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Missy James
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posted 21 May 2000 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missy James     
Somewhere in the far reaches of my memory, it seems to me that correct technique for right hand is to dampen the last string played just prior to picking the next note....Correct????

Well, I'm having some trouble getting a hand position (i.e., finger curl, hand angle, pick adjustments) that feels just right and can't seem to be able to dampen the strings like I need to. Can some of you respond and tell me how your right hand "feels" or "looks like" when you're holding correct position??? Thanks!

Jeff Lampert
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posted 21 May 2000 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
Missy,
Search around the postings in Bar Chatter. Many of the players have web site links that include, among other things, pictures of themselves playing, and they usually have gone out of the way to make sure that they are showing correct hand positioning. If I happen to notice one, I'll send you the link. .. Jeff


Moon in Alaska
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posted 21 May 2000 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon in Alaska     
Missy, I think the main thing is to learn to usae the little crease in your palm which is near your little finger. This crease don't block good so you keep this crease at least out past the highest string you are using at any given time. In other words, if you are playing the 4th and 6th string, your right hand extends across the string far enough that the crease is past the 4th string. Moving your right hand back and forth is strange at first, but believe me, it will become automatic with pratice. Your right hand will end up in a 45 degree angle across the strings. Good Luck !!

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Bob Hoffnar
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posted 21 May 2000 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hoffnar     
Jeff Newman's vid "Right Hand Alfa":
www.jeffran.com/

Lots of information on this issue on Joe Wright's site:
www.pedalsteel.com/

The best thing is to find a teacher to make sure you are on the right track. Other than that you need to practice alot. It takes a while. I think it is the most difficult part of playing the steel.

Bob

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Steve Feldman
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posted 21 May 2000 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Feldman     
what bob said...


Richard Sinkler
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posted 21 May 2000 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Sinkler     
What Steve said...

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Lem Smith
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posted 21 May 2000 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lem Smith     
These three links are to the pictures of Lloyd Green playing his famous fingertip tuner Sho~Bud. They are some pretty good shots of his hand positions. Hope this helps.

Lem
http://www.planet.eon.net/~gsimmons/shobud/images/lloyd2.jpg
http://www.planet.eon.net/~gsimmons/shobud/images/lloyd1.jpg
http://www.planet.eon.net/~gsimmons/shobud/images/lloyd3.jpg

Thanks to Greg and the Sho~Bud site for having these pictures!!!

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David Weaver
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posted 22 May 2000 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Weaver     
All of the above.

Try this:
1. Put your right hand on a desk as if doing a karate chop.

2. Roll your hand to a 45 degree angle toward the palm.

3. Curl your middle finger back toward you, under the thumb.Let your other fingers relax and curl a bit.

4. Extend your thumb a bit as if you were using a thumbpick. Parallel to were strings would be. Your wrist will curl just a little.

5. Relax your middle finger a little and let it fit into a natural picking position. If I've done this correctly, your hand should be in a pyramid shape, and if you watch the crease...as mentioned above, it should sit on or above the string you are picking.

My little finger extends a bit, although it is quite curled...as are all the fingers, and sometimes I use the little finger to hold the first string...just for reference.

Bounce your hand up and down a few times and it will start to take a natural shape.

There should be a pyramid look to your hand with the first knuckle on top.

The dampening occurs along the side of the hand. The part you "bounce".

[This message was edited by David Weaver on 22 May 2000 at 02:46 PM.]

[This message was edited by David Weaver on 22 May 2000 at 02:49 PM.]



Jeff Lampert
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posted 22 May 2000 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
Hey David,
Pretty good description for something that is tough to describe. .. Jeff


Curry Coster
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posted 22 May 2000 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curry Coster     
Missy-
I find that it helps me keep my hand in the
proper position if I keep my right elbow close to my side. This keeps my right arm
perpendicular to the strings and makes moving
my hand back and forth easier. Always move your right hand slightly forward or back to get to a string-don't reach out for it with your finger. Works for me.
Curry


Moon in Alaska
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posted 22 May 2000 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon in Alaska     
I think David must be a TEACHER !! That explanation was really GOOOOOOOOD !!


David Weaver
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posted 23 May 2000 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Weaver     
Thanks fellas!

Nah, I aint the teacher.

I'm just the nerdy student who raises his hand at the end of the class and says "Teacher, Teacher !! You forgot to give us the homework!"



Missy James
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posted 24 May 2000 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missy James     
Thanks, David - great stuff. BTW, I was one of those nerds, too....


Dan Behringer
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posted 28 May 2000 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Behringer     
Missy,
Here's a couple of idea's that I used when trying to learn the impossible act of string muting.

#1 Start Slow
If you can't do it slow, you'll never do it fast. Concentrate on hitting and muting one string at a time. As you improve then you'll slowly ween away from concentrating.

#2 Keep It Simple
I practiced on strings 4-5-6 (on my E 9th c.), doing foward and backward rolls, and simple tunes like "In The Mood", until I started to get the hang of it. Then I branched out to other strings.

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BJ Bailey
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posted 28 May 2000 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BJ Bailey     
David I also must say thats a good demo to pass on thanks.

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