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Neil Hilton Member Posts: 155 |
posted 21 May 2001 02:27 PM
I've been listening to alot of great old Carl Smith songs lately, primarily from 1951-56 - the old albums don't have specific picker credits, but there is reference on one about his "steel guitar player, Johnny Sibert" - did he indeed do most of Carl Smith's steel work?? and did he play for others of that era? The steel in Smith's song "There She Goes" is awesome... assume it must have been Sibert? |
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Jason Powers Member Posts: 241 |
posted 21 May 2001 02:46 PM
Neil Yes, it was Johnny Sibert on Carl Smith's record of "There She Goes" and I must agree, his work on there is AWESOME. Jason |
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Jason Powers Member Posts: 241 |
posted 21 May 2001 02:49 PM
I'll also add that I have read on the forum that Mr. Sibert is now a security guard at the Tennesseean newspaper in Nashville. |
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Travis Bolding Member Posts: 45 |
posted 22 May 2001 12:22 AM
About 10 years ago I saw an old film clip of Carl Smith singing on a stage. The only musician visible was a guy litterally hanging off the edge of a chair (knees almost touching the floor) playing a lap steel. I never knew who that guy was, but I will never forget how stunned I was at what he was playing. It was incredible! I don't know what the song was, but it was real up-tempo, and this feller was R-I-P-P-I-N'. I had always only been interested in pedal steel, but after seeing that I started looking for a lap steel, too. It was truly a "steel guitar moment" for me. I would love to see him again. He looked like he was in his 40's and had dark curly hair. Would this have been Mr. Sibert? [This message was edited by Travis Bolding on 22 May 2001 at 12:24 AM.] |
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c c johnson Member Posts: 1353 |
posted 22 May 2001 04:23 AM
If you can get ahold of some of the old half hour opry videos that carl smith is on, they show many closeups of Johhnie on a fender stringmaster. He always uses his A6 neck for Carl, it appears to be aC6 for Goldy Hill and I believe E7 for the other singers. In later yrs Carl used Curly Chalker on a few recordings and live shows such as Panther Hall in Ft Worth. |
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Jon Light Member Posts: 6528 |
posted 22 May 2001 12:45 PM
As always, all are welcome to visit this photo gallery. There are some pics of Mr. Sibert (Siebert, Seibert--I've seen all the above spellings). |
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Paul Graupp Member Posts: 3199 |
posted 22 May 2001 07:39 PM
I recall a beautiful slant position Johnny used on Carl's hit of Mr. Moon. It just seemed to flow into the next position and I have never forgotten it. Regards, Paul |
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b0b Sysop Posts: 8084 |
posted 23 May 2001 10:08 AM
It's not often that I move something to Bar Chatter, but this definitely belongs there. Here goes... |
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Gary Walker Member Posts: 1446 |
posted 23 May 2001 10:43 AM
In the spring of 1969, Carl broke with tradition on steelers and came out with "Good Deal Lucille" with Chalker followed by "I Love You Because" and many others that elevated Curly's signature playing to a new level. In 1970 Carl appeared on the Bill Anderson TV show with Curly and it was a landmark shot with Curly. I became a Carl Smith fan overnight because of the new wave steel brought by The Great Chalker. Am I a Curly fan?. Absolutely. Moe and Larry are OK but there was nobody like Curly. Gary |
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Rick Collins Member Posts: 3286 |
posted 23 May 2001 12:33 PM
I first saw Johnny Sibert (this is the correct spelling, he had his name on his Stringmaster) when I was about 8 years old. He was my inspiration to learn the steel,___when pedals were already on guitars. He had that great Fender sound which no other steel can duplicate. I met him once,___great person, as most, if not all, steelers are. Rick |
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Ray Montee Member Posts: 4090 |
posted 23 May 2001 01:06 PM
JERRY BYRD also did a number of recordings with good ole country boy, Carl Smith; also Goldie Hill!!!! Just for your information. |
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Jody Sanders Member Posts: 2889 |
posted 23 May 2001 02:04 PM
Billy Robinson did some recordings with Carl Smith, and Don Davis possibly. However when you mention 'Carl Smith's steel player", I always say Johnny Sibert.Jody. |
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Jim Smith Member Posts: 6399 |
posted 23 May 2001 04:49 PM
Big Jim Murphy played on at least one album of Carl's. I used to play his instrumental, "Big Murph" from that album. |
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Fernando Fernandez Member Posts: 103 |
posted 23 May 2001 04:51 PM
Yes, there was some great steel guitar players beside Carl Smith ( and Jerry Byrd among them)...but if you say Carl Smith I say JOHNNY SIBERT...What a player!!!!!!!!! That was steel guitar!!!! |
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Bob Carlson Member Posts: 1063 |
posted 23 May 2001 05:33 PM
Goldie Hill has been Mrs Carl Smith ever since June Carter found out they were doing more than singing togather. I have 14 VCR tapes of that program they had on TNN of all the old shows that had been on, (Pop goes the county etc..can't remember It's name) and one Is of Carl Smith singing "Hey Joe" with Seibert playing a double neck steel. Don't remember It having any pedals but he played on the front neck. He really wound It up. Bob Carlson |
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Bill Cunningham Member Posts: 381 |
posted 23 May 2001 11:35 PM
I would love to get a copy of the Carl Smith stuff with Curly on steel. Is ot on CD? If not, would someone be willing to copy it for me? I would like a copy of the TV shows with Curly also. Thanks, ------------------ |
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George Mc Lellan Member Posts: 1282 |
posted 24 May 2001 03:25 AM
I have a few video tapes from the "Outlaw Channel" that Willie Nelson had for a while. One clip of Carl Smith shows Johhny playing an Emmons D10. He was on the C6th neck for this particular song. I had the pleasure of speaking briefly with him in St. Louis at the ISGC the year he was inducted into the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame. He had his Fender on display in the lobby. It makes me wonder why so much talent walked away from pickin?????????? ------------------ |
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Bob Carlson Member Posts: 1063 |
posted 24 May 2001 08:58 PM
I don't think Seibert ever switched to pedals. Bob Carlson |
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Rick Collins Member Posts: 3286 |
posted 24 May 2001 11:03 PM
Gary Walker, I too am a Curly fan; but Johnny Sibert and Carl Smith go together like Johnny Cash and Luther. Sibert's playing, although a different style than Jerry Byrd's was like Byrd's by the fact that they are relatively simple but very expressive. Some players project this quality no matter what tune they happen to be playing. Rick |
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George Mc Lellan Member Posts: 1282 |
posted 25 May 2001 03:16 AM
Bob, there is no mistake that it was an Emmons D10 w/pedals. Whether he used them or not, I can't tell, but shown on the few video clips that I have, the Emmons logo and pedal rods can be seen very clearly. ------------------ [This message was edited by George Mc Lellan on 25 May 2001 at 07:46 AM.] |
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Larry Miller Member Posts: 975 |
posted 25 May 2001 03:38 AM
[Quote: "I don't think Siebert ever switched to pedals",I saw him on an old Porter Waggoner show playing an Emmons with pedals. [This message was edited by Larry Miller on 25 May 2001 at 03:39 AM.] [This message was edited by Larry Miller on 25 May 2001 at 03:40 AM.] |
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Neil Hilton Member Posts: 155 |
posted 25 May 2001 10:09 AM
Bob C. - does your collection of video happen to include any 1960's-early70's clips of Haggard, with Norm and Roy working their magic??? man, I'd love to happen on to some old footage of the Strangers some day - no avenue for that ever seems to surface? PS - thanks fellers for the great Carl Smith / Johnny Sibert posts to my basic inquiry, more info than I could have imagined - Carl was my Grandpa's favorite, I really inherited some good vibes along the way! |
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