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Topic: Post- NY Dobro Workshop Syndrome
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Hiro Keitora Member From: New York, New York
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posted 03 May 2005 05:03 PM
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Well, well, well...First off, my "hat" tipps to HowardR for that wonderfull workshop. As many of you who attended the workshop found out that I showed up with an old, ('29) National Tricone like a fool... Well, that's all I have as far as a "resonator" guitar goes...And I hadn't made too much music out of that thing anyway, so I figured it was a great opportunity to "fool around" with this baby.And sure enough, I put a day's worth of TLC in to it. Anyway, ever since that wonderfull Sunday, I've been thinking of getting me a "wood" Dobro...But the Tone I'm hearing in my head is not the "Punchy", "bright, clear and cut through" type of Dobro that everyone loves... I'm looking for more of, say, mellow, sweet, (if not mushy), not too loud, kinda tired sounding Dobro...What's in my mind is that the Dobro sound in the First album of Iris Dement( for the songs like "My town" or "Let the mystery be"). I'm leaning towards old, like '30's Mahogany Dobro with rather "tired" cone... but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Is there anyone out there have a Dobro with this kind of Tone( or characteristic) for this sick pop??? And can a "sick pop" be able to afford it??? Since that Sunday, I'm having a problem sleeping well because I hear this "illusive" Dobro sound...Please, someone guide me through the "12 steps" of it...  |
HowardR Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 03 May 2005 06:26 PM
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quote: ), not too loud, kinda tired sounding Dobro.
Hiro, it was good to see you again.
You might want to check out the Regals, Johnsons, and any other low end dobro. Don't upgrade the cone, nut, & saddle, and that might be your ticket. Of course if you can find an old dobro and try it out, that's another avenue. Actually, come to think of it, every year that I've been to Jazz Fest New Orleans, there's been this guitar/banjo builder who also builds dobros, although I've only seen one. Every year he has this same dobro. It's built out of plywood, it's a cherry color and boy, does it sound tired. It is mellow and the sustain I can only describe as "blunt." His name is Eddie Ortiz I believe. I bet you could get it for a very good price as nobody has ever bought it. This may be your huckleberry. |
Hiro Keitora Member From: New York, New York
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posted 03 May 2005 07:22 PM
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Thanks, man!! but, Ah-,,, I'm not looking for "useless" Dobro sound! :>Just like we come home in the end of the day looking shot and feeling much worse than been shot, but we all strike conversation with our loved ones and hold kids or dogs or whatever comes out to welcome you. That's the kind of Dobro I'm looing for( I think. ) All in all, my National is much, much, easier and sweeter to deal with, than ah, my girlfriend... |
Jeff Strouse Member From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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posted 03 May 2005 08:00 PM
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I'll drink to that, Hiro!  |
Andre Nizzari Member From: Bronx, New York
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posted 04 May 2005 02:51 AM
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mellower, less sustain, less punch,& attack........I think a "regular" acoustic guitar has those qualities compared to a single cone resophonic. Well maybe not the sustain. I go back and forth from both types of guitars; my national delphi and martin D-15, I keep both in open D.------------------ http://www.andreandthenighthounds.com/ |
Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA
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posted 04 May 2005 02:54 AM
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Hiro-the sound you are looking for can be had from a pre-war wooden dobro-and you can find one in decent shape that would cost less than replacing your '29 National tricone.What could cost less yet than a pre-war would be an O.M.I. Dobro from the 60's to 80's-in other words before Gibson took over the company in I believe 1993. These are much better-built guitars than these modern imported Regals. The bright, clear, punchy sound of many modern resonator guitars comes from the Quarterman cone that is in most of your higher end instruments. The old stamped cone on one of mine, a 1932 Dobro, and the shallow body shape gives it the sweet, mellow tone. ------------------ Mark
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Hiro Keitora Member From: New York, New York
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posted 04 May 2005 07:19 PM
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Hummmm....Yeah, man. So I need to go after "wooden" and "shallow" body with stamped cone.... Anyone wants to part with something like that??? |
Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA
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posted 05 May 2005 09:14 AM
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Hiro-I think there is a guitar that is probably still for sale that would be right up your alley. Check the For Sale section at http://reso-nation.org. A fellow named David from New Jersey has a really nice Dobro by Regal Model 45 from the 1930's for sale. It has had upgrade work by fellow Forumite Gregg McKenna, an excellent resonator builder. It has the modern Quarterman cone in it-but if you really want the "mellower" sound maybe David has the original cone. For that matter, Quarterman makes a replacement cone that is close to the original pre-war design. If you heard it with a new Quarterman you may not want to change it anyway.Before WWII Dobro worked hand-in-hand with Regal on these things. No relation to the current Regal brand which is owned by Saga and has their instruments imported from Asia. The pre-war model 45's are considered some of the best going of the old Dobros. If I had endless cash I'd buy this one but alas, I don't. I have no clue what he's asking for it but he has some nice photos at the reso-nation website. ------------------ Mark
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Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA
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posted 08 May 2005 03:16 PM
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Hiro-are you alive and kickin'?Found another guitar for sale that would work for you. A Dobro 1937 Model 25 with F-holes, for sale by a guy named Russ. Also in the Sale/Wanted section of http://reso-nation.org If you want that classic, traditional dobro sound-these two guitar ads are the ticket. No time like now! Here on the Forum a guy had an O.M.I. Dobro from the '80's for about $1,200-if memory serves. I would be curious what the two Dobros from the 1930's are selling for. ------------------ Mark
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Gregg McKenna Member From: South Windsor, Connecticut, USA
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posted 08 May 2005 06:30 PM
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I have a nice old circa 1930 model 55 Dobro with the thinner California body. Has the origional stamped cone and all the origional hardware. Has just the sound you're looking for. Email me if you might be interested[This message was edited by Gregg McKenna on 08 May 2005 at 06:32 PM.]
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Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA
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posted 08 May 2005 07:54 PM
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Sounds like a beauty, Gregg. Hiro-ask and you shall receive.------------------ Mark
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Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA
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posted 08 May 2005 07:55 PM
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Just out of curiosity,Gregg, what is the serial number on that guitar?------------------ Mark
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Hiro Keitora Member From: New York, New York
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posted 09 May 2005 05:36 AM
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Gregg, I just sent you a mail. | |