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Steve Pierce
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From: San Rafael, California, USA

posted 26 December 2002 03:55 PM     profile   send email     edit
What guage strings do you use on your acoustic Oahu squareneck guitar? Or, what guage strings would you use if you were playing in standard GBDGBD tuning?

I got one off Ebay recently and the neck and bridge show signs of being over-stressed. The stings are not parallel to the fretboard (the fretboard slopes away from the strings) and the bridge looks like it is pulling up. The top of the guitar is "unflat" and I am guessing it is due to years of heavy strings. Luckily I did not spend much money on this instrument, but can it be fixed? Is it even worth fixing? It is still playable.

With strings guaged .053, .042, .032, .024W, .020P, .016P, the strings seemed too tight, so I tuned down to FACFAC. I would prefer to be in G tuning, so how much lighter do I need to go?

Any thoughts and experience would be greatly apprechiated!

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Steve Pierce

Ian McLatchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

posted 26 December 2002 06:21 PM     profile   send email     edit
Steve: I have a Kay-made Hawaiian squareneck which says Hager on the peghead, but is an Oahu in all but name. Like the better quality Oahus, it has a long scale, almost 26", if I remember. If I were to tune it in simple G, I certainly wouldn't use anything close to standard Dobro gauge strings, both because it would put far too much pressure on the straight-braced, screw-on-bridge top, and because I find it sounds much better with relatively light-gauge strings. As a reference point, I usually use an .011 or .012 when the first string is tuned to D. Fat strings still won't give these guitars Dobro-like volume, and lighter ones really bring out the sweet tone that is their strength, I think. With a good quality sound hole pickup, the sound is gorgeous.

[This message was edited by Ian McLatchie on 27 December 2002 at 06:54 AM.]

Brad Bechtel
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From: San Francisco, CA

posted 27 December 2002 08:39 AM     profile   send email     edit
I own an Oahu squareneck, and I have no idea what model number it is. Anybody have a catalog out there?
It's currently tuned to open D (bass to treble D A D F# A D) with a string set from .056 to .013. I think if I were going to be using open G tuning, I'd use a similar set, possibly have lighter bass strings.
It sure is a nice sounding instrument - probably my best sounding acoustic steel guitar.

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R. L. Jones
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From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA

posted 27 December 2002 08:42 AM     profile   send email     edit
You May consider changing the set up some.
like buy a tailpiece, fasten it to the bottom end. It seems the neck may have a problem, after you remove the strings, or better loosen them,try moving the neck, If it is loose you may have to remove it Then re glue it back on.

How do you do that?? It probably has hide glue, if so use a heat lamp ,try not to scorch the finish, wave thelamp over the area not too close. All of this may not work ,but think of the fun you can have if it does.

Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 27 December 2002 11:25 AM     profile   send email     edit
I used to have a Bronson squareneck, which was a cousin to the student-quality Oahus. I used .056 to .013 for GBDGBD tuning. It wasn't very loud, but it had a nice sweet tone.
R. L. Jones
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From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA

posted 27 December 2002 08:41 PM     profile   send email     edit
I should have gone a little farther with my response.

To make the top flat again, take the strings off, get a towel put it inside ,soak it with water, let it soak awhile, the idea is to get the wood wet, use C clamps , board inside ,one outside, clamp and let dry ,you may want to use a light bulb inside to help it dry flat. Some may think this is a little radicle ,but it works.

Using a tailpiece the pull will be from end to end ,not on the bridge, Hey I pulled the bridge off on a guitar I was using like that.

Whatever you decide to do , I wish you good luck.

R. L.

Mike D
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From: Phx, Az

posted 28 December 2002 07:34 AM     profile   send email     edit
Umm, yes I would say that was a bit 'radical' and not a good idea.
A small belly on a guitar is not a bad thing. if it's extreme it's likely because the bracing has come loose. Putting water and heat inside a guitar that was put together with hide glue is asking for trouble.

Steve if the bridge is indeed lifting it can be rmoved with heat, cleaned up and reglued. You can use a small mirror to check for any loose braces and these can be reglued. You might check out www.FRETS.com on these subjects or take it to a local repairman.
The neck joint should be checked also.

I think Brad's use of a set of mediums in a slacked tuning is a good choice.

Pete Grant
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From: Auburn, CA, USA

posted 28 December 2002 11:09 AM     profile   send email     edit
I use a larger set than Brad on my squareneck Oahu (teacher's model), also tuned to D. My bottom string is a .068 bronze and the top is a .017. It does have a 'belly' as one might expect. It sounds great, too.
Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 29 December 2002 11:42 AM     profile   send email     edit
Here's a store that has one listed for $275.
http://members.tripod.com/~oldmossback/gaillake.html#resonator
Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 29 December 2002 11:52 AM     profile   send email     edit
I believe the guitar in Andy's post is a student model (almost identical to the Bronson I used to have). I believe this one is a teacher's guitar: http://www.guitaremporium.com/inventory/photos/89-f.JPG

Although it's pretty hard to find much information about Oahu guitars, there is a web site worth checkin gout: http://www.toad.net/~harpe/oahu.htm

[This message was edited by Russ Young on 29 December 2002 at 11:56 AM.]

Pete Grant
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From: Auburn, CA, USA

posted 29 December 2002 12:16 PM     profile   send email     edit
The teacher's guitar is like the two at the top of the Oahu link above on toad.net. They come in rosewood and maple. Mine is maple and has a smaller upper bout than the one pictured. The neck is virtually identical.
Max Laine
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From: Pori, Finland

posted 29 December 2002 02:13 PM     profile   send email     edit
Some nice Oahu's for sale in Paris: http://www.rfcharle.com/HTML/ListeA.html
R. L. Jones
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From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA

posted 29 December 2002 04:55 PM     profile   send email     edit
Go to your local library, They have books on Guitar Building, Guitar repairs, etc.

You can learn a lot from the local librarirs. Thats how I found out how my guitar neck was fastened , how to remove it , put it back together, do this first and if you`re any kind of craftsman, you can fix your guitar,

The one I overhauled was very old , cheaply made , I got it fixed but it`s not much . I just use it as a wall hanger.

That is usuallt my luck picking up a bargain old guitar . You would be much better off to go to your local music store, or Elderly catalog, Musicians Friend catalog and buying one new , at least you can start playing immediatley not having to rebuild it.

Just my opinion, been there done that too many times. Cost me way more inthe long run

Steve Pierce
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From: San Rafael, California, USA

posted 30 December 2002 09:05 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thank you for all the replies!

I think I'll experiment with lighter strings first.

Since the guitar didn't set me back too much, I am curious about re-setting the neck, or bridge. The tailpiece sounds like a good idea too.

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Steve Pierce

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