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Mike Brinkmeyer Member Posts: 129 |
posted 29 April 2001 08:54 PM
Can anyone provide some history on this "Western Strings" album? Was it BE or JD at the steel chair? What year was it recorded? Who were some of the other Cherokee Cowboys who performed on it? (Heard once that Johnny Bush played drums on it but I don't know for certain.) Is it all instrumentals or are there any vocals? I hope to be getting a copy of this soon. P.S. b0b, if this belongs in the "Music" area of the forum, please move. [This message was edited by Mike Brinkmeyer on 29 April 2001 at 08:54 PM.] |
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BobbeSeymour Member Posts: 5664 |
posted 29 April 2001 09:26 PM
It was Buddie! The unofficial,website of, well,you know. |
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John Knight Member Posts: 308 |
posted 29 April 2001 10:30 PM
I think it was Pig Robbins played Piano, Who where the fiddle players???? and guitar player |
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Bobby Bowman Member Posts: 1271 |
posted 29 April 2001 10:54 PM
This is a guess from a muddied memory, but I think Charlie Harris was on guitar, maybe Darrell McCall on bass and maybe Tommy Jackson and Wade Raye on fiddles. I think Charlie did a vocal on "Sing Me a Sad Song" and Wade did one on "Burnt Fingers". It also might feature Buddy doing the "talking/singing steel guitar" on "Burnt Fingers". For some reason, I think I remember Ray also doing a "guest" vocal, but can't remember what song or even for sure that he did a vocal. I'm gonna' guess it was done around '67 to '69. BB ------------------ |
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Craig A Davidson Member Posts: 1722 |
posted 29 April 2001 10:56 PM
I was once told that Buddy and Jimmy both were on the album. Maybe someone can confirm this like Buddy maybe. There are two or three vocals on the album. Some by Ray and one by Wade Ray. Sounds like Tommy Jackson might be on fiddle but I don't know for sure. I didn't know until I bought the CD, but Buddy and Jimmy played on the Night Life album. The session was done on two or three different dates. ------------------ |
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Mike Sweeney Member Posts: 2715 |
posted 29 April 2001 11:42 PM
Craig, Buddy is on the band cuts of the album but, There is the original cut of "Crazy Arms" which was re-released on that album and it had Jimmy Day on it. The fiddle players were Wade Ray and Kieth Coleman. Charlie Harris played guitar and sang "Sing a Sad Song". Wade Ray did sing "Burnt Fingers" with Buddy doing the talking steel. Johnny Bush played drums and Pete Burke played the bass. As far as the year it was more like 1965 instead of '68 or '69 as Bush was on his own by then and by then Buddy was playing bass with Roger Miller in L.A. Mike Sweeney |
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BobbeSeymour Member Posts: 5664 |
posted 29 April 2001 11:54 PM
Gee,and I sent my copy to Buddy 'bout a year ago,He didn't even ask for it,I'm sure he still has it or them. Do ya Buddy? I think that album is a "two parter" . I hope some humor has crept into this album promotion,mailing etc, if not yet , maybe someday. Darn, I am starting to miss it, Buddy, can I have it(them) back? Bobbe |
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Herb Steiner Member Posts: 6119 |
posted 30 April 2001 05:15 AM
According to JBush, Grady Martin was session leader and played lead guitar, Floyd Cramer played piano, fiddles were Coleman, Jackson, and Wade Ray, and Buddy Harmon did some of the drumming. The whole album was cut in 3 sessions in December of 1964. In addition to "Crazy Arms," Price also sings "Take Back Your Old Love Letters." The tempos were perfect because Grady Martin "would tear your head off if you rushed." Price was called "The Lone Arranger" because of his claim to the arrangements of the songs, though he didn't play a lick on the album. No musician credits, except Ray. Buddy has the story if he'd care to share it. ------------------ |
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Craig A Davidson Member Posts: 1722 |
posted 30 April 2001 06:41 AM
Mike, On that cut of Sing A Sad Song I always thought it was Ray. Charlie Harris sounds so much like him. It's a good album and I wish they would put it on CD, cause my Lp is in pretty bad shape. I bought it 25 years ago at a garage sale for $2.00. Wouldn't give it up for anything. In that same purchase I got the Night Life album which Ray later signed for me, and the San Antonio Rose album. ------------------ |
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Mike Sweeney Member Posts: 2715 |
posted 30 April 2001 08:49 AM
Craig, Yes it is a great album. And Charlie Harris was a great singer. And Herb is right about the studio players on the album such as Grady Martin, Floyd Cramer, and Tommy Jackson, and Buddy Harmon. I basically wanted to let you know who the Cherokee Cowboys were at that time. Mike |
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Warren Frid Member Posts: 45 |
posted 01 May 2001 04:29 PM
The complete album is available on CD.It is included with the Bear Family box set that has 12 CD's containing all of Price's Columbia recordings.It's a real treasure and has a full discography.You should be able to find for about $200. In the notes they claim that the band was not loose so Ray sent a gofer out for a jug of Wild Turkey from which everyone took a couple of slugs.....and the rest is history. The albums contain everything that Emmons and Day ever did as well as different arrangments of several numbers that Price kept working on but they never really jelled. WF |
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Fish Member Posts: 81 |
posted 02 May 2001 11:09 AM
The Cherokee Cowboys album is just a classic. The arrangements are cool---- they're "progressive" western swing to my ear, not unlike what Asleep at the Wheel later developed in 1970. Fiddle tunes like "Devil's Dream" come flying out of the gate, then shift to "four-on-the-floor" swing for various extended 32 bar solos. Mr. Emmons jumps between E9 and C6 tunings mid-song with grace and ease. Most of his solos are on the back neck with no holds barred (or is that 'no bars held?'....it's rumored Wild Turkey may have been involved). He swings FURIOUSLY, as jazz reviewers like to say....he kicks a**, as I like to say. If you haven't heard this stuff, please do yourself a favor and find it. It's that good! |
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Joe Goldmark Member Posts: 273 |
posted 02 May 2001 06:14 PM
You know, there's another obscure album by a guy named Austin Wood on the Sure label called "Songs To Remember". Austin can't really sing a lick, but it sounds like he uses the Cherokee Cowboys, and it sounds like the same time frame as the album we're talking about. PLUS, Buddy plays a few smoking instrumentals (Bonaparte's Retreat, Twinkle Star, Snow Flake, Over The Waves). I'd be interested in hearing what Buddy has to say about that session. |
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