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Topic: help tune a 7 string dobro
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bill dearmore Member From: Belton,Tx.,USA
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posted 03 April 2002 06:22 PM
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Hi Gang, a friend has loaned me his 7 string Sho-Bud Dobro and I haven't a clue how to tune it! Ideas? Help! LOL. Thanks,Bill |
Ricky Davis Moderator From: Austin, Texas
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posted 03 April 2002 07:32 PM
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Low to high. C E G A C E G Your very used to that Bill....and you'll love it. But if you want the more traditional open G. Low to High. G B D E G B D. Have fun. Ricky |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 03 April 2002 09:01 PM
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This belongs in "No Peddlers", so I'm moving it.Shot tuned his to E major: E G# B E G# B E ------------------
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Andy Greatrix Member From: Edmonton Alberta
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posted 03 April 2002 09:43 PM
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If you play a lot of bluegrass, use Shot's intervals and tune from G to G. low to high- G B D G B D G It works for Blues, Bluegrass, and Shot licks. Happy picking! |
Ric Nelson Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland
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posted 04 April 2002 06:34 AM
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An E-tuning works great with my 7-string. I have used that tuning since about 1957 when I first met Shot Jackson. It is listed in Bobbie Lee's post above.The most natural tuning for any acoustical guitar is E. On a Spanish guitar, an E cord gives the instrument's full tonal quality. If you are playing a dobro with Bluegrass, E will work fine, except for the open G stuff that sounds like a b*anjo anyway. Oddly enough, Kenny Haddock, a fine dobro player, when on the Country Gentleman's sessions, played some licks similar to Shot's, but in a G tuning.(Starday "If That's the Way You Feel", I Know That's I've Lost You", "Willie Roy", to name a few). Kenny is still an avid Shot fan. Shot played some Bluegrass sessions as well, in E. One with the Osborne Bros (MGM, 4 tracks) and another session with Roy Clark and several sessions (over 20 tracks)with the Louven Bros.in their final days. Check it out and see how well E can work with Bluegrass. But for those who wish to sound like everybody else, it may not be worth the effort. Playing in E is a little different than playing in G. If Bluegrass is not your bag, you'll find that an E tuning will give you a great number of possibilities. What kind of 7-string do you have? |
Herb Steiner Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX
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posted 04 April 2002 08:02 AM
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I don't believe you're gonna get that first string up to a G note with a string that will respond properly; in other words, it'll be such a thin string as to not excite the resonator enough to get a solid sound.I had an 8-stringer that didn't make it with the C6 tuning tone-wise, so I went to the G6 listed above. Much better, IMHO, for the "dobro" sound. If you want the C6 sound, go with (low to high) A C E G A C E ------------------ Herb's Steel Guitar Pages Texas Steel Guitar Association |
mikey Member From: Hawaii, Big Island
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posted 04 April 2002 08:53 AM
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I tuned mine E7, E,B,D,E,G#,B,E Mike |
Erv Niehaus Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 04 April 2002 10:27 AM
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I agree with Herb. I have an E on the first string. Anthing higher just didn't work out. I tune my dobro to an A high bass tuning. It's the same as the G tuning only one tone higher. I think Bashful Brother Oswald also used this tuning. No reason other than I originally learned steel (Hawaiian) on this tuning and I'm to long in the tooth to change now!  Uff-Da! P.S. Actually I use an A6th tuning with a F# thrown in there.[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 04 April 2002 at 10:33 AM.] |
Ric Nelson Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland
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posted 04 April 2002 12:16 PM
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Herb: You bring up a very good point that is well taken. I never thought about it. It also raises the question as to the preasure caused to the neck and resonator that a first string would bring, even an .011 or .012, tuned up to G. BTW, Pete Kirby (Oswald) does (did) use that A tuning.
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Ricky Davis Moderator From: Austin, Texas
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posted 05 April 2002 12:24 AM
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Yeah Brother Herb has a good point on that high G note; as I have not ever personally tried it...but was suggesting familiarity...which I'm not keen to either. I always tuned to G or on a 7string that G6. Well sometimes on a 6stringer...I would take the G tuning to a A6...but yeah I agree; a thin string ain't gunna resognate worth a dang. Ricky |
mikey Member From: Hawaii, Big Island
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posted 05 April 2002 09:49 AM
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After reading the other posts..I think EVERYONE should find a copy of Shot Jackson's Record..."Bluegrass Dobro" (Cumberland 69513)long out of print, but it really shows what a 7 string Sho-Bro can do tuned to E in a bluegrass setting.I always come back to that record for an alternative way of thinking beyond G (or A) in Bluegrass. It's worth searching out.... Mike |
Gary C. Dygert Member From: Frankfort, NY, USA
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posted 04 May 2002 08:02 PM
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I love this stuff. It seems as tho people are afraid to discuss this on Jerry Douglas' site, as if it ain't bluegrass unless it's tuned G. Thenks to everybody for all of the tuning ideas. |
Pete Grant Member From: Auburn, CA, USA
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posted 05 May 2002 12:19 AM
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I used to use a .012 on my tuning of GDGBDG (low to high) and it worked just fine.If you want to play fiddle tunes and ountry and bluegrass tunes _and_ want to take advantage of the deep sound of that ShoBro, try: D F# A D F# A D It's a whole step lower than Shot's E tuning If you can get an .068 string for the low D it works great. |
Terry Miller Member From: Hammondsport NY USA
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posted 06 May 2002 03:03 PM
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Herb you are right. You can not get the response from the resonator. I have tried this tuning many times. If you whant to use an E tuning,7 string, for blue grass, use a capo. The guitar will respond in the proper maner. Terry |
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 06 May 2002 04:56 PM
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If Oswald used A "normal" 1st string, tuned to E, then why wouldn't a .012 tune to G? I tune my .013 1st string to E for G6 all the time, and nothing's caved in yet! |
Terry Miller Member From: Hammondsport NY USA
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posted 06 May 2002 07:34 PM
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Stephen,you are right, it didn't cave in. If you try to tune that 013 to a G, something will. If you go to a string like an .011, it will not activate the cone to give an even level of volume or tone in conjuction with the other strings. Terry |