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Howard Montgomery
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posted 02 November 1999 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard Montgomery     
Can any one tell me about BMI guitars. I purchased one (s-10) new in 1990 and am thinking of selling. Where does it fit in the steel guitar food chain? It appears to have features not found on student models (3P/3K, raised neck, George L E-66, all-pull mechanism and Grover tuners) but also has what appears to be a plywood top, laminate (Formica) finish, and a sticker nameplate. Also, what would be a fair price to ask for the guitar. It is excellent condition with a case. Any info would be greatly appreciated.


Bobby Lee
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posted 03 November 1999 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
I had a BMI for a short time. It was much older than yours. I didn't like it much. I've heard that they produced some nice guitars, but the one I had was a lemon.

Here's a picture of me and that guitar in 1995:



As you can see, I wasn't too happy with it.

[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 11-03-99]



Richard Sinkler
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posted 04 November 1999 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Sinkler     
Dang b0b. You look pretty miserable there.

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Jon Light
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posted 04 November 1999 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jon Light     
I think the caption there is "Now what am I gonna do with you?!"

I have one of these also, from '84, I think. Got it as a 3+2, added two levers to it, has a Lawrence 705.
It was a great first guitar. The beauty of first guitars is that all you know is "I have a steel!!!" If I sold it I think I would ask around $800 and maybe come down closer to $600 if necessary.


Joe Hadden Jr
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posted 17 March 2000 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Hadden Jr     
well it doesn't look like much new around here ..... guess I'm kickin a dead goat when it comes to finding info on steels any more . (that and living in michigan where they are non existant ) Bob count yourself lucky you got one to play , I have to play a friend when and if he is home


Dan Sliter
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posted 17 March 2000 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Sliter     
I worked for Zane Beck of BMI for a few years an your right the top of the guitar is ply
with mica over it.
The price of the guitar is around $500.00 to $700.00 tops W/Case.
This guitar was build after i left the company but they have been building the same guitar for years now.No changes after Zane died.They are built in Scraton, Arkansas.
The S10 came with 3 Pedals 3 Knees.
I hope this was some help!!!!!!!!
Dan


Bill Rowlett
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posted 17 March 2000 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Rowlett     
Howard,

The BMI guitars were made by Zane Beck in Arkansas after he sold the ZB Company. Zane was not a Nashville style player and built the BIM's for a more mellow jazz tone. They have a unique flat crossbar design and it is easy to add levers. I think that parts may still be available from Don Fritchie@BMI Guitars Scranton,Ark.Zip Code 72863 Phone 501 938 2575, It is best to call him between 7:00 to 9:00 P.M.CST. Zane made keyless models as well as keyed instruments. Many better players such as Julian Tharpe played BMI guitars during the 80's. Because of the perceived tone issue, most BMI's are relegated to the first guitar mode now, but they are a full professional design and make excellent instruments. Zane used a unique tuning and many of the 4 pedal keyless models sold will have his tuning on them. Most that I have seen sell for $600 to $1000 depending on the model.

Hope this helps you,

Bill


Howard Montgomery
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posted 17 March 2000 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard Montgomery     
Gentlemen, thanks for the infomation. I have decided to sell it if anyone is interested or know of someone who is.


Jerry Hayes
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posted 17 March 2000 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry Hayes     
Hey Howard,
Sometimes on the Forum I refer to my "Psuedo Emmons" steel which is actually a BMI single 12 universal with 7 & 5. Mine looks almost exactly like the picture of b0b's but is a 12 string. I love this thing. The tone is great, the pedal action is good, it stays in tune, it doesn't break strings near as often as my old ShoBud did, and it's very sturdy. Changing pulls is very easy as you just unscrew a bellcrank and screw it back in wherever you want it. Mine has a very bright, and fat tone and sounds great in all kinds of music. It has the low Sperzel tuning pegs also. I'd get another one in a heartbeat.

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Have a good one! JH U-12


Glenn Suchan
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posted 17 March 2000 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glenn Suchan     
Howard,

About 8 years ago while I had my Emmons in the shop, I borrowed a friend's S-10 3P/3K BMI. It sounded O.K. (bear in mind my recollection is a comparison to a '70 Emmons PP). Aside from the fact that it had the "Day" set-up and I was playing the "Emmons" setup, it seemed very light-weight and had the tendency to "walk" away from me while I played. Especially when I would hit the RKR kneelever. I have a heavy foot when it comes to the pedals and it continues to this day. I guess that comes from playing the Emmons PP as my first real PSG. (Buddy once mentioned that his old '68 D10 was like "walking thru gravel"...that's a good'un, Buddy! )

Alot of great players have played BMI over the years and made them sound great (Joaquin Murphey, Herb Remmington, Zane Beck and more).

What ever you decide, I wish you good luck!

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn


Ronney Bailey
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posted 17 March 2000 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronney Bailey     
Bobby you look like you lost your best friend! Hey there not that bad! Some are better then others I'am sure but the one I had a S\10 with 3&4 in rose wood mica was great I really wish I still had it! I wound buy another one in a heart beat especialy if it was a D\10.


Terry Wood
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posted 17 March 2000 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Terry Wood     
Hi Howard,

I have played a lot of steel guitars and the best one I ever played is my 14 string BMI that Zane Beck and Don Fritsche built for me in 1984.

Some may have had bad experiences with BMI, but I never did. I can tell you that Zane Beck and Don didn't build junk. Yet, I never owned a student model guitar in my life, and maybe they weren't constructed as well. My guitar is built like a tank and it stays in tune better than any other steel I ever saw or heard.

Mellow tone? My steel doesn't sound mellow and never did. Of course I had Zane wind the pickups like Julian Tharpe's and I blew a Peavey Amp all to smither-reens at an Almont, CO ski resort.
I never again played through that particluar steel amp with "Blackie, my 14 string BMI," because the amp was history after that!

Zane Beck's BMI steels were played by Herb Remington, Speedy West (had two of them), Gary West (Speedy Jr.), Joaquin Murphy, Robbie Turner, Zane King, myself (since 1982), Julian Tharpe (He played 4 of them), Zane Beck and a lot more steel players.

Don Fritsche still builds them with either wood or mica. Don started working with Zane when he was in Jr, High School and he too knows the building of a great steel. He works as a fireman and does this on the side because he loves steel guitar. He like Zane is a great guy!

If you want to know what a great BMI sounds like you can still purchase some of Julian's, Zane Beck, Zane King or my tapes or CDs. I just cut a CD with 20 selections and it's called "Strings of Steel." It shows what Blackie can do.

Good luck with your sale and I recommend you contact Don Fritsche as Bill Rowlett suggested. By the way Faye still has Zane's keyless 12 stringer and it is probably going to be housed along with Speedy West's steel in the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame one day!

I hope this helped. God bless you!

Terry Wood

Still playing and loving Blackie the Big BMI after all these years!




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