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Topic: One Dead Note?
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Archie Nicol
Member From: Ayrshire, Scotland
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posted 28 March 2006 03:10 PM
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I recently purchased a Goldtone Paul Beard Signature Deluxe.
I am happy with the build quality and general volume and tone of the guitar.
But, on the bottom three strings, the `E` at the 2nd, 5th and 9th frets is `dead`.
Either side of each fret it is fine. I don't know much about resonators, so I'd like to ask if there is some way of rectifying this problem?
Thanks, in anticipation.
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Mitch Druckman
Member From: Arizona, USA
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posted 28 March 2006 05:17 PM
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My first suggestion would be to replace the string. A bad string can cause a variety of problems. Maybe replacing it will help. |
Jennings Ward
Member From: Edgewater, Florida, USA
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posted 28 March 2006 11:04 PM
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ARCH, STRINGS CAN AND WILL GIVE YOU PRBLEMS,
IF NEW STRINGS DONT WORK, TRY ADJUSTING THE SCREW IN THE SPIDER/ CONE, EVER SO SLIGHTLY..
DO THIS WITH THE STRINGS LOSSE.. DO NOT GO OVER A QUARTER TURN IN EITHER DIRECTION,, DOSO IN
1/16 OF A TURN...SHOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE...IN VOLUME, TONE , ECT:: BUT BE CAREFUL, DO NOT RUIN THE CONE...IF THIS DONT WORK, A CONE REPLACEMENT IS IN ORDER....A SPUN QUARTERMAN CONE SI SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST...
HOPE I WAS SOME HELP..........JENNINGS,,,U PK;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;------------------
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Jennings Ward
Member From: Edgewater, Florida, USA
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posted 28 March 2006 11:08 PM
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P.S. ARCH, CHECK THE NUT AND SADDLE .. MAKE
SURE THEY ARE NOT DAMAGED,, USE MAGNFIYING
GLASS.........JW.....SHOULD BE BONE NUT, AND EBONY, MAPLE SADDLE...........JW.;;;;;;;;;;;;------------------
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Archie Nicol
Member From: Ayrshire, Scotland
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posted 29 March 2006 02:06 AM
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Thanks,JW. It seems strange that it is just one note(E) on the three different strings.
Would that point to cone rather than strings?
Cheers, Arch. |
Steinar Gregertsen
Member From: Arendal, Norway
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posted 29 March 2006 03:13 AM
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I don't have a reso so I can't say for sure, but it sounds like it responds badly to that specific frequency, and to me that indicates that it may be a cone issue. Steinar ------------------
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Keith Cordell
Member From: Atlanta
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posted 29 March 2006 03:24 AM
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There is a product available from Groove Tubes called a Fatfinger. It is essentially a clamp that adds weight to the headstock and produces more even vibrations across the strings. I have been using them for years on guitars with dead spots and they really work. If you want to try one they sell for about $15 and are widely available. |
basilh
Member From: United Kingdom
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posted 29 March 2006 03:50 AM
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Arch, try dropping the guitar pitch down a semitone and see if it's still the 'E's'
Are you at 440 or 442 ?
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Bill Hatcher
Member From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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posted 29 March 2006 05:26 AM
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All instruments have a resonant frequency of the body. If none of the above advice works, then you might just have a guitar with the body frequency close to the E that you are having trouble with. What happens is when you play the E, the body is vibrating close to that pitch and cancelling out the note. On some instruments, all the notes close to that frequency will be a little duller or just plain dead in the worst scenario. The classic case of resonant frequency is on Fender basses. On the G string there is a dead spot between C and D. |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 29 March 2006 07:30 AM
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If one of the little lengths of string between the nut and the tuning key is a musical note, it can resonate through the body and cause a dead sound on the "real" note. You can fix this by putting rubber grommets between the strings in the keyhead to deaden them. |
Tom Taylor
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 29 March 2006 08:18 AM
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Archie,
This could be a problem with the contact between the spider bridge and the cone. The fact that it's the same note on different strings tells me it probably is. The note probably buzzes a little, as opposed to ringing. Check with a luthier if you can.------------------
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Ray Shakeshaft
Member From: Kidderminster, Worcs, UK.
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posted 29 March 2006 08:45 AM
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I wrote to National about a dead note on my reso uke (Okay it is a uke not a guitar but our problems are similar). Don wrote back and suggested changing strings. I have since had similar advice from a number of reso players so it seems it is worth a try before going into 'major surgery'. |
Jennings Ward
Member From: Edgewater, Florida, USA
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posted 29 March 2006 12:26 PM
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ARCH, AFTER ALL ELSE FAILS, DUE TO COST OF CONE, IT VERY WELL COULD BE THE CONE....BUT BY ALL MEANS , CHECK THE NUT AND SADDLE VERY CAREFULLY WHEN YOU CHANGE STRINGS,,[ USE DIFFERENT BRAND OF STRINGS ]] I HAVE HAD OCASIONS , NOT MANY, BUT A CONE WOULD BE DEAD AS A DOOR NAIL IN ONE INSTRUMENT, AND PERFECT IN ANOTHER...JUST A PAIN IN THE KEESTER TO CHANGE THM....LABOR....SEND ME AN E MAIL,
DETAILING YOUR COMPLAINT,, AND I WILL DISCUSS IT WITH A COUSIN OF MIND THAT BUILD PROFESSIONAL QUALITY RESENATOR INSTRUMENTS
AND GET BACK TO YOU WITH HIS RECOMENDATIONS.. WISH I COULD BE OF MORE HELP..... JENNINGS,,, U PK;;;;;;;;;;------------------
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Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 29 March 2006 01:17 PM
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listen to the notes on the strings behind the bridge, I bet ones an E |
Archie Nicol
Member From: Ayrshire, Scotland
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posted 29 March 2006 02:35 PM
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Thanks, All.
The guitar is only two months old, so I hope it would be covered by warranty for a dodgy cone. Bobby and Chuck. I checked the notes above the bridge and below the nut.
The fourth string is an E above the bridge and the sixth is an E below the nut. I deadened all the stings below the nut and it solved the problem. The E was of equal volume and clarity as the rest of the lower strings. At the moment the band only does three songs featuring reso'. One is in E and another is in A, so this has been a great help.
Thanks again, everybody. This place is the best.
Cheers, Arch. |
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