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Matt Hutchinson Member Posts: 219 |
posted 22 February 2000 05:47 AM
I'm new to PSG & don't know too much about individual players. I bought the re-issue of the Byrds' Sweetheart of the Rodeo with the extra tracks & LLoyd Green's steel playing is amazing! Can anybody recommend other recordings featuring Lloyd Green for me to check out? Thanks guys. |
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scott murray Member Posts: 751 |
posted 22 February 2000 06:45 AM
Jay Dee Maness played the majority of the steel on 'Sweetheart'. I think it's him on all the bonus tracks. Of course, JayDee is the first to acknowldege Lloyd as a prime influence. Some of my favorite Lloyd Green recordings are the early Johnny Paycheck cuts on Lil Darlin. These have been issued on one CD called 'The Real Mr. Heartache'. Another is Charley Pride's 'Live at Panther Hall' from '68. One of the greatest albums EVER. In the rock field, he played on Paul McCartney's "Sally G" single, not sure which album. Also with a band called Briarpatch. I've never heard this, but according to Lloyd, he "never played better"... (anyone have this?!!!) Lloyd played on thousands of recordings. Pick up a country album from the 70s, and it's likely that he's on it. |
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Jay Jessup Member Posts: 345 |
posted 22 February 2000 10:26 AM
All these years I thought it was JD on all of the Sweetheart album, I am sure that it is him playing that signature lick that trapped most of us(in the 45 to 55 age bracket that is)into the sound of the steel guitar on "You Ain't Goin Nowhere". Does anybody know which tunes Lloyd played on? I guess I could pull the album out I might be able to tell the difference by the sound. [This message was edited by Jay Jessup on 22 February 2000 at 10:27 AM.] |
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Fred Murphy Member Posts: 669 |
posted 22 February 2000 11:25 AM
Ten Shades Of Green is a great album. |
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scott murray Member Posts: 751 |
posted 22 February 2000 11:25 AM
This is getting funny... Actually, according to Lloyd and JayDee, it is definitely Lloyd on "YAGN". That might be the only one with Mr. Green. It has a different sound to me than all the others on the album. ------------------ |
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Jeff Evans Member Posts: 554 |
posted 22 February 2000 03:42 PM
Matt: Very glad you're getting turned on to Lloyd. Please try to get ahold of three Epic label Ricky Skaggs albums from 1982, 1984, and 1986: Highways & Heartaches, Country Boy, and Love's Gonna Get Ya!. Gene Watson's 1978 recording of "Farewell Party" (the Capitol album is called Reflections) and the 1968 Charlie Pride Panther Hall live album (on RCA, it was titled In Person) are definitive Lloyd masterworks. Lloyd hooked me on the instrument--before I knew who he was or had seen a pedal steel. His mellower tone ('70s and '80s), smooth-yet-snappy attack, and fascinating phrasing are so pleasing...and so out of vogue today. Let us know what kind of luck you have finding some of this great music. ------------------ |
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Matt Hutchinson Member Posts: 219 |
posted 22 February 2000 04:57 PM
Thanks for putting me straight guys. To be honest I love all the steel playing on Sweetheart of the Rodeo but I now have some ideas for where to look for more of the same. Any further suggestions as to good albums to seek out greatly appreciated. |
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JB Arnold Member Posts: 1615 |
posted 22 February 2000 07:01 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw it posted here on the forum soem time ago that it was Lloyd on "Hickory Wind" from Sweetheart. Some one posted the tab, and a sound file. John ------------------ |
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ebb Member Posts: 1045 |
posted 22 February 2000 07:15 PM
This has the best LG I have heard outside of The Real Mr. Heartache http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001AYL/qid=951275580/sr=1-1/103-5806704-6247051 |
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Frank Parish Member Posts: 2327 |
posted 23 February 2000 12:12 AM
My favorites of Lloyd are Mr. Nashville Sound recorded probably late sixties or early seventies, Cool Steel Man around the same time and Lloyds of Nashville with all original tunes. He's probably the biggest influence of most of us who started playing the last twenty years or at least I think so. |
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Steve Hinson Member Posts: 1837 |
posted 23 February 2000 05:50 AM
Matt-try and get some old Warner Mack records-two of the really good tunes with Lloyd are"The Bridge Washed Out"and"I Might as Well Be Talking to the Wall"... |
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Jason Odd Member Posts: 2665 |
posted 23 February 2000 08:20 AM
Scott, you mentioned that Lloyd and Jay Dee, think it's Lloyd on "YAGN". And that it might be the only one with him. This would seem likely, as far as I know the session with Lloyd was at through Columbia Nashville and cut there in Nashville. By the way, the bonus instrumental on the end of the reissue CD, well according to some Byrds archivists it's Red Rhodes dueling with Clarence with such taste. ------------------ |
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C Dixon Member Posts: 5912 |
posted 23 February 2000 08:58 AM
Lloyd Green eptiomizes, IMHO, what he quoted the great Jerry Byrd as once having said, "three rules to playing; "melody, melody, and melody" Can't add anything to that! God bless you all, carl |
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scott murray Member Posts: 751 |
posted 23 February 2000 01:29 PM
I spoke to JayDee once about playing with Gram Parsons and Clarence White. He spoke highly of them both, and he seemed to remember doing that instrumental w/ Clarence that came out as a bonus track. It's called "All I Have is Memories" i think. Did anyone cut this song with lyrics? JayDee said he is actually embarassed to listen to his playing from that era. I'm not sure if he realizes how many people fell in love with the sound he made on that record. If you want more Jay Dee from that time period, try to find Gram Parsons and the International Submarine Band's 'Safe At Home' album, which I think you can get on CD from Sierra Records. |
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Henning Antonsen Member Posts: 75 |
posted 23 February 2000 03:12 PM
I'll second Mr. Fred Murphy on this one.. "Ten Shades of Green" is the best steel album I've heard EVER.. and it's been re-issued on CD recently. Do yourself a BIG favor.. buy it!  |
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Craig Stock Member Posts: 557 |
posted 24 February 2000 05:21 PM
The International Submarine Band CD is on Sundown Magnum Music Group Label CDSD 071, it was originally on Shiloh records. As for who played on most of Sweetheart's, I asked Roger McGuinn last year about that album and he seemed to think that Lyoyd did most of the playing on the original album, I didn't ask him about the bonus cuts. ------------------ |
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Murray Cullen Member Posts: 292 |
posted 24 February 2000 05:42 PM
I heard that Jay Dee was played a ShoBud thru a Fender amp in the late sixties, but anyone know which ones and what tuning and pedal setup? |
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Fred Ermentrout Member Posts: 45 |
posted 24 February 2000 05:44 PM
Lynn Anderson's "Walk Me to the Door" had some fine Lloyd stuff--can't recall what album it was on. |
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JAMES BANKS Member Posts: 504 |
posted 29 February 2000 08:23 PM
Matt, If you are looking for Lloyd Green Steel, get a copy of the "Charlie Pride In Person" CD. I is a re-release of a late 60's recording. If you like Southern Gospel, Get a copy of "Best of the Happy Goodmans Live". The C Pride CD can be acquired from alldirect.com and the Goodmans CD can be acquired from Springside Marketing. Both can be accessed via internet. Hope this helps. I think Lloyd Green is the best. James Banks ------------------ |
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Matt Hutchinson Member Posts: 219 |
posted 01 March 2000 01:54 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. Most of the stuff you recommend seems to be unavailable in the UK so I guess I'll have to get a credit card & do a bit of shopping on the internet. |
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clive swindell Member Posts: 618 |
posted 01 March 2000 04:42 AM
Matt Ive ordered the Johnny Paycheck and the Charlie Pride 'Panther Hall' CDs from cdx in Wales. They are in their on-line catalogue. Ive used them before. Go to www.cdx.co.uk |
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Joe Alterio Member Posts: 851 |
posted 01 March 2000 05:00 AM
Lloyd played on the legendary "Nashville sessions" with Mike Nesmith of the Monkees in late 1968. The "Instant Replay", "Monkees Present" and "Missing Links 3" albums feature Lloyd on the Nesmith tracks, including the singles "Listen To The Band" and "Good Clean Fun". It's interesting to hear how Lloyd played to these tunes, and then hear how Red Rhodes interpreted the same music two years later in Nesmith's First National Band.... Joe |
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wayne yakes md Member Posts: 650 |
posted 01 March 2000 08:04 AM
A couple favorites of mine are Skagg's "You've Got a Lover" and Houston's "Farewell Party". By the way, if any was at Lloyd's induction at Scotty's, Skaggs and Lloyd just tore it up in one of the most memorable performances ever! |
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