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Ron Shepard Member Posts: 144 |
posted 10 March 2000 04:35 AM
I need to learn this song and would like to know what artist recorded it. Was it Linda Rondstat? Any versions with steel in it? thanks for the help. |
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Dan Crook Member Posts: 45 |
posted 10 March 2000 04:39 AM
Linda recorded it using Sneaky Pete on steel in the eary 70's. |
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Terry Wood Member Posts: 1205 |
posted 10 March 2000 04:57 AM
This song was also recorded by other artists. I know Bobby Helms recorded it too. Remember he's the guy who recorded the smash hits "Jingle Bell Rock" and the classic song " You Are My Special Angel." Yet, I can't remember if his version included the steel guitar. The classic licks most of us steelers play is probably similiar to Sneaky Pete's. It is sort of ingrained in our heads like Jay Dee Maness' cut on the Ray Stevens "Misty." Both excellent pickers and excellente steel work on these two classic songs! |
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clive swindell Member Posts: 618 |
posted 10 March 2000 05:21 AM
I'm sure it is on the Parton/Wynette/Lynn compilation CD - Honk Tonk Angels. I havent got it in front of me at the moment but I can hear it in my head. The CD is my favourite. I think Weldon Myrick plays on the track you want. |
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BDBassett Member Posts: 503 |
posted 10 March 2000 05:49 AM
Linda Ronstadt recorded Silver Threads on her 1973 release "Don't Cry Now". Although Sneaky Pete did play on several cuts, so did Buddy Emmons and Ed Black. It was Ed Black on that particular song. If memory serves, Mr. Black passed away a year or so ago. |
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Jeremy Steele Member Posts: 379 |
posted 10 March 2000 05:54 AM
If I'm not mistaken it was originally recorded by the Springfields (featuring Dusty) in the late fifties....don't think that version had any steel, however. [This message was edited by Jeremy Steele on 10 March 2000 at 05:55 AM.] |
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Ray Cothren Member Posts: 327 |
posted 10 March 2000 06:22 AM
I have Rose Maddox's version of it (1964) w/Ralph Mooney. |
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Duane Becker Member Posts: 382 |
posted 10 March 2000 07:29 AM
Skeeter Davis also recorded it. Her verision is kinda pop in general with an orchestra of violins and other strings. |
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CHIP FOSSA Member Posts: 2536 |
posted 10 March 2000 07:32 AM
Didn't the English group, "The Searchers" do it, too? Or was that "Needles & Pins"? ------------------ |
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Jeremy Steele Member Posts: 379 |
posted 10 March 2000 07:41 AM
That was "Needles and Pins" Chip, although the Springfields were an English group as well. |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 10 March 2000 08:34 AM
Ray, is the steel part on the Rose Maddox/Mooney recording similar to the Rondstat recording? I always thought there was a lot of Moon in that. My own version is on the Pam's Country Jam CD. ------------------ |
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Michael Douchette Member Posts: 675 |
posted 10 March 2000 09:06 AM
The first recording was by Wanda Jackson, in 1956. The lyric stated," Silver threads and golden needles shall not patch this heart of mine." Mikey ------------------ |
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Mike Perlowin Member Posts: 6731 |
posted 10 March 2000 09:28 AM
I remember Billy Grammer as having the hit on Jingle Bell Rock, and Bobby Helms' big hit was "My Special Angel." |
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Michael Johnstone Member Posts: 2535 |
posted 10 March 2000 09:37 AM
It was indeed the late,great Ed Black. |
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Ray Cothren Member Posts: 327 |
posted 10 March 2000 11:19 AM
b0b, I don't have the Ronstadt version and it's been a long time since I heard it. In any case, on Rose's take, Ralph is low in the mix. Glen Campbell, Roy Nichols & Cal Maddox are not. |
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Jason Odd Member Posts: 2665 |
posted 10 March 2000 01:50 PM
Linda originally did a version of the song for her 1969 solo debut, but seeing it had a fuzz guitar solo and intro, {actually pretty much all the way through}it would be of minimal interest to anyone seeking a steel arrangement. Overall the '73 version is a lot more tasty. Ray, dig that line-up for Rose,.., Ralph, Glen Campbell, Roy Nichols & Cal Maddox! ------------------ |
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RickRichtmyer Member Posts: 2522 |
posted 10 March 2000 01:54 PM
Linda Ronstadt recorded that song twice. The first time was on an album called Home Grown, Hand Sown.... That may have been Sneeky on that one. I'm sure Ed Black was influenced by that version, but he did play on the hit. ------------------ |
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Fred Ermentrout Member Posts: 45 |
posted 10 March 2000 01:59 PM
A REALLY good steel solo (by Weldon Myrick)in this particular song is found on the album Dolly Parton, Loretta Lynn, and Tammy Wynette released as a trio several years ago. |
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Donny Hinson Member Posts: 9192 |
posted 10 March 2000 02:49 PM
Linda Ronstadt's version was the first hit, but it was recorded earlier by Wanda Jackson. The guys who wrote it (Jack Rhodes and Dick Reynolds) also wrote "Waltz of the Angels", which Wynn Stewart had a minor hit with. Jack was also co-wrote "Satisfied Mind", the big Porter Wagonner hit. The name of the other writer escapes me, though. |
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Fish Member Posts: 81 |
posted 10 March 2000 08:50 PM
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Red Rhodes played steel on the 1969 Ronstadt cut and Eddie Black played on the 1973 version. The loss of Ed Black from this community is still unimaginable. He had a big heart and helped many young players get started out in LA. No one loved the instrument more than Ed. |
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Gregg Galbraith Member Posts: 314 |
posted 10 March 2000 10:07 PM
Mike:Bobby Helms had the hit on "Jingle-Bell Rock." Donny: Red Hays sp? was the other writer on "A Satisfied Mind" Red was a great fiddle player who passed away while on tour over-seas with Faron Young. |
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Peter Dollard Member Posts: 705 |
posted 10 March 2000 10:41 PM
My hearing may be malfunctioning but I just listened to the Ed Black version of Silver Threads. He seems to be more in tune with Linda's vocal then any of the other session musicians...the fiddle sounds slightly flat as do the other instruments.Maybe "B" isn't the easiest fiddle key.Pete. |
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Mike Perlowin Member Posts: 6731 |
posted 11 March 2000 03:12 AM
Gregg, is it possible that Bobby Helms had the hit on Jingle Bell rock on the country charts while Billy Grammer had it on the pop charts? I think I remember seeing Billy Grammer perform the song on American bandstand. (Amazing what bits of trivia we retain from our childhood.) As you probably know, Marty Robbins had the hit on the country charts for "Singing the Blues" while Guy Mitchell had the pop hit. And of course Tony Bennett had the pop hit on Cold Cold Heart. Could this be another example of a song sung by 2 different singers charting with different audiences? |
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S Pickens Member Posts: 67 |
posted 11 March 2000 04:22 AM
Bobby Helms had two versions of JBR - one with and one without PSG. Guess which one I like the best?! Don't know who played on the PSG version but it had a quite lengthy and pretty tasty C6 ride on it (not to mention the intro). I have the CD but unfortunately, no credits are given. |
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Jason Odd Member Posts: 2665 |
posted 13 March 2000 06:48 AM
Fish, you are correct that is Red Rhodes on the 1969 Ronstadt version. Red probably appreared on the most non-Nashville sessions of 1969, with the Beach Boys, Bamboo, the Monkees, Johnny Meeks, the Lovin' Spoonful, Ronstadt, Freddie Wheller, Norm Kass and Gene Vincent among others. And I only heard about Ed Black's passing late last year, a great picker. ------------------ |
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Bob Shilling Member Posts: 469 |
posted 13 March 2000 04:06 PM
Well, I always thought JBR was ONLY done by Bobby Helms. And I always think of his biggest hit as "Fraulein." I heard a nice version of that one by Willie Nelson, with Jimmy Day on the PSG. ------------------ |
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Pete Nelson Member Posts: 19 |
posted 18 March 2000 09:04 PM
On the '69 version, from "Home Grown, Hand Sown", I believe that was the Area Code 615 band on there, featuring Weldon on that solo. I'll try and dig it out, and I do stand to be corrected, but that's what I remember. |
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Dave Horch Member Posts: 628 |
posted 18 March 2000 09:41 PM
Dr. Ed Black did it proud! Since then, it seems the Lord had other work for him to do... So if Heaven is on the 'net... Thanks, Ed for your pickin'. Your playing inspired me decide to go for this crazy thing! Regards, -Dave ------------------ [This message was edited by Dave Horch on 18 March 2000 at 09:42 PM.] |
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Murray Cullen Member Posts: 292 |
posted 18 March 2000 10:36 PM
Someone mentioned a fuzz guitar solo in Linda Ronstadt's version, but if you listen close, it sounds more like Gib Guilbeau's fiddle (thru fuzz). |
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Jason Odd Member Posts: 2665 |
posted 23 March 2000 11:59 AM
Not on the 1969 version, Gib was still in Palmdale and leading the Reasons with Wayne Moore, who was shunted aside for John Beland in December 1969 and led to Ronstandt's group evolving into the lovely outfit Swampwater {two LP's}who also backed her. ------------------ |
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