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Pete Nelson Member Posts: 19 |
posted 02 March 2000 09:31 PM
While the bulk of the session work in town seems to be done by Paul Franklin (and deservedly so--not only is he the player of the last decade, but will lead us into the future. An absolute master of feel, tone, taste and pitch), the rest of the work seems to be primarily Sonny, Bruce, and Dan. Seems like a lot of people scoff at Dan a bit, but his playing to me is always fresh and tasteful. While he might not burn the stage down at St. Louis in a jam, he nevertheless is always on the money in the studio, and one of the nicest guys to boot. Just seems like he deserves a bit more respect. Just wondering... [This message was edited by Pete Nelson on 02 March 2000 at 09:43 PM.] |
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Boomer Member Posts: 400 |
posted 02 March 2000 10:01 PM
The great Tommy Allsup tells a story about backing up some label artists sometime in the seventies at FanFair with an "all-star band" that consisted of the hottest session players at the time. Between artists the band was asked to play "Steel Guitar Rag". The steel player indicated he didn't know that one. He was none other than Pete Drake, the number one steeler in the land. So its not how well you play, its how you play well. Best, Boomer |
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Theresa Galbraith Member Posts: 2369 |
posted 03 March 2000 05:00 AM
Dan is great, does anyone know how he's doing? Theresa |
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John Brabant Member Posts: 59 |
posted 03 March 2000 06:53 AM
Don't know much about Dan currently, but recently saw a video of Dan playing on tour with James Taylor. He was playing a doubleneck Sho Bud, brown wood color. He played some real pretty, if not flashy, stuff on "In my mind, I'm going to Carolina.." I also met a cousin of Dan's about 5 years ago at Winterhawk bluegrass festival. He said Dan was doing exceedingly well since he moved to Nashville. He said Dan won some kind of music award for his playing on "Blue Bayou". Yeah, alot of folks like to pick at Dan D. not being as hot a steel player as some of the others, but when it comes to knowing what to play (and when and what not to play) on some of those sweet ballads, he really has knows how to pull at the heart strings. I love what he does to enhance the singer, my guess is so does James Taylor and Linda Ronstadt, who could have any steel player they want on their albums. Ernest Bovine might have a few words on Dan's playing... |
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RickRichtmyer Member Posts: 2522 |
posted 03 March 2000 07:55 AM
Count me in as a "Dan Fan."  ------------------ |
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Pete Nelson Member Posts: 19 |
posted 03 March 2000 08:19 AM
I think Dan is doing well, and back to work. FOr those of you who don't know, Dan had major surgery for prostate cancer last fall, but all seems to be well. I wish him the best, and keep up the great playing. |
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Greg Simmons Member Posts: 1134 |
posted 03 March 2000 09:12 AM
Dan sounds great (as always) on albums like Allison Moorer's "Alabama Song" and the recent John Prine duet one. I emailed him about his setup on the Moorer recording and he used a Sho-Bud Pro II through a blackface Twin Reverb loaded with a 15" Black Widow. Of all the present "A-Team" steel guys, I like his "sound" (tone, musicality) the best Glad to hear he's healthy ------------------ [This message was edited by Greg Simmons on 03 March 2000 at 09:13 AM.] |
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Steve Hinson Member Posts: 1837 |
posted 04 March 2000 05:55 AM
I saw Dan at EMI the other day-he looked real good and is back to work full time. |
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Jerry Hayes Member Posts: 3306 |
posted 04 March 2000 06:51 AM
I think Dan's solo on Linda Ronstadt's "Blue Bayou" is one of the all time classic rides. Talk about taking the steel to places it had never been before. This record exposed the steel guitar on a world wide level, probably more than anything ever recorded by Lloyd, Buddy, Paul, or any of the big guys. Dan was also the lead guitarist for Linda for a while and played some hot country rock on that Les Paul! Also check out his steel work on Linda's version of "I Can't Help It If I'm Still In Love With You". ------------------ [This message was edited by Jerry Hayes on 04 March 2000 at 06:52 AM.] [This message was edited by Jerry Hayes on 04 March 2000 at 06:54 AM.] |
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Steve Hinson Member Posts: 1837 |
posted 04 March 2000 08:02 AM
Jerry,Sneeky Pete Kleinow played on"I Can't Help It"-a lot of people in Nashville think it was Dan,too...he didn't play on any of the cuts from"Heart Like a Wheel". |
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Jerry Hayes Member Posts: 3306 |
posted 04 March 2000 08:49 AM
Hey Steve, Thanks for the information. I thought it was Dan all these years. I'll file that in my memory banks from now on. Take care. ------------------ |
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C Dixon Member Posts: 5912 |
posted 04 March 2000 08:55 AM
Boomer, Oh, how right you are!! carl |
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Ray Satterfield Member Posts: 93 |
posted 04 March 2000 11:22 AM
Dan's interview in February 99's S.G.W. was informative and down to earth. He's a great player and a good old boy. |
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Tommy White Member Posts: 869 |
posted 04 March 2000 12:08 PM
I'm sorry,I just can't let this one slip by.Jerry Hayes said, "probably more than anything ever recorded by Lloyd,Buddy,Paul or any of the big guys"? I think not. The three afore mentioned players are some of the elite few responsible for giving the modern day pedal steel it's world aclaim by playing on countless recordings of every genre and every style of music.Lest we forget Lloyd recorded with Paul Mcartney ,not to mention Lloyd had hit insrumentals on commercial radio before Blue Bayou was even a thought.Buddy and Paul recorded with George Strait and Paul with Direstraits, that's just a recent drop in the bucket of what they have done with top selling artist of all time.Their accomplishments and what they have done for not only steel guitar, but music in general would be far too long and mind boggling to list here.I suggest that one do some research on the subject of pedal steel guitar if one has any doubt who blazed the trail and popularized the instrument.I'm through now. T.W. [This message was edited by Tommy White on 04 March 2000 at 12:11 PM.] |
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CHIP FOSSA Member Posts: 2536 |
posted 04 March 2000 02:07 PM
Dan also cut some albums for and toured with John Stewart for awhile. John Stewart was a longtime member of the Kingston Trio, and has many solo albums/cds to his credit. He had a mild hit on the radio, "July, You're A Woman", but other artists [Ann Murray, the Monkees] had big hits with his song "Daydream Believer". ------------------ |
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Sleepy John unregistered Posts: 2536 |
posted 05 March 2000 11:13 AM
Jerry Got your foot in your mouth again, Huh?  Don't worry, It will fall out. Your mouth is much bigger than your foot. ------------------ |
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dblnk unregistered Posts: 2536 |
posted 05 March 2000 11:22 AM
Tommy, You are blessed with clairvoyance. You read my mind perfectly!!!! ------------------ |
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Jerry Hayes Member Posts: 3306 |
posted 05 March 2000 01:54 PM
Hey Tommy, Maybe I got carried away in the heat of the moment or something and I've thought of a couple of other good examples of my heroes playing which made it to other venues namely Buddy's work with Judy Collins on "Someday Soon" or Lloyd's "Top of The World" with the Carpenters. It's just that it's nice to see a good steel ride such as the Blue Bayou thing played with taste and feeling by an unknown. It seems like we get stuff in other styles of music like the out of tune thing Toy Caldwell did on "Fire on the Mountain". I know Buddy E. did some recording with the great Henry Mancini orchestra which was magnificent but probably didn't get heard to much by the record buying young people. Pete Drake had some hit records with his talking steel but that was 40 years ago. I think Paul F. toured with Dire Straits after they quit having hits didn't he. I may be wrong but I've got a greatest hits package by Dire Straits and I don't hear any steel on it unless it's disguised. Poco had some great steel guitar stuff but they never made it to the status of Linda Ronstadt in her heyday. All this said, I'm sorry if I offended you but it's alright too. You have your opinion and I have mine and that's what we're here for. I still LOVE the playing of Buddy, Paul, John H, Weldon, Tom B, Hal R, and especially my own personal hero Ralph Mooney. I even admire and respect the stuff you do on the Opry. It's great! So you have a great day and keep on pickin'. And you Sleepy John, I've told you over and over to quit coming out among decent folk! ------------------ |
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Tommy White Member Posts: 869 |
posted 05 March 2000 02:21 PM
Jerry, No offense taken.I do understand your opinions. Being a professional for more than 25 years however,has allowed me to know first hand which players introduced the pedal steel to the masses. By the way, thankyou for complimenting me for what I do on the Opry,I do appreciate that.You have a nice day as well. T.W. |
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Jim Heffernan Member Posts: 165 |
posted 05 March 2000 09:00 PM
Glad to see you made up guys,and let's all hope that Steve Hinson never reads this and offers his two cents.I don't think any of us have enough RAM for that |
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Dave Horch Member Posts: 628 |
posted 05 March 2000 09:51 PM
quote: That would be Rusty Young, the guy that inspired me to take up this crazy thing (only it took 20 years for me to get the guts (and money) to go for it!)! Yeah,... Dan!, Rusty!, Carl Perkins! Sneeky Pete! You are why I'm playin' now. Regards, -Dave |
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Steve Hinson Member Posts: 1837 |
posted 06 March 2000 05:24 AM
Hef-I don't have two more cents-it's been s-l-o-o-w... |
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CHIP FOSSA Member Posts: 2536 |
posted 06 March 2000 05:34 AM
Gheez Jerry, I believe the steeler on the Carpenter's "Top of the World" was Red Rhodes and not Lloyd Green. Chip...Red Carpenter Ant Fan |
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Steve Hinson Member Posts: 1837 |
posted 06 March 2000 05:45 AM
Hef,great job with Brad on CMT,BTW... |
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Dan Tyack Member Posts: 3552 |
posted 06 March 2000 06:11 AM
Chip, I believe we had a thread on this, and it came out that it was a combination of Jay Dee and Red on Top of the World. Tommy, I'm not going to argue about which recordings were the most important for the pedal steel (my asbestos underware aren't thick enough for that). But I do believe that Blue Bayou was a very, very important recording for many of the producers and artists who are making the Nashville major label masters today. I mean, are there any Nashville female singers recording today who wouldn't put Linda Ronstadt as a major if not the major influence on them (Martina McBride comes to mind as almost a Linda clone). Also, think of all those producers who came to Nashville from LA, who wouldn't know Jimmy Dickens from Ferlin Husky, but who were first exposed to 'country' through Ronstadt. So I do think that it was 'Blue Bayou' which got Dan Dugmore through the door in Nashville, although if he didn't produce, he wouldn't have stayed there. ------------------ |
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Tommy White Member Posts: 869 |
posted 06 March 2000 04:59 PM
Dan, I agree Blue Bayou did have a continuing influence on a small percentage of producers and musicians who came to Nashville when the recording industry in California began sagging,which has been healthy for record sales I suppose, but again, this is not the issue I responded to,nor the subject of my reply post.So, to sum up,my reply still stands.Good to hear from you anyway. T.W. [This message was edited by Tommy White on 06 March 2000 at 05:03 PM.] |
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Dave Robbins Member Posts: 718 |
posted 06 March 2000 05:18 PM
Man, I'm not even going to go there on this one! Let me just say "TOMMY" I'm standing with you on this one! |
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Steve Hinson Member Posts: 1837 |
posted 06 March 2000 08:41 PM
MY Carpenters record says that Red Rhodes and Buddy Emmons played on 'Top of the World"... |
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Dan Tyack Member Posts: 3552 |
posted 06 March 2000 10:01 PM
Tommy, I think we agree.... I agree with your post that Blue Bayou wasn't a milestone in steel guitar history. And we agree that it remains a benchmark for the folks that make the decisions (for better or worse) in the Nashville music industry (note that I am not calling it the country music industry). Good to hear from you too! ------------------ |
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Craig Stock Member Posts: 557 |
posted 07 March 2000 06:14 AM
Tommy, I have to thank you again for telling Dan to list one of his guitars on the NET, a Red S-10 Sho-Bud. I purchased it as my first guitar. I have been a fan of Dan's for a long time and can agree to some earlier posts on Dan's influence. Coming from the NYC area growing up in the seventies, most of the steel we heard on the radio was from guy's like Dan, so he did bring it to alot of people where I live. Dan is a great guy, he also plays on the new Album by Hank Williams III, which is great. Hank is really a disciple of Wayne 'The Train' Hancock though and if you listen it shows. Tommy, if you see Dan tell him Craig says hello. ------------------ |
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Buddy Emmons Member Posts: 1403 |
posted 07 March 2000 01:14 PM
Steve, My Carpenters liner notes for "Top Of The World" say the same thing, so I guess I've been on at least two of their albums. |
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Larry Sasser Member Posts: 41 |
posted 07 March 2000 09:03 PM
Buddy I was about to tell everyone who played on Top of The World But it's better to hear it from the MAN that was there. Also, Craig Stock, the red Sho-Bud your talking about; I have known Dan for a long time and when he was with Linda R. he was playing a red Bud. It Maybe the one????????? I think, everyone has some good points about Dan BUT, I have to go with Tommy on this one. If not for Buddy,Lloyd,Jimmy ect. Dan would have never heard of a steel guitar. Larry Sasser |
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Dan Tyack Member Posts: 3552 |
posted 07 March 2000 09:03 PM
It all comes back to me now.... Somebody on the forum swore to have heard a release of Top of the World with just Red, but when the single/album came out it was Red and Buddy (not Jay Dee, sorry to misattribute that record). ------------------ |
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Craig Stock Member Posts: 557 |
posted 08 March 2000 05:44 AM
Larry, I wish it was, but Dan used this guitar mostly for demos, he did say it was used on a Kieran Kane album though. I had Dan sign the underside of the guitar and I really love the guitar... sounds real good. On Dan's website there is a great article from 'Guitar Player' mag where he tells about buying his first guitar from 'Sneaky Pete' and playing for John Stewart. http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/4386/article.html ------------------ |
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Buddy Emmons Member Posts: 1403 |
posted 08 March 2000 07:57 AM
For some that aren't familiar, Red played the intro (middle?) and ending to "On Top Of The World" and I played some fills. I was impressed by how Richard Carpenter had the entire song structured in his head. He wanted specific licks in certain areas, and to make sure he got what he wanted from me, he played them to me on the keyboard. I believe the entrance to my fill section was a Ralph Mooney type lick, which was Richard's idea and what I thought was quite a tribute to Ralph. Richard was the genius behind the Carpenter sound, and by the time I left the studio, I knew why so many Carpenter recordings were as close to perfection as you can get. Of course it didn't hurt to have one of the finest and truest female voices I've ever heard. As for the topic, hi Dan, if you're out there. You are a terrific player and Blue Bayou gets my vote for one of the more memorable and tasty turnarounds in the history of the steel guitar. Tell your dad hello for me and I wish you both the best. |
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Pete Nelson Member Posts: 19 |
posted 08 March 2000 08:26 AM
Wow, I said he did not get the respect he deserves, then the maestro himself gives it to him. Yeah, Dan! Yeah, Buddy! |
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John Brabant Member Posts: 59 |
posted 08 March 2000 09:45 AM
Yeah, way to be Buddy! |
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