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guitar543
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posted 12 May 2000 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guitar543     
I was hoping someone knew which steeler played on the Gram Parsons cut "Thats all it took" Thanks,Mike


C Lettes
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posted 12 May 2000 07:45 AM           
Hello Mike,
My money is on Buddy Emmons for that tune. I think he also played those distinctive harmonics on "The New Soft Shoe." I always loved the album, GP. It was a great inspiration for me when I was learning the steel in the early l970s. James Burton plays some great guitar also.
Chuck


Jeff Lampert
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posted 12 May 2000 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
Emmons. I saw his name credited somewhere many years ago.


chris ivey
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posted 12 May 2000 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chris ivey     
those are what i used to show people to demonstrate the difference between a good player and a great player.


Jerry Hayes
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posted 12 May 2000 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry Hayes     
I'm probably wrong, but I'd say it was Jay Dee Maness!

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Bob Blair
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posted 12 May 2000 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Blair     
I'm sure it was Buddy Emmons on that song. I think he and Al Perkins are the only steel players on that album.


dixieflyer
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posted 12 May 2000 01:03 PM           
Gram Parsons & Fallen Angels live 1973

pedal steel -- Neil Flanz
sweep out the ashes
new soft shoe
streets of baltimore
thats all it took
and more...

Dont know studio versision
Jay dee played the sweetheart of the rodeo,
Robby


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posted 13 May 2000 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott murray     
My guess is Buddy on that and "She".
I asked Buddy if he had any recollections of the GP sessions, and he said he honestly didn't. I guess he was pretty swamped at that time out in L.A.

Al was the only steel player used on Gram's 'Grievous Angel' album, and his break on "Oo Las Vegas" has gotta be one of the best rides ever took.

I just saw Al in a magazine ad for strings (D'Addario?), playing dobro alongside Josh Graves and Jerry Douglas. Thought that was purty cool.

Neil Flanz
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posted 13 May 2000 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neil Flanz     
It was definitey Buddy Emmons on the studio version of the G.P. album and myself on the Gram Parsons and The Fallen Angels Live '73 album.

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Michael Johnstone
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posted 13 May 2000 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Johnstone     
Listen again to the ride in "Ooh Las Vegas"and I think you'll find it was James Burton playing his pink Tele.A few years later after Gram died,in Emmylou's version of that song,Hank DeVito used to take the ride(on steel) -MJ-


guitar543
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posted 13 May 2000 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for guitar543     
Yes I do believe that was a guitar solo on Grams cut of Ooh Las Vegas.


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posted 14 May 2000 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott murray     
Hard to believe I know, but it's Al with a low E on his guitar a la Tom Brumley.

James kicks off the song with that sweet riff, and is clearly in the right channel. At 12 secs into the song, Al comes in the left channel playing the low end stuff that sounds alot like a standard guitar. James never strays from the high 3 strings of his Tele the entire song and basically provides backup only. The predominant player throughout is Al.

Both solos are Al. His first solo starts with alot of hammer-ons and open strings, then employs banjo rolls in the open position and at the seventh fret, strings 1,4,5 and there is definitely some A pedal in there. When the chord switches to A, he slides to the 3rd fret, using strings 3,4,6 and more A pedal. This is a classic Mooney lick (see "Moonshine" from the Burton/Mooney album). It then returns to the E7 at fret 7 and more A pedal, very PSG-sounding. The cascade of notes played on the D chord is a trademark Al lick. The A is at the 5th fret, then back to E and the bassy notes in open position.
The second solo sounds more like a normal E9 break, but is still pretty similar to the first. (I could try to tab this stuff out if anyone is interested)

The only time James approaches a solo is at the end of the song just before the fadeout.
On Emmylou's 'Elite Hotel' album, James takes the second break.

What a couple of outstanding players and true heroes of mine.

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Jason Odd
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posted 14 May 2000 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jason Odd     
Yeah on that particular track it was James B. and Al,nice little number.

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Michael Johnstone
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posted 14 May 2000 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Johnstone     
Scott-
You're absolutely correct.It IS a steel.I used to play that record to death,but it's been many years since I last heard it - so I dug it out and played it this afternoon.I guess because when that record came out,I wasn't real aware of that style of steel playing and always assumed it was James Burton on guitar.It seems obvious now. -MJ-


guitar543
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posted 15 May 2000 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for guitar543     
Sounds like a incorrect assumption on my part,my apoligies, I thought that the studio solo was James Burton, interesting work by Al Perkins,thanks for straightening out my thinking, Mike


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