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marty e unregistered Posts: 148 |
posted 09 October 1999 07:25 AM
i have a D-10 pro-2 custom, wide pedals,double raise single lower, serial # 8800 and another # 1-A-3 stamped on the end plate. can anyone tell me the year, it has 8 pedals 4 knees, any info on this guitar would be grate! thanks marty engel |
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Duane Becker Member Posts: 382 |
posted 09 October 1999 08:22 AM
Marty, I'm looking at some old Sho-Bud catalogs and info that I've gathered about the models. I'm sure that your guitar has the nylon tuners on the right end plate. Sho-Bud did use the brass tuning collars on the early Pro series and then on the later(newer) Pro-series guitars, they went to the nylon tuners at the end plate. Also you have the wide pedals. Assuming that the pedal bar is original with the guitar, this could be a sign that the guitar is an older model. Generally, the wide pedals were used first then the narrow style-but this may not always be the case. Some times the seriel number does not help too much, this may be one of those times. Is the top front finished corner rounded or more squared? Any other info you can give may be helpful. Are the knees rounded shaped or straight? Color? Thanks Duane Becker |
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marty e unregistered Posts: 382 |
posted 09 October 1999 08:55 AM
duane thanks for the reply, the front is square, the knees are the banana shape, the color is see thru red, i'm pretty sure everything is original, the guitar is in real good shape and the case is like new. hope this helps. thanks marty engel |
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Duane Becker Member Posts: 382 |
posted 09 October 1999 09:20 AM
Marty, I think I found your guitar in the 1976 Sho-Bud Catalog. I will type a little of what the catalog says: "Pro II Custom-double neck-8 floor pedals-2 knee levers-wood neck. (1976)Retail Price:$1595" The guitar was listed with 2 knees, but the other 2 knees may have been added at the factory or added later. You most likely have single coil pickups, at that time the dual coil pickups were optional. The neck selector switch should operate either neck or both necks at the same time. So if you indeed have the nylon tuners at the right end plate and the squared front, its pretty safe to assume the guitar is a 1976 or a little later(1977-1978). Thanks Duane Becker |
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Joe Finley Member Posts: 53 |
posted 10 October 1999 06:35 AM
Marty, the 1A3 that is stamped on the inside of your endplate is what we used to identify which endplate went with which model of guitar. Any wide pedal guitar is before my date with ShoBud and that would be before 1980. Sounds about right on the date given by Duane. I have the same model built in 81. |
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Duane Becker Member Posts: 382 |
posted 10 October 1999 08:01 AM
Mr. Joe Finley, what years did you work with Sho-Bud? Thanks Duane |
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Joe Finley Member Posts: 53 |
posted 11 October 1999 11:23 AM
Duane I worked for shobud on two different occasions. Both were located in Conway Arkansas. They were between 1981 and 84. The first time was with the whole factory. They moved to De Queen Arkansas and I chose to be laid off and stay in Conway. The second time they called me back and I was the only one there. We were located on the east side of the Baldwin piano plant. At first they wanted me to just build the LDG model and then they decided to change the Maverick from the old style to a new one which was laquer and red. So I built those for awhile until they walked in one day and said pack it up its all going to South Carolina. Oh well it was fun but I stayed here in Arkansas instead. Alot of the stuff was in a garage located in Magazine Arkansas at Gene Haugh's place. For awhile he was building one on occasion. I have not seen him in awhile so I dont know. |
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Patrick Smith Member Posts: 747 |
posted 12 October 1999 08:03 AM
Joe, Gene rebuilt my Pro II in about 1992-93. When I took it to him he was building Sho Buds in the back of the Mosrite factory (an old Wal Mart I think), but when I picked it up several months later, all the sho bud stuff was in his shop behind his house in Magazine. I talked to him less than a year ago and he said that no one was making Sho Buds and that Ed Naylor had all the parts now, but Ed can straighten me out on that part of it. I've heard here on the forum that Sho Buds are still being built, I just don't have a clue as to who's building them. Man, Gene certainly knew his way around a Sho Bud, mine was incredible when he got done with it! PMS |
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Joe Finley Member Posts: 53 |
posted 12 October 1999 11:18 AM
Patrick Your correct, the Mosrite factory was in Boonville in an old Walmart. Gene has a history with quite a few instrument manufactoring. He started with Baldwin in Boonville years ago building guitars,banjos, Gretzch drums and then wound up in Conway with Shobud then to De Queen and then back with Gretzch on the east coast and then came home to work with Mosrite and build a few steels. Gene hired me with Baldwins and Yasoo was also working there. It was truly injoyable to work. We spent our lunch time playing steel together. I never figured Baldwin out though. I have worked for them also building pianos and organs but they had a bycycle engineer on staff to tell us how to build guitars. He and the plant manager didnt have a clue about music or a musical instrument. They were more interested in turning out quanity rather than quality. They didnt want us to set aside a steel that the endplates didnt fit. We got a call one day from a player that couldnt figure out why he couldnt play in tune. So he shipped the guitar back to us and we found the problem, the scale was wrong on the guitar. Oh well I could go on. I play a Pro II that was built in 81 and it needs some work know but hey Im like the mechanic whos car never runs. Thanks Joe |
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Patrick Smith Member Posts: 747 |
posted 12 October 1999 01:37 PM
Joe, Boonville is exactly right!...I couldn't think of the name to save my life.... While I have you here, I have a sho bud question. My Pro II that Gene rebuilt with all the superpro mechanisms originally was sort of the go between betwixt the old style bird cage mechanisms and the nylon tuner/cross shaft mechanisms. It had cross shafts and rod pullers that had these little brass things attached that the rod went through, it pushed one of the older brass tuning collars. Also had the old style changers and aluminum fingers. What year would this in-between model have been made in? I'm guessing early '80's but that's just an uninformed guess. Thanks in advance for any info. PMS PS-is the Mosrite factory still there in Boonville? Gene told me that most of those guitars were shipped out to Japan. |
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