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randy Member Posts: 702 |
posted 30 March 2000 06:34 AM
i was just listening to "the Essential Ray Price" and came across the song"Heart Over Mind". Is that you Buddy? I'm still chuckling at the creative little single-string turnaround and man there is some serious harmonics going on in that song. That is a great example of how much was accomplished with so few toys. Great stuff!! randy |
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Vern Kendrick Member Posts: 442 |
posted 30 March 2000 06:42 AM
If I remember corectly,I think that was Jimmy Day, |
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Keith Hilton Member Posts: 1649 |
posted 30 March 2000 07:38 AM
On the original record ,done by Mel Tillis, the player was Walter Haynes. Mel Tillis wrote the song. Terry Bethel has played steel for Mel Tillis over 30 years. Terry told me Walter Haynes was the player on that record when Tillis first recored it. ------------------ |
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Glenn Suchan Member Posts: 1187 |
posted 30 March 2000 08:40 AM
Randy, This is a great song and I love both Ray's and Mel's versions. I think Vern is right with Jimmy Day on Ray's version which dates back to 1960 I think. I've often wondered who is doing the great vocal harmony on the Ray Price version. Is it Ray double-tracking himself or is it possibly Johnny Bush? Vern, do you know? Keep on pickin'! |
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Jason Powers Member Posts: 241 |
posted 30 March 2000 09:47 AM
Glenn If I'm not mistaken,I believe I heard Eddie Stubbs say on his show one night that it was Johnny Paycheck. And as we all know, Eddie knows his stuff. Jason |
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Janice Brooks Moderator Posts: 2760 |
posted 30 March 2000 03:21 PM
i had that album with me today and happened to look at the liner notes. Recording date was Jan 1961. ------------------ |
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Mike Spaeth Member Posts: 164 |
posted 30 March 2000 06:11 PM
Hey Randy, Ray Price will be at Nashville North June 24th. Maybe you could hear it live. I also haven't forgot you, how about sometime next week for checking out the universal??? |
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Vern Kendrick Member Posts: 442 |
posted 31 March 2000 06:14 AM
That could possibly have been Van Howard singing with Price, He did some great ones. |
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randy Member Posts: 702 |
posted 31 March 2000 09:05 AM
Hi Mike. We'll get together one of these days won't we. Just Let me know. Vern, I think you might be right. I saw Van singing with him on one of those old "Opry" shows and it is the same sound. Darrell McCall had a similar sound to that also. I'll bet sombody knows. |
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Glenn Suchan Member Posts: 1187 |
posted 31 March 2000 10:15 AM
Jason, Janice and Vern: Thanks for the info on Ray's mystery harmony vocalist. This forum is wonderful, isn't it! Mike: is the Nashville North you've refered to, in Wooddale or Bensenville, IL? If so, do Archie and Marlene still run it? (I used to get a "bang" out of Marlene's illuminated earrings (I think they were miniature lighthouses or something.... Keep on pickin'! |
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Ray Cothren Member Posts: 327 |
posted 31 March 2000 10:36 AM
re Van Howard: I'll muddy the waters a little bit. I think Van quit the business around 1958. I think Roger Miller joined Ray about that time and probably did some vocals w/Ray. Later on Darrell McCall and others. |
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Mike Spaeth Member Posts: 164 |
posted 31 March 2000 11:20 AM
Glenn, sorry ,but the Nashville North I mentioned is in Taylorville, Il. about 40 mile south of Springfield. |
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Frank Freniere Member Posts: 214 |
posted 31 March 2000 02:25 PM
Glenn - Nashville North in Bensenville has been closed for about two years now. Lake 'n Park in Palos Hills: also dead. The only honky tonks I can think of are in the SW suburbs of Chicago: A&J Lounge in Summit & the Pinto Lounge in Tinley Park. Sad but true. |
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Vern Kendrick Member Posts: 442 |
posted 31 March 2000 08:01 PM
Ray,I was trying to think what year Van Howard quit the busines,I was thinking it was closer to 60,Although it's posible he may have done some sessions later,I know Charlie Harris,did,At least that's what he said,We were working together and he took a few days off to do a session with Price,But Price had so many great singers it's hard to tell,He might not remember. |
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Mitch Drumm Member Posts: 299 |
posted 01 April 2000 01:05 AM
the usually accurate notes to the ray price bear family boxed set list this personnel for ray's recording of "heart over mind" recorded jan 12, 1961, with: ray price, vocal i never knew shorty played guitar, but that is what it says. van howard's last recordings with ray were in feb 1958, on a session that produced "i'm tired", "wondering","please don't leave me", and "talk to your heart". johnny paycheck first appears on july 11, 1960, on a session that includes "i wish i could fall in love today". willie nelson first appears on june 12, 1961. darrell mccall first appears on january 7, 1962. buddy emmons first appears on sept 26, 1962. charlie harris and johnny bush first appear on feb 6, 1964. |
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Janice Brooks Moderator Posts: 2760 |
posted 01 April 2000 11:59 AM
So Darrell was on the session that included Pride(song) ------------------ |
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emmett d unregistered Posts: 2760 |
posted 02 April 2000 08:21 PM
OK, here's another one---"If She Could See Me Now" from the "Night Life" album---the credits don't name anyone as a harmony singer, and Johnny Bush isn't among the listed personnel, but it sure sounds like him; anybody know? |
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