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Topic: Gold Tone lap steel
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Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 19 January 2002 04:29 PM
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We just got one of these new Gold Tone lap steels in today at Downtown Sounds where I teach. It appears to be an import copy of an old Gibson? Does anyone know which steel guitar this instrument is "modeled" after? The volume and tone knobs are replicas of the 50's gold Gibson knobs. It has actual metal frets, even though it has a raised nut and it's a square neck. It's a nice looking lap steel. Looks a little like the old wood body Oahus too (Diana, Tonemaster).Anyone who wants a price quote from Downtown Sounds on an in stock Gold Tone lap steel can email the store owner directly for price quotes and other info at doug@downtownsounds.com
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Brad Bechtel
Moderator From: San Francisco, CA
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posted 19 January 2002 04:43 PM
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That instrument is a dead ringer for an Oahu Tonemaster lap steel. Nothing Gibson about it!
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Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 19 January 2002 04:45 PM
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Thanks Brad, I should have checked the photos on your site before I posted!  |
Gerald Ross
Member From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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posted 20 January 2002 06:41 AM
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Hey Doug,
How about some more details on the guitar. What are you guys selling it for? How does it play/sound? (is an objective review possible if you work in the store?). Does Gold Tone make more models?------------------
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Ian McLatchie
Member From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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posted 20 January 2002 08:41 AM
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Thanks for posting this, Doug. I hadn't heard of this brand, and will add it to the list of steel guitar brands I'm compiling. I'm trying to verify a number of items on that list, and will post the amended version within a week or so. As Brad says, this looks like a close copy of an Oahu Tonemaster, except for the pickup. Where was this instrument made, and how's the sound? |
Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 20 January 2002 08:46 AM
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Gerald,I'll get more details on the Gold Tone in a couple of days when I get back to the store. I just teach at the store, I have nothing to do with sales, so I think my assessment will be pretty objective.
Gold Tone makes mostly b@nj0s. I believe they're imports (Korea, China?) and they are fairly low end instruments. I was stunned when I saw the lap steel because I'm used to seeing similar old lap steels that are usually beat up... this one is all shiny new!
I'll add more info / price, etc. within a day or two. Again... this is just an informational post, not an ad. db ------------------
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Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 20 January 2002 08:56 AM
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Ian, that list is growing by the day! Seems like every steel player knows of some obscure brand that was built in some nook and cranny long ago. ------------------
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Jason Lollar
Member From: Seattle area
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posted 21 January 2002 03:14 PM
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I just had an original Oahu Tonemaster in my shop and that guitar is a dead ringer.
The pickup in the original is really hot.
Overdrive occurs on a Fender amp with the volume set at 2 and 3/4. The tone still has plenty of top end and clarity unlike a modern high output pickup.
If anyone wants a steel to play some really ratty Delta music the original tonemaster would be pretty good for it.
The pickup this one had has 2 large alnico magnets mounted externally under the coil attached to a couple of steel plates, pretty easy to duplicate in this case.I sat in last night with some rockers in thier mid 20's and as soon as a couple licks came out of that Tonemaster they all got a big grin on thier face that wouldnt come off. I wouldnt want to play one all the time, its too much, but in certain situations its great. The tone control will mellow it out though.
Construction on them is pretty nice, kind of ugly though IMHO. |
Ian McLatchie
Member From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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posted 22 January 2002 01:31 PM
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Jason: I agree with your assessment of the Tonemaster sound. I owned one only for a short time (you buy toys, you sell toys...), and really hated to part with it. It overdrived (overdrove?) practically before the amp was turned on, and had a distinctive "springy" tone, largely the result of the long scale length, I think (over 25", as I recall). As you say, not an instrument for every occasion, but a really fun guitar to have around. |
Jason Lollar
Member From: Seattle area
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posted 22 January 2002 06:56 PM
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I hope we didnt just make the price raise on them! |
Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 22 January 2002 10:11 PM
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I played the Gold Tone lap steel today and I love it! The pickup is very powerful. It's got far more punch than any older lap steel I've ever owned (Fenders, Rick, Nationals). The guitar has plenty of sustain and low end and lots of clean biting highs. I played it through a new Fender Deluxe amp with the volume on the amp below 1, and I felt like a had a "wall of sound" behind me. I'd play this lap steel anywhere... on any gig. Single coil pickup, like a P-90 (a little wider than a regular single coil pickup). Solid wood body, Tobacco Sunburst finish with binding. Controls: volume and tone. Knobs: Gold "top hat style", like vintage Gibson. Here's how Gold Tone describes the instrument on it's site:
Original Hawaiian design
Solid wood for sustain
Hand rest
Sealed guitar tuners
Hot pick-up
I didn't take any measurements, but the string spacing seemed to be quite comfortable for bar slants. The retail price is $325 (without a case). ------------------
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Jason Lollar
Member From: Seattle area
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posted 22 January 2002 11:20 PM
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When I looked at the goldtone site before I posted about what the originals sound like I was thinking "sure it looks like one but I bet it doesnt sound like one"
Sounds like they hit the mark or right above it.
I told the owner of the one I had in the shop "I would play that". The guy that owns it doesnt know how to play steel.
I like the overdrive when it still has that much clarity, alot of pickups get muddy when they drive that hard but I also like a squeaky clean tone too.
Needless to say I got pretty excited about it (I shut down the shop for almost 2 hours and played) and I think everyone in a 3 block raduis did too wether they wanted to or not  [This message was edited by Jason Lollar on 22 January 2002 at 11:34 PM.] [This message was edited by Jason Lollar on 22 January 2002 at 11:35 PM.] |
Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 23 January 2002 07:47 AM
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I know what you mean Jason, I got pretty excited playing the new Gold Tone "Tonemaster". I only got about 1/2 hour of playing time on it... and I couldn't put it down! A friend of mine was drawn into the store when he heard the steel... from outside. This is one powerful little tiger, and a lot of steel for not too much money. I'm going to play it again today and try using different amps (tubes, solid state). Maybe I'd should take my checkbook with me?? ------------------
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David Siegler
Member From: Mill Valley, CA USA
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posted 29 January 2002 10:09 PM
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I was interested in Doug's posts regarding this guitar. Thanks for starting it! I've ordered one which should be arriving any day now. In pursuing more information on it I exhanged some emails with Wayne Rogers the President of Gold Tone. Wayne asked me if I would post the following message to the forum: "Hello Folks, I've had quite a few inquiries to comment on the lap steel my company is presently selling. First off, our company, Gold Tone specializes in producing high quality instruments in a reasonable price range. We have been successful with banjos for 10 years, and more recently solid body upright basses, mandolins and other instruments. Our method for quality and economic price is to design instruments with prototypes, pay many $'s for tooling and then assemble and/or set up in our Florida factory. The parts are made by the premier factory in Korea, which rivals any U.S. factory for workmanship and quality. The LS Lap Steel is obviously a replica of a very historical steel. I have owned an original since my teenage years and thought it to be a marvelous instrument perfectly designed for its intentions. Although it was possible to make any additions or improvements there was no need and I was determined to get a replica as close as possible. Although tooling was expensive, it was imperative on this guitar so the tone, response, and look would duplicate the original. The response from owners has exceeded our expectations. It was recently debuted at the Annaheim NAMM show last week. Players where amazed at the playability and tone, and an endorsement was made with Gary Morse, the incredible steel player from Dwight Yokam's band, who plans to use it on future recordings. Also the legendary John Pearse (another endorsee) was quite impressed with the LS as he is a lap steel player and fan, and has a wide collection including the steel used on some of Patsy Clines recordings. Most of all, I am quite proud to offer this instrument at an extremely affordable price of 399.00 retail. Hopefully its affordability and quality will interest musicians and generate even more popularity in the lap steel. Many thanks to the kind comments on this page. Wayne Rogers
President
Goldtone.com
Goldtone1@aol.com " |
Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 29 January 2002 10:49 PM
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Thanks for sharing that David. Very informative and interesting to learn about the background and production of this instrument. It's great to hear that the company's President is a lap steel fan! I know that you'll enjoy your new steel guitar. I play the Gold Tone steel in the shop every chance I get, and I'm still blown away by the high output pickup. Did you order your's through a local music store or on line? I'm thinking about buying one... I just need to justify having a 6 string steel guitar when I have a double 6, a double 8, a triple 8, a D-10 PSG, dobro, a few guitars, bass, etc, etc, etc. ------------------
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David Siegler
Member From: Mill Valley, CA USA
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posted 30 January 2002 01:03 AM
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Doug,No one local had it so I ordered online from someone Wayne recommended - Richard Hefner of http://www.thebanjostore.com/ He gave me a good price and said I can return it if I don't like it. Since they're so new he hadn't seen one yet and mine was drop shipped from Gold Tone in Florida. It should arrive tomorrow! It seems like Downtown Sounds where you teach has one of the only ones in the retail channel. I justified it as a birthday present to myself. I'll get rid of an old Gibson BR-9 six string and maybe my Chandler 6 string if I like the Gold Tone.[This message was edited by David Siegler on 30 January 2002 at 01:04 AM.] |
Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 30 January 2002 10:33 AM
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Dave, let us know what you think of the Gold Tone when it arrives. Also... did you get a case with it? I'm interested to know what kind of case (if any) is available with this lap steel. Yes, Downtown Sounds is always well stocked! Fender, Martin, Taylor, Peavey, Alesis, Sure, Zildian, Pearl, Tascam, Yamaha, Boss, Roland, Godin, Brian Moore..etc... We have several Gold Tone b@nj0$, and I'm really happy that the store owner ordered their new lap steel. The owner has attended the NAMM show every year for over 25 years... and that's 3000 miles away! Enjoy your new birthday present! ------------------
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Geoff Brown
Member From: Nashvegas
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posted 08 February 2002 03:33 PM
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Dare I say it here? Gold Tone banjos are pretty nice too |
Doug Beaumier
Member From: Northampton, MA
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posted 14 June 2002 05:47 PM
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Hardshell cases are now available for the Gold Tone lap steel. They appear to be "modified" Gold Tone banjo cases... factory modified that is. The case is slightly larger than it needs to be, and the lap steel fits very snugly into a soft molded section within the case. Very nice, and the guitar is well protected. Anyone who wants a price quote from Downtown Sounds on an in stock Gold Tone lap steel can email the store owner directly for price quotes and other info at doug@downtownsounds.com Other in stock items of interest to steel players are: Goodrich volume pedals
Fender amps
Dunlop bars
Carter Starters... etc, etc... Or call Downtown Sounds at 413-586-0998 or toll free at 800-564-8863 ------------------
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