profile   send email     edit
Wow great pics ! Sorry I had to miss that workshop.BTW, our friend Brad Higgins says, hey!
HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 04 May 2005 04:07 PM     profile   send email     edit
Wild Bill wailin' on the Weissenator.....



I never plug in my acoustics when I play in my apartment since there's no need. I had forgotten how the Weiss sounded plugged in. Powerful!


Ok, down to the nuts & bolts of this thing.....

notice the pen. I'm always ready to take an order



[This message was edited by HowardR on 04 May 2005 at 04:12 PM.]

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 04 May 2005 04:33 PM     profile   send email     edit
What's that last picture Howard? Is that how you get baby steel guitars?

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association

HowardR
Member

From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 04 May 2005 04:51 PM     profile   send email     edit
Well, we didn't call it a Slide Off for nothing!

So, we had the Asher S6, a Fry Pan Tradewind S6 (very nicely made wooden pan), a Harmos S8, a GeorgeBoards S8, the Sierra S12, & the MSA Super Slide S12.

There was not a steel present that you would not be happy, if not thrilled to play. There was nothing less than above average quality all around.

The general concenses.....the Asher Ben Harper is a gorgeous, well made guitar. It has a variety of tone, on the bright side but good midrange, and bass. It really cuts and is everything everyone says it to be. I would not hesitate to buy one of these.

A few years ago I saw Bill Frissell in concert with Greg Leisze (sp?) who played an Asher (6) and a National Dynamic (8). I was not impressed at that time with the Asher. Perhaps it was the acoustics. I don't know, but the Asher in person, wow! David, congrats on that one. Glad you brought it by.


The MSA and the Sierra are both top of the line. Both very well made, well engineered with attention to detail, and everything, piece & part made for a reason. Both strikingly, visually appealing.

We set the Nashville 122 to mid points on all of the settings. Both steels were tuned to Maurice Anderson's 12 string C6. We all took turns playing and testing. At these settings, the Super Slide had a brighter sound and tone. The Sierra, a deeper, darker tone.

I turned up the treble and backed off on the bass. This brought up brightness to the Sierra and of course more brightness to the Super Slide which didn't need it.

The advantage went to the better string separation of the Super Slide. The bottom 5 strings of the Sierra seemed to roll into one another. No matter how the settings were tweaked, we just couldn't get that crisp separation that the MSA has.

I do prefer the string spacing of the Sierra as I'm more used to a wider spacing, and a pedal steeler would be more used to the spacing of the MSA. The sustain on both are excellent. I would opt for different pick ups on the Sierra to obtain that separation and eliminate the muddiness in the lower register.

So, the Asher Ben Harper and the MAS Super Slide was the preference of all involved in the Slide Off. If you had those two, you'd never have to leave the house, just have food (& beer) delivered.


[This message was edited by HowardR on 04 May 2005 at 04:57 PM.]

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 04 May 2005 05:10 PM     profile   send email     edit
The Sensational Sew Off



Alright, on this one, Bill couldn't hold a candle to me. The Pfaff outsewed the Singer!

The Pfaff is a quiet, and accurate machine. Although it has less traction out of the hole, even with various feeders, it runs smoother and underpinning is a rarity.

Bill had a difficult time keeping his tension consistant. Although his straight stitch was smooth and even, he experienced some gathering (in his shorts I think).

Mike Neer
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From: NJ

posted 04 May 2005 05:49 PM     profile   send email     edit
Now I know what the aluminum arm on the Super Slide is for--it's for the horizontally challenged.
Reece Anderson
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From: Keller Texas USA

posted 05 May 2005 04:07 AM     profile     edit
HowardR....Congratulations for having such a great show. Everyone in every picture looked like they were enjoying themselves. I'm sure it will only get bigger.

Needless to say, I appreciate you comments concerning the SuperSlide.

Regarding your comment concerning string spacing....the SuperSlide is designed to be changed quickly to most any string spacing desired.

HowardR
Member

From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 05 May 2005 06:21 AM     profile   send email     edit
Maurice, you certainly have all of the bases covered then. With all of the available configurations and options, everyone can have whatever suits them in one single steel.

Bravo.


Looking forward, hopefully we can have another Jim Heffernan workshop in the late fall as I mentioned. Along with that, "Slide Off II". Perhaps a Fender Stringmaster theme. All configurations of Stringmasters, single, double, triple, quad, & all 3 scales to compare. Also, a "Dustpan Debut" along with the Remmington Steelmaster. Maybe we can get Jody down for that....

Who knows what lies ahead? Madison Square Garden? Pay Per View?

Rick Aiello
Member

From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 05 May 2005 08:12 AM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
"Dustpan Debut" .... Madison Square Garden?

Have it at Scores ... and me and my new model ... the Boobpan ... will be there.

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Aiello's House of Gauss


My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 05 May 2005 12:32 PM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
Have it at Scores


if they let me back in.....

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