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Bill McCullough
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posted 14 March 2000 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill McCullough     
Hi all,

My girlfriend and I love to go dancing and I love to hear any steel players I can.... and soak up as much steel as I can. Can you guys point me in the right direction to some great little honky tonks around texas we could visit on the weekends? They are getting harder and harder to find. We have some good ones here in Austin, but I am looking to expand beyond the Austin area. I'll take any info... even the smallest little club.....

Thanks to all of you for all your help,
Bill McCullough


sonbone
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posted 14 March 2000 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sonbone     
Here in Fort Worth we have two places that especially come to mind: Big Balls of Cowtown and The White Elephant Saloon. Both of these establishments are on Exchange Street in the Fort Worth Stockyards. White Elephant is 106 East Exchange. Big Balls of Cowtown is 302 West Exchange.


David Galloway
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posted 14 March 2000 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Galloway     
Well, in my opinion the "king" or "queen" of all honky tonks is the Spoke right there in the greatest city on the planet, Austin, Texas. I mean, I don't even know why you would leave to look elsewhere.
But if you are up in East Texas, the Reo Palm Isle is a great honky tonk in Longview. It often hosts some really great acts like Willie but most of the time the bands are local, the beer icy, and the fights real. Also Country Tavern is a good spot in Kilgore with the best ribs in Texas. I am glad you started this thread because I love finding these out of the way places in our state.


Marty Muse
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posted 14 March 2000 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Muse     
Are you getting tired of us already? Guess we better learn some new licks or something! Hey Bill, come out Thursday afternoon to the Derailers/Ray Price show. Hope to see you soon.

MM

Pat Smith
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posted 14 March 2000 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pat Smith     
I will vote for Big Balls of Cowtown, Ft Worth stockyards....It's at the top of the hill and on Sunday afternoons at 6pm Gary Carpenter kicks off an evening of GREAT western swing and shuffles...You wont hear any better!

Pat Smith

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B Bailey Brown
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posted 14 March 2000 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B Bailey Brown     
Bill,

Now that is a new question! As others have said, the better “Honky Tonks” have (sadly enough) disappeared in most areas. In San Antonio, the only few I can think of would be Leon Springs Dance Hall, Floores Store and Country Gold. Now, there are a ton of little beer joints with a country band, sometimes having a great steel player, depending on what band is there.

Beyond SA, but in the area try London Hall in London, TX, in Uvalde the Purple Sage and soon to open, The Lone Star Saloon. You won’t always hear a great steel player at any of those places (Especially if I am playing there!), but they tend to book the “better” bands, or the bigger acts, that in many cases have a steel player that knows his stuff.

B. Bailey Brown


Dan Crook
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posted 14 March 2000 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Crook     
Does Gruene Hall qualify?

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Chet Force
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posted 14 March 2000 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chet Force     
Isnt there anything in Amarillo anymore?
Bob Wills' old hangout....I guess there's no reason to go back there.


John Russell
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posted 14 March 2000 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Russell     
My vote goes to Club 21 in Uhland. It's about halfway between San Marcos and Bastrop on The King's Road, El Camino Real (Hwy. 21).
I've played there many times and would love to get back in soon. There's no AC in the summer and heat in the winter is from two 55 gal. wood stoves. It' about 100 years old, an old gymnasium as I recall. Got game cock pens in back, but don't tell anybody.

Texas Highways Magazine, where I work during the day, did a story on Texas dance halls and those mentioned in this thread are among the ones they mention. Log onto www.texashighways.com There may be a place to request back issues and articles I'm not sure.

There's a pretty neat dance hall in Bandera called the Saloon, I think. Features lots of recording acts and some local talent.

There's a club we drove by in Dallas over the weekend during the Jamboree. Its on Northwest Highway near the Irving city limit called the Top Rail, its been there for years.

I would also submit the Coupland Inn in Coupland about 25 miles east of here (Austin). It's got barbecue next door and a pretty big dance floor. Lots of pictures on the wall of guys like Willie, Gary Stewart, Johnny Bush, all of whom have played there.

Then there's the River Palace in Johnson City. If you're in Salado, check out Bo's Barn. It's right on I-35.

Herb Steiner could pick up where I left off, he's played em all.

John R.

Earl Erb
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posted 14 March 2000 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Erb     
Whatever happened to Dancetown USA in Houston and the Golden Stallion in San Antone? Used to love playing in those places back in the 70s.Also played at a great dance hall in Victoria,can't remember the name of the place.Had no air conditioning but great accoustics.


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posted 14 March 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon in Alaska     
HI, Bill !!!!! When I saw your post, I could not help thinking this ---- I don't know where the best little honkey tonks in Texas is , but I do know that the best little Whore House in Texas is on video tape !!

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Herb Steiner
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posted 14 March 2000 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Herb Steiner     
Bill
Pass up the Coupland Inn, since the band is top 40 (though they are excellent musicians), but the club owners leave me cold. Rather, push up further north to Granger and go to the Cotton Club where Bubba Cox holds forth with a cool band and Donnie Crider playing steel guitar.

In San Antonio, the Farmer's Daughter may or may not be open; but when they are, either Rick Price or Denny Mathis will be playing steel and they will knock you out, I garontee!!

In Bandera, there are two clubs: the Cabaret, and Arkie Blue's Silver Dollar. The Cab has good, Gruene Hall-type acts and an excellent gourmet restaurant. The Silver Dollar is a quintessential Texas honky tonk... no, it is the quintessential Texas honky tonk. Easily the equal of the Broken Spoke in atmosphere.

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David Galloway
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posted 15 March 2000 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Galloway     
And don't forget Johnny Mack Brown High School every Satday night featuring the ol'Road Hog, Lester Moran and the Cadillac Cowboys. I know they don't have a real steel player but Wichita does a mighty fine job on the kick off guitar. Reminds you of Check Atkins. Remember to be on your best behavior.
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posted 15 March 2000 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glenn Suchan     
Bill, are we talking about real honky-tonks?

I agree with a lot of the choices as being great places to hear good hillbilly music (with steel guitar) ie. Leon Springs Dance Hall, Bandera Cabaret, Club 21, The River Palace, etc. But, these places are really sizable dance halls and not exactly honky-tonks. I agree with Herb about the Coupland Inn. It has the potential for being a real legendary DANCE HALL but the usual bands and the folks running it hold it back.

I like the idea of calling the White Elephant a honky-tonk (even though it's in the heart of the tourist district and it also serves as an occasional set for the T.V. show "Walker Texas Ranger"). But, my votes go to Austin clubs tho. They are:

The Broken Spoke (not a pretty place. it might get blown away in a stiff wind; usually good honky-tonk dance music and it has a wooden dance floor).

The Chapparal Lounge (not a pretty place. watch out for seedy characters inside and your car outside; usually good honky-tonk music and a sizable wooden dance floor).

Henry's, Liberty Hill, TX (not a pretty place and it's tiny; not much of a dance floor; but some of the best folks you'll ever meet; some of the truest forms of honky-tonk music you'll hear. both live and on the jukebox; and some the cheapest cold beer you'll get outside of your own icebox).

Last and certainly not least, Ginny's Little Longhorn, (the same as Henry's but smaller and with better lighting )

Sorry, Bill I guess I didn't tell you anything you don't already know about, but why go a long distance if the best is right here?

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn





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posted 15 March 2000 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wayne yakes md     
I always liked the Texas Star Inn on HWY 16 going NE out of San Antonio about half-way before you get to Floore's Country Store in Helotes.


Steve England
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posted 15 March 2000 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve England     
Bill! You know darn well where the best little honky tonks in Texas are. They are right here on your doorstep you silly boy

Seriously though, when if Fort Worth it should be compulsory to attend Big Balls of Cow Town.
Hey John Russel, was that the article written by a woman named Elaine? She came round to my place to get the info on those places, I hope I gave her the right information. I, pretty sure Bill already knows most of them.



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posted 15 March 2000 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B Bailey Brown     
Earl,

As a side note, the Golden Stallion was one of the first of the great dance halls in San Antonio to close. I’m not sure, but it runs in my mind that it has been closed now for at least 12, maybe 15 years. Additionally, I have played that hall in Victoria and you are right, it is a great hall. By the way…I can’t remember the name of it either!

Wayne, the Texas Star Inn was a very cool place to play. It's now Grady's Bar-B-Q. No music, but they do have some of the best Bar-B-Q in town.

B. Bailey Brown


Earl Erb
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posted 15 March 2000 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Erb     
Thanks B.Bailey for the info.Hate to hear about the Stallion.I worked for Jim Ed Brown for 6 yrs and he was very popular in Texas.We played in South Texas more than any other place in the country.I spent 2 yrs.(1966-68)at Ft.Hood and I remember going to the Worlds Fair in San Antone before I headed to Nashville.I really miss those days in Texas.
By the way,you don't by any chance remember a guy that used to work for Coor's Beer and used to book artists in San Antonio.His first name was Ronnie but I can't remember his last name.I am going back to the very early 70's.


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posted 15 March 2000 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for S Pickens     
Earl,
Dancetown U.S.A., unfortunately along with several other "live" music dancehalls here in Houston, fell victim to the "D.J./recorded music, club scene" back about 10+ years ago and is now a northside bingo parlor. Indeed it was a great venue for live country music back in it's time showcasing over the years the music of Buck Owens, Ray Price, Ernest Tubb, George Jones, George Strait, Mel Tillis just to name a very few. Wish these kinda places were still around!


Earl Erb
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posted 15 March 2000 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Erb     
S.Pickens,thanks for the info.This is very depressing to hear.


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posted 16 March 2000 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teesee     
Amen. Herb Steiner
Arkie Blues has a mean set of stairs up to road level though if you've had one too many beers.
Great atmosphere though


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posted 16 March 2000 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B Bailey Brown     
Earl, I think you are probably asking about Ronnie Spillman. I had to think about that for a while, but I think he did work for Coors years ago. If so, Ronnie is alive and well (or was last time I saw him several years ago). He owns an agency that books acts and he manages several of the better local bands in the San Antonio area. Nice guy and I’ve known him for years.

Oh yea teesee…forget the beers! Try carrying a hundred lb. Steel Guitar up and down those stairs at Arkie Blue’s club! That will get your attention.

B. Bailey Brown

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Chuck Smith
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posted 17 March 2000 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuck Smith     
Bill,

If you want a real "Honky Tonk" go to Bandara and stop by Arkey Blues "Silver Dollar Saloon". Front door is on Main street and goes stright downstairs to the bar..

Has bands on Wed.,Fri.& Sat. nites. Sawdust on the floor,cold beer, and sometimes some real good ol two steppen dance misic..

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Earl Erb
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posted 17 March 2000 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Erb     
Thank you very much B.Bailey.Ronnie Spillman is the guy I was thinking of.Great guy.He was responsible for booking Jim Ed Brown on so many dates.Back in the early 70s you couldn't buy Coor's beer in Nashville and he would load our bus up with cases of beer to bring home.Any way,If you ever see him again tell him I said hi.He might remember me but its been many years.


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posted 17 March 2000 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny Cox     
There is the Top Rail somewhere in Dallas

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