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KEVIN WALKER Member Posts: 208 |
posted 29 August 1999 09:39 AM
I was wondering if anyone out there may be able to help me out on this one. I just bought a new Lexicon processor a couple of weeks ago, and have constantly played with this thing, but it seems to produce the exact same scenario that my ART processor produced. This would be creating a very thin, cheesy tone; that I just cannot abide. I'm considering sending this thing back, but I figured, since this thing seems to be real popular among steel players, that I would see if I could, possibly, come up with a solution to this problem thru' the forum. This is the usual way I hook up: Guitar to RAT fuzz to LEXICON directly into SESSION 500 or NASHVILLE 400 input. I have always used the pedal or effects loop on the front of the amp for volume pedal patch only. I use standard, good quality, off the shelf guitar cable to hook this stuff up. One thing I've noticed: The Lexicon has a mix control that basically mixes a wet and dry amp signal. I can turn this thing all the way to a dry signal, and hear my amplifier tone and power come back to what I think it should be. Any suggestions, I hope? Thanks in advance, ,Kevin |
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Lee Baucum Member Posts: 3201 |
posted 29 August 1999 05:43 PM
Kevin - This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say that the Lex changes the tone of their guitar. I've had one for about 8 months now and absolutely love it. I just wonder if the Lex doesn't like the signal it's getting from the Rat unit. Have you tried taking it out of the chain? Where do you set the mix control? I usually set mine to between 10 and 11 o'clock. I run my Mullen into a Keith Hilton Digital Sustain, then to a Goodrich volume pedal, out to the Lex, and then to an Evans and a Nashville 400. I don't hear any change in the tone when using the Lex. Maybe one of the more technical guys can help out here. Lee, from South Texas |
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Bobby Lee Sysop Posts: 14849 |
posted 29 August 1999 06:37 PM
You would generally want a reverb/echo unit like the Lexicon after the volume pedal, I think. ------------------ |
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Mike Fried Member Posts: 285 |
posted 29 August 1999 07:09 PM
b0b is right about patching the reverb/delay effects after the volume pedal. I would patch the Lex in the post-eq effects loop by itself, or at least after the volume pedal if only using the one loop. Post-volume, the pedal won't cut off the reverb/delay tail, providing a more natural effect. As for the thin, cheesy sound, are you sure that you're using the right (mono) input and output? If so, then it sounds like a defective unit. BTW, I run my mix control at 9:30- 11:00 depending on the patch. |
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C Allen Member Posts: 441 |
posted 29 August 1999 08:14 PM
Bob has the right idea. I go direct from guitar to amp; V.pedal to the efx loop on the front of the amp; I put my Lexico, through the back of the amp. Power Amp Out to input on proccessor; output of proccessor to Power Amp IN, on amp. The cleanes way to do it. If you must run a Fuzz,( and I can't imagine why) put it ahead of the Lexicon ------------------ |
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Earnest Bovine Member Posts: 4687 |
posted 30 August 1999 01:14 AM
Kevin Do all the programs sound thin and cheesy, or just some of them? |
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Peter Dollard Member Posts: 705 |
posted 30 August 1999 08:54 AM
I run mine guitar into volume pedal into Lexicon into amp...that way I can set the input level of the Lexicon so it will not distort. When i use the effects loop it seems to lose some definition on the programs....Pete. |
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KEVIN WALKER Member Posts: 208 |
posted 30 August 1999 11:05 AM
Thanks for the replies to this question. From what I'm gathering here, it seems like everybody is going directly to input and totally bypassing the front end effects loop, i.e., what Peavey calls a volume pedal patch. I'll try this hook-up this evening and see what it sounds like. C.Allen, Did you mean pre-amp? There is no power amp out on either one of these amps. Ernest Bovine, Yes, at this point, pretty much all the programs sound about the same. I appreciate the input everyone. I'll see how these suggestions work later on tonight. Thanks, ,Kevin |
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KEVIN WALKER Member Posts: 208 |
posted 30 August 1999 11:09 AM
Thanks for the replies to this question. From what I'm gathering here, it seems like everybody is going directly to input and totally bypassing the front end effects loop, i.e., what Peavey calls a volume pedal patch. I'll try this hook-up this evening and see what it sounds like. C.Allen: Did you mean pre-amp? There is no power amp out on either one of these amps. Earnest Bovine: Yes, at this point, pretty much all the programs sound about the same. I appreciate the input everyone. I'll see how these suggestions work later on tonight. Thanks, ,Kevin |
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C Allen Member Posts: 441 |
posted 30 August 1999 05:07 PM
Yes sir I did. I'm looking at mine, now.On the Peavey; PRE-AMP OUT, to input on proccessor. On the Proccessor; OUTPUT to POWER AMP IN, on Peavey. ( Oh GOD, Monday night Football.YUKKKKKK!!!!!) Anyway, go direct from your guitar, to the input on you Peavey. Use the Pre E.Q. Patch on the Peavey, to drive your volume pedal.(out, to input of your pedal, output of your pedal to input on the pre E.Q.) That should fix you up. I don't like going straight to the proccessor, cuz it tends to choke off the effect, when you back the volume pedal off. The effect doesn't seem consistent from full on to low. This way you won't be overdriving the input side of the proccessor either. You get the full effect, throught the full range of the volime pedal ------------------ |
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TexHimler New Member Posts: 3 |
posted 30 August 1999 05:08 PM
I am currently using a MPX100 on my rig, and I find it difficult to capture the right combo of reverb/delay. There doesn't seem to be a program that contains my favorite reverb and the type of delay that I find appropriate. I'm using a HHB Radius 40 mic pre. It has pre/ tube EQ/ tube comp. I'm going in to my Lex via the 1/4" jack on the output of the HHB(-10). Maybe it's the Lex, but I haven't been pleased with my tone so far. I'm taking my old intellifex out this trip to compare apples & oranges. Any comments on the HHB? Thanks Tex |
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Lee Baucum Member Posts: 3201 |
posted 30 August 1999 08:41 PM
Tex - Here is what I'm using for a combination of reverb and delay: Delay/Reverb Variation 7 or 11 Tap in a delay to fit the song. By the way, I'm using 2 amps. Lee, from South Texas |
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TexHimler New Member Posts: 3 |
posted 30 August 1999 10:25 PM
Thanks Lee. I'll try it out while I'm on the road this week. I'm also going to try one of those little Boss reverb/delay stomp boxes just for kicks. |
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