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Lindley
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posted 25 June 2000 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lindley     
Is there a book or something showing all the steel chords? I see tabs and instructions with so many chords. If there are 7 notes to the scale, where do 9ths and 13ths and the like come from. I know, what an idiot...
You see, thats why I'm so short; so others can feel so tall..lol I would appreciate some help with this. I'll never just figure these chords out. There's got to be a book!


Joe Herchel
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posted 25 June 2000 02:45 PM           
I really like Buddy's Chord Chart.
Basically it's a single page reference that gives you a lifetime of chords.
http://www.buddyemmons.com/CE9CV.htm

Quite a bargain, IMO.

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J D Sauser
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posted 25 June 2000 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J D Sauser     
I recommend Maurice Anderson's "Click"-System and (for E9th) "The Missing Link". These courses with not only throw a bunch of chords at you, but will also teach you how to navigate within them.
I have'em and I can tell you, it made "click" big time

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John Paul Jones
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posted 25 June 2000 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Paul Jones     
Dig out your copy of 'Steel Guitar World' magazine dated June, 1992. Correct the typo on page 42. At the top of the page and on the right side you will see 4 rows of notes with the headings Maj7 - Dom7 - Min7 - Aug7. Under Maj7 shows a 7b. It should be a 7, reading from the botom up R, 3, 5, 7. Now STUDY pages 40 through 43.

This will get you started understanding music.

Applying it to you instrument takes a little time.

If you have any questions just e-mail me.

John Paul

Ron Hiler
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posted 25 June 2000 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ron Hiler     
Chord Progression Studies,for the pedal steel guitar, By "Fred Layman" is a good one.
Ron


road runner
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posted 25 June 2000 03:56 PM           
get jeff newmans, dictionary, for E9th,..


Jeff Lampert
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posted 25 June 2000 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
The suggested references are all good ideas. As far as your question about 9th and 13th notes, the way it works is that after you go through the seven notes of the scale, you come back to the first note, but you could in a sense call it the eighth note (7 + 1). Then the next appearance of the second note could be called the 9th (7 + 2 = 9, get it!) Likewise, the repeat of the 6th note could be called the 13th because it's 7 + 6.
So, it's not really that complex. Anyway, the books will explain all this. Good luck. .. Jeff


Bill Findlay
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posted 25 June 2000 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Findlay     
Mel Bay's Pedal Steel Guitar Chord chart E9 Tuning by Dewitt Scott is availiable. It is a three page reference for any chord you can find on the psg. Cost $3.95.


Moon in Alaska
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posted 25 June 2000 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon in Alaska     
The greatest help I had was Mike Perlowin's book on theory. I know it is available somewhere. I learned the "WHY", of a heck of a lot of things I had been doing for years. If I can understand it, anybody can !!

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Hill Phillips
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posted 25 June 2000 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hill Phillips     
Hello Lindley.
When you count to 7 grab another octave and keep on countin

“C” Scale
C = 1
D = 2
E = 3
F = 4
G = 5
A = 6
B = 7
C = 8
D = 9
E = 10
F = 11
G = 12
A = 13
B = 14
C Major chord is the notes 1, 3 and 5
Lower the Third a half step for C minor
Relative minor is notes 6, 8 and 10
Flat the 3 and 5 for C diminished ( add 6) (1,3,5)
C6th add the 6th ( A )
C9th Add the 9th ( D )
C13 Add the 13th ( A )
Mix the notes to what makes you feel good.
Oh forgot the 7th
Add the 7th for a major 7th Chord and flat the 7th for a Dominant 7th Chord
Questions Holler



Lindley
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posted 25 June 2000 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lindley     
Thanks Jeff, you have helped a great deal. All of these replies are very helpful to a newbie..I will try to find some of these books...Once again, thank you all...


Joe Alterio
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posted 25 June 2000 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Alterio     
I also recommend the Mel bay Pedal Steel Chord Chart. You'll find it, along with a few of his instruction books, at www.melbay.com.

Joe

Bobby Bowman
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posted 25 June 2000 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Bowman     
Lindley,
All of these are good, but if you want something that will really help you now and for years to come, then by all means get the Buddy Emmons E-9 Chord Vocabulary Course. Check with Buddy or Ernie Renn for ordering. If you don't like it, I'll pay for it. You can't beat that.
BB

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LowellG
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posted 26 June 2000 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LowellG     
Technical stuff on 13ths, 11ths etc:
I was taught that a ninth should include a 7th, an 11th should include a 7th and a 9th, and a 13th should include a 7th, 9th, and 11th. Of course, the real world doesn't work this way...but if a chord is named 7, 9, 11, or 13, it does imply a dominant. That's why we have 6th chords that have a I Major feel.


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