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David Rothon
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posted 27 February 2000 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Rothon     
Just curious really, but does anyone have any favourite examples of PSG used in unlikely musical genres? A couple of examples that spring to mind are the record ‘There are more questions than answers’ by 70s reggae artist Johnny Nash, which has a great, unexpected PSG break in the middle (I think Nash was from Texas, though, which would explain a lot); and then there's the Nigerian group King Sunny Ade and His African Beats, who used a PSG player called Demola Adepoju (worth checking out some of their stuff with him on – sounds really nice).
There's also the 60s psychedelic band the Misunderstood, featuring Glen Ross Campbell on steel – he played some amazing, wild stuff (not sure if his steel had pedals or not, though). There must be loads of other great examples out there. For example, I'd love to hear a 60s soul track with a PSG on – surely it happened somewhere?
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JB Arnold
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posted 27 February 2000 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JB Arnold     
Buddy Cage has played with some pretty outside company.

From THE CAGE CORNER:
"He has also recorded with Ian & Sylvia(Great Speckled Bird), David Rea(Fairport Convention & Mountain), Allah Rahka(Ravi Shankar Ensemble), The Shondells, David Bromberg w/ Bonnie Raitt & Linda Ronstadt.
Papa John Creach(Hot Tuna), Sly Stone, George Hamilton IV, Lester Chambers of The Chambers Brothers, legendary jazz flutist Charles Lloyd, and the late jazz genius, guitar virtuoso Lenny Breaux."


Not to mention Stirfried, which is pretty different as well as being awfully good.

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slick
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posted 27 February 2000 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slick     
HEY DAVID
I think Lynn Owsley did something around new
years on MTV that was kinda different i think
You might want to ask him?--------------------------------------------------------WB


db
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posted 27 February 2000 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for db     
One of my favorite "outside" tunes featuring steel is the "soca" title track off the "Totally Nude" album by the Talking Heads, steel by Eric Weisberg.

And for a classic, the steel part in Van Morrisons's "Wild Night" ( don't know the player.

Bob Hoffnar
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posted 27 February 2000 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hoffnar     
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Bj Cole stays pretty busy.

I like alot of Indian pop and classical music. They use slide guitar and lap steel quite a bit.

Bob

Dayton Osland
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posted 27 February 2000 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dayton Osland     
Hello,

I'll probably get back to you on this one again.

Buddy Cage - Bob Dylan- Blood on the Tracks album.
Buddy Emmons - Jazz album and the Steel Guitar album - He does Handels Cannon In D for chamber music.

Rolling Stones - Ronny Woods often plays PSG. You might just say the Stones are playing country and disallow this one. But then what have you really said?

The guy on Van Morrison is John McFee. I just looked this one up on All Music Guide -- heard the steel and just had to find out who was doing it. Same was true for me for the trumpet.

There is a bit of everything on Beck's "Sex Laws" including PSG. Haven't found out who though.

John Macy plays a great steel solo on Tangerine - a Big Head Todd and the Monsters tribute to Led Zeplin. He told me that Jimmy Page played PSG on some Led Zeplin stuff including the original version of that song.

I have been told that someone in Pink Floyd played PSG on some of their stuff.

I saw Chuck Berry playing steel on a TV special. Keith Richards played with him on several songs. I haven't heard Chuck Berry recorded playing steel elswehere. He had a single neck - very plain steel. I thought it was a Sho-Bud but my friend Earl says it was a MSA.

Corey Harris plays lap steel on Basehead. He played several more songs at last years Chicago Blues Fest as well.

Greg Liesz plays some wonderful steel on all of Sheryl Crows CD's. Some of her stuff sort of borders on country but I don't think the Grand Old Opry is going to claim "All I Wanna Do"

I think that if you keep your ears open you will hear PSG in lots of settings you may not be expecting. For a while I thought it was only in my younger days (70's) but there are steels popping up in many settings now as well.

Dayton



Martin Abend
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posted 28 February 2000 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Martin Abend     
The record that got me finally hooked on PSG is Richard Buckners "since" from 1998. Eric Heywood plays absolutely fantastic. It's a Singer/Songrwriter album with some guys from the Chicago math-rock posse like David Grubbs and my favourite drummer John McEntire.

Martin

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Joe Alterio
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posted 28 February 2000 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Alterio     
The pedal steel guitarist on Beck's "Midnight Vultures" album (including "Sexx Laws") is Jay Dee Manness.

The "Sexx Laws" song is great, as it reminds me of some of the later songs Mike Nesmith did with the Monkees....banjo, steel, horns, etc. Beck is the MAN!

Joe

P Gleespen
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posted 28 February 2000 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for P Gleespen     
Cake's album "Prolonging the Magic" has some nice steel on a couple tracks provided by Greg Vincent.
Also, the Lemonheads "Come on Feel the Lemonheads" has some steel from Sneaky Pete.


Dave Van Allen
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posted 28 February 2000 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Van Allen     
Dayton, the Canon in D is by Pachelbel not Handel
I did indeed hear a Motown recording of the Supremes BEFORE they were the Supremes that was basically a R&B ballad that out of nowhere has areally cool steel solo- only heard it once- no title no other clue as to a source
Skunk Baxter on Steely Dan's "Fire in the Hole"

PF w/ Dire Straits of course!
Emmons w/ Ray CHarles
BJ Cole - any where he wants to be
same with Sneaky Pete
Joe Wright- Powerslide

Dan Tyack- Blackened Toast rocks pretty hard
Joe Goldmark plays some pretty ecclectic choice cuts-Zappa's Peaches En Regalia and others

and my own "Steel GUitar Dance party" has some unusual Rockabilly/thrash/surf stuff on it...



ajm
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posted 28 February 2000 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajm     
Rick Derringer on "Ain't nothin' to me" from the album "Still Alive and Well" by Johnny Winter.
Derringer may have played on a couple of Edgar Winters' albums also.
Also, someone (not Billy Gibbons) has played on a couple of ZZTop albums.


Darvin Willhoite
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posted 28 February 2000 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darvin Willhoite     
My wife recently bought a new CD of Brian McKnight which is definitely Pop/Motown. One cut has a very prominent steel in it done by Greg Leisz.(sp?)


Chris Walke
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posted 28 February 2000 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Walke     
Far as I know, the steel player in Pink Floyd is David Gilmour, who is also their lead guitarist/vocalist. He plays only lap steel, I think.

Greg Leisz on Bill Frisell's album "Good Dog, Happy Man" is wonderful.

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posted 28 February 2000 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ernie Renn     
Buddy with Manhattan Transfer and J.J. Cale.
Also, Buddy's jazz recordings were definitely not country, but then again, they weren't meant to be.

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David Rothon
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posted 28 February 2000 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Rothon     
Keep 'em coming! I should have mentioned BJ Cole, of course, especially in the light of his recent project with Luke Vibert (a blend of hip-hop beats, drum ‘n‘ bass and Hawaiian-style exotica), which has had a fair amount of media attention here. (By the by, BJ gave me my first PSG lesson a year ago – thanks, BJ, and sorry, I nicked your thumb pick by mistake; I've still got it.)
Of course once you lose the pedals, that opens up all kinds of wild examples. Re: Bob Hoffnar's mention of Indian music – definitely! I've got a nice LP called Golden Melodies by Lata Mangeshkar. Also, Indian film soundtracks from the 70s are a classic source of amazing musical hybrids in general – one I've got features lap steel on a pretty straight lift from ‘The Good The Bad And The Ugly’ – it's as great as it sounds!
And then of course there's Alvino Rey's out-there playing on the Esquivel albums…
OK, that'll do

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