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How about the Sho-Bud LDG?
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Cliff Kane Member Posts: 588 |
posted 20 August 2000 12:50 AM
Hi Folks, in my search for my first PSG I have come across a Sho-Bud LDG model. I have heard good things about these, but I don't personally know much about them (I'm new to all of this). This particular LDG has 3 foot pedals and 4 knee levers, it is triple raise and double lower, the brackets that hold the knee levers are "pot metal", it has a brown birdseye maple finish (not green), plastic fretboard, the logos are "Sho-Bud" on the left and "L.D.G." on the right in black script, it has a "claw" shaped headstock with what look like grover tuners. The case has black tolex and a red felt lining. This is a very clean looking guitar. Given these details, can anyone I.D. the year or era of production and offer an opinion on the LDG and this particular version of it? Any idea on what a fair price on it would be? I'm going to check it out further and I'd like to have a better sense for this guitar. I appreciate the help people have given me from my last post about starting PSG, and I'm excited to be getting closer on actually selecting a guitar. Thank you and best regards, [This message was edited by Cliff Kane on 20 August 2000 at 12:54 AM.] |
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mtulbert Member Posts: 428 |
posted 20 August 2000 03:58 AM
Hi Cliff, I don't know that much about Showbuds but the LDG model has always been considered to be a great guitar. For a first guitar, it would be great because it is plenty of guitar to work yourself in to. The main opinion here is to buy more than just a "Beginning" guitar because you rapidly outgrow it. The LDG would be a great choice. Regards, Mark T. |
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John Drury Member Posts: 779 |
posted 20 August 2000 06:37 AM
Cliff, The LDG's are great guitars. They go for any John Drury |
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Jeff Lampert Member Posts: 2636 |
posted 20 August 2000 06:51 AM
If nice, $ 1000 - $ 1200. |
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Richard Sinkler Member Posts: 2896 |
posted 20 August 2000 12:05 PM
Look to change the parts that the knee lever mounts to. The pot metal ones are weak and may break, usually at a really bad time (on a gig). I was playing an outside gig on the back of a flatbed and while tuning up, I pressed my left knee left (E - D#) and the lever went flying down the side of a hill. Never did find it (too dark). ------------------ |
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Jack Stoner Sysop Posts: 8119 |
posted 20 August 2000 12:29 PM
Bobbe Seymour advertises a replacement for the pot metal part. |
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Jon Light Member Posts: 6528 |
posted 20 August 2000 12:42 PM
About the color--with the few LDGs I've seen, you'd be hard pressed to call them green. Closer to brown/olive. I've heard that this is pretty typical of the way they all have tended to fade. Or was that just a particular vintage of dye? Can anyone confirm/deny? |
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VERNONPRIDDY unregistered Posts: 6528 |
posted 20 August 2000 02:27 PM
Great guitar. the one i had was gree. sonny. |
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VERNONPRIDDY unregistered Posts: 6528 |
posted 20 August 2000 02:28 PM
Sorry i ment green. sonny. |
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Jack Stoner Sysop Posts: 8119 |
posted 20 August 2000 03:48 PM
Vernon, if you make a mistake or want to add to a post, all you have to do is click on the pencil at the top of your post and it will let you edit it. You don't have to do a second post. |
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Randy Reimer Member Posts: 876 |
posted 20 August 2000 05:09 PM
It should be an excellant guitar not only to learn on, but as a keeper. I'm sure you will enjoy it |
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John Drury Member Posts: 779 |
posted 20 August 2000 05:35 PM
Standard color was green but I have seen them in every color Sho-Bud offered. The nicest one I've seen was natural. JMO John Drury |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick Member Posts: 1234 |
posted 20 August 2000 08:16 PM
To John Light: I agree. Most of the LDG's I've seen have faded to an Olive color. Once I was over at Bob Boydds. (He had an LDG with Williams undercarriage, as the Sho-Bud carriage had worn out) He had this guitar torn down. I said, Bob what the he## are you doing. He said, I am going to refinish this thing, it's getting ugly.He stripped the guitar and bought Christmas Tree green leather dye. When refinishing was complete, it was one of the prettiest guitars I have ever seen. Leather dye works great on wood. I guess you learn something every day, right?  BTW, Bob sold the guitar to one of the guys on the Forum. Maybe he'll chime in and tell you how he liked the finish.[This message was edited by Jim Bob Sedgwick on 20 August 2000 at 08:17 PM.] |
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Tommy M Member Posts: 914 |
posted 20 August 2000 08:40 PM
That would be be me Jim. It was and is a beautiful guitar. The prettiest green on an LDG that I'd ever seen. Bobby did an excellent job! By the way: Bobby was a pleasure to deal with and I was saddened to hear of his passing. LDG's are a great guitar. I used one to gear down from a D-10, then purchased my current guitar. ------------------ |
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KENNY KRUPNICK Member Posts: 1729 |
posted 20 August 2000 11:28 PM
The first steel I owned was a LDG.Great guitar to start out on.It has everything you need to work with in the begining without having to add anything.So if the guitar is in good shape,go for it. |
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Ernie Renn Member Posts: 2657 |
posted 21 August 2000 03:20 AM
You know that LDG was for Lloyd Green, but did you know that the D is for his wife, Dot? (Lloyd-Dot-Green) At least that's what I heard. I had one in late '76 until early '77. It sounded great, but just wouldn't stay in tune. I traded it in on my first Emmons D-10 in May of '77. ------------------ |
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Bob Blair Member Posts: 1002 |
posted 21 August 2000 07:08 PM
I had one - a natural birdseye maple, with an aluminum neck. One of the prettiest steels I've ever seen. A real good guitar - it stayed in tune real well. And it always felt comfortable to me. Sounded nice too, though a trifle thin in the very high end, but I don't think that was a characteristic of most LDG's. I don't see how you can go wrong with it - it has everything you need to get going on the E9th, and it will almost certainly hold its value. I wish I hadn't sold mine, but I wanted to get into some C6th and didn't feel I could justify having two steels at that point in my life. |
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Tim Rowley Member Posts: 957 |
posted 21 August 2000 08:23 PM
I'm not certain what the "D" in LDG stands for but it sure don't stand for Lloyd's middle name, which is LaMar! Regardless, most LDG's are great guitars and definitely worth having. One of the best "loafer" guitars ever built. Tim R. |
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Tommy White Member Posts: 869 |
posted 21 August 2000 09:07 PM
Hey Cliff, I have a beautiful green Sho-Bud LDG and I love it! It is one of my favorite steels.It is fun to play and sounds great to my ears. T.W. |
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Lem Smith Member Posts: 1501 |
posted 21 August 2000 09:29 PM
Some of the most beautiful steel work ever recorded was on an L.D.G. Lloyd did countless sessions with his, and IMHO every cut I've ever heard it on was incredible!!! One thing to consider when buying one, is whether or not it is a "real" L.D.G. as there have been several D10's converted over to an S10 w/pad...some probably even having an L.D.G. sticker put on them. A "real" L.D.G. will not have the cutout in the endplate for the C6th neck, but will have only the one for the E9th. ------------------ |
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Jeff Hyman Member Posts: 375 |
posted 22 August 2000 06:16 AM
I've been playing an LDG for close to 25 years. I love the tone. It stays in tune pretty good too. Two things to look out for. Do replace the knee lever holder. Bob Seymore has then. They are not expensive and real easy to replace. Second... the second string may sometimes NOT do a whole lower. Though rare, a simple Dremzel tool on the changer can fix it. I had Sonny Purdum change my older LDG many years ago. I recommend having someone that knows their stuff to make this change. Take the RNR all the way to the right and see if you get a whole lower. Good Luck, |
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Dan Dickey Member Posts: 36 |
posted 22 August 2000 09:09 AM
I recently purchased an LDG from Chuck Brattain here on the forum. It is a beautiful gutar and sounds great. Now if I could just play it right!!! I am very happy with mine and I don't think you could go wrong buying an LDG. I am looking forward to many years of PRACTICE and great music coming from mine. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Chuck Brattain for the help and considerations in dealing with me for the purchase of a great guitar. Dan [This message was edited by Dan Dickey on 22 August 2000 at 09:10 AM.] |
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Tony Rankin Member Posts: 566 |
posted 22 August 2000 01:29 PM
They are indeed great sounding guitars. I heard or read somewhere that the "D" stood for David (David Jackson) of the Sho~Bud company, who had a hand in the development of the guitar. Perhaps Tommy White, Jimmie Crawford, or one of the guys who sees Lloyd regularly could ask him about it. |
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Lefty Member Posts: 742 |
posted 22 August 2000 04:18 PM
I have a Sho-Bud LDG I have been playing for about 17 years. It is a left handed, natural finish. It has the Sperzel tuners as opposed to the grovers. It is all original and stays in tune and sounds good. I am going to consider switching the lever brackets to the machined aluminum Bobby Seymour sells (as ws stated) when I run out of replacements (or before). I've heard the aluminum necks add more sustain, but mine has wood necks and sustains like a mother. My opinion is it is a good investment, and a great E-9th instrument. You could also consider a double neck Sho-Bud that can be had for a little more money, if it fits your budget. Lefty |
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Larry Hendrickson Member Posts: 180 |
posted 22 August 2000 04:32 PM
I bought an LDG last year that had been in a guys closet for 20 years. It's a beautiful green one. The laquer has some hairline cracks in it but that's just from age, if you run your hand over the cracks you can't even feel them. Mine was made in 73 or 74, so this is one that was built before the pot metal parts? It also has the wide pedals and I put a L710 p/u on it. It is a real smooth guitar to play and stays in tune quite well. LH |
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