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Alan Kirk
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From: Santa Barbara, CA, USA

posted 20 January 2003 07:38 AM     profile   send email     edit
In a few months I hope to have about $1,500 to spend on a new (or used) squareneck resophonic guitar. (I'm using a Regal RD45 right now.) Or would I have to spend $3,000-$5,000 to get something that approaches the sound of Josh Graves, Jerry Douglas or Mike Auldridge?

I'm looking for advice on my next purchase. Any opinions?

Also, which store in the U.S. do you think has the most resos on display where a person could sit down and play them? Using the web to purchase instruments has worked out pretty good for me, so far, but I'd like to have a more personal experience (not that I can afford to fly from CA to Texas just to sit down and play resos--I'm having a fantasy here).

Thanks.

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[This message was edited by Alan Kirk on 20 January 2003 at 07:40 AM.]

Mark van Allen
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From: loganville, Ga. USA

posted 20 January 2003 10:13 AM     profile   send email     edit
Hi, Alan, you might have trouble finding a nice Beard or similar for that price, but then again- lurk around the want ads on Jerry D's site, Carter and Mike Auldridge often have good used resos posted. You might want to talk to Ted Smith at Melobar, the Melobros are really great sounding instruments, the one I have compares favorably with some pretty high end wood bodies, and they're in your price range... good luck.
Brad Bechtel
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From: San Francisco, CA

posted 20 January 2003 10:37 AM     profile   send email     edit
The best selection of resonator guitars I've found on the West Coast is at Gryphon Stringed Instruments in Palo Alto, CA. They currently have Dobro®, Johnson, National and Regal resophonics and a whole bunch of lap steels too!

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Howard Parker
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From: Clarksburg,MD USA

posted 20 January 2003 11:33 AM     profile   send email     edit
Let's see. The last _USED_ Scheerhorn I saw on Ebay went for $5,200. Yep, someone just couldn't wait 2 years to get one.

The Beard laminates start at $1,800 or so (well worth it imho) and I think Ted Smith has quit making guitars(?).

Of the different guitars I've been lucky enought to play I'm thinking that the Deneve maples are outright bargains. Hand crafted and in your price range I believe.

Problem is, like most low volume producers, Dick sells direct only. You can find his contact info at http://www.resoguit.com/luthier2.htm along with a bunch of his competitors.

Good luck in your search.

Howard

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Bob Hoffnar
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From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 20 January 2003 01:19 PM     profile   send email     edit
I play a Guernsey on Mike Auldriges recommendation and it didn't cost me much more than $1,500 when I bought it new.

Bob

D Schubert
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From: Columbia, MO, USA

posted 20 January 2003 04:28 PM     profile   send email     edit
Keep checking the used intrument stocks at Gruhn Guitars at www.gruhn.com. You will occasionally see old and even pre-war wood-body Dobros and Regals in your price range. I've had nothing but good luck with Gruhn's and have bought several vintage acoustic instruments from them without any hassle. Opinions vary, but I'm much more excited about the old Dobros than any new resonator guitars...
DroopyPawn
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From: Fox, OK, USA

posted 20 January 2003 05:07 PM     profile   send email     edit
I have a friend here in Oklahoma who builds dobros. He's quite a pro and produces the best dobros I've seen. I think he sells them for around $2000. I can get more info if you like. Send me an email. I could also just give you his phone number and you can deal directly.

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Stephen Gambrell
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From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA

posted 20 January 2003 05:40 PM     profile   send email     edit
Atta Boy, Bob. Ivan's tops, and he's not out to kill anybody, either. But his waiting list is about ayear and a half, though.
R. L. Jones
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From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA

posted 20 January 2003 07:10 PM     profile   send email     edit
Click on ,, benoitguitars.com ,, look at his website. All these guitars are top of the line, all solid exotic tone woods .
he builds these guitars one at the time, using nothing but the best ,cones ,tuners , woods ,finished in a hand rubbed mirror finish
He uses no middleman ,you get it at factory price

R. L.

Kenny Davis
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From: Great State of Oklahoma

posted 20 January 2003 08:52 PM     profile   send email     edit
Ditto on Benoit!

Gary: Is that Schoonover? I've seen his guitars, and they look pretty nice.

mikey
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From: Hawaii, Big Island

posted 21 January 2003 08:07 AM     profile   send email     edit
I just got a Tut Taylor (Crafters of Tennessee) squareneck, brand new for well under $1500...nicest spider bridge reso I ever played...TTT mahogany model...can't see how a guitar could be $1500 better sounding...reso's are relatively simple instuments..so if it's sound you are after (and a quality instrument) for under 1500 I'd recommend those...anything else I would imagine you are paying for either the name, the bells and whistles (inlay,binding,exotic wood/s, etc.) or it's handmade so you are paying for the builders time...soundwise my ears can't tell the difference in price...
Aloha,
Mike
Michael T. Hermsmeyer
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From: Branson, Mo 65616 USA

posted 21 January 2003 12:51 PM     profile   send email     edit
Benoit, Sheerhorn and Guernsey are the best. Beard is building some great instruments. I think all of those might be pushing your price range, though.

You should be able to find some great older Dobros easily within your price range, but if you want something new, then watch for the Crafters Tut Taylor models that appear routinely on ebay for under $1000.00 I have heard that they are seconds, but I think that just means there might be a small finish flaw. I have played a Tut and was very impressed.

I have spoken with Ted Smith at Melobar and he is still contemplating the shutdown. I tried to discourage him, but in essence, it is his decision. He will be around to honor warranties and stand behind his products. You might give him a call or email him at melobar.com. I am sure he doesn't check the forum anymore.

If you want a "Dobro" Dobro, I could be swayed to let my F-60 go for a fair price. Email me if interested.

Thanks, God Bless,
Michael T.

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Bob Stone
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From: Gainesville, FL, USA

posted 21 January 2003 01:22 PM     profile   send email     edit
Alan,

The DeNeve maple is a good sounding reso for well under $1,500. They are made from solid wood and have a rich, clean tone. The craftsmanship is not quite as fine as some, but the tone is there. It's the least expensive solid wood reso I know of. And he'll make a 7 or 8 string for little or no additional cost.

The Guernsey (laminated) is also in that price range and it's hard to argue with Mike Auldridge's stong endorsement of those instruments as well as his fine recordings. Many people think a laminated reso is as good or better than a solid wood instrument. It is a matter open for considerable debate.

Happy hunting. Let us know which reso you buy.

Bob

[This message was edited by Bob Stone on 21 January 2003 at 01:24 PM.]

Alan Kirk
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From: Santa Barbara, CA, USA

posted 21 January 2003 04:52 PM     profile   send email     edit
Thanks for all the good advice, guys.

I'm definitely more interested in a guitar that sounds good than in a guitar that looks good. I want the thing to sing with that special sweetness that I'm not finding in my Regal.

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Stephen Gambrell
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From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA

posted 21 January 2003 06:03 PM     profile   send email     edit
I know a lot of guys have, and enjoy the Regals(and other imports), but they just don't cut it, IMHO. The Crafters are great instruments, stay away from Dobro brand, and don't worry about body woods. Ivan Guernsey and I were discussing it, and he said, in so many words,"Why waste all that rosewood and spruce on a speaker box?"
Dana Duplan
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From: Ramona, CA

posted 21 January 2003 06:08 PM     profile   send email     edit
I'd also check out the National Model D Spider bridge guitar. They are in that price range and the one's I've played sounded pretty darn good. They sound different from many of the other Dobro types I've played, but in my opinion that's not necessarily a bad thing!
DD
Alan Kirk
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From: Santa Barbara, CA, USA

posted 21 January 2003 10:59 PM     profile   send email     edit
Doesthe National Model D come in squareneck?

(I grew up a few miles north of San Luis Obispo, where National is now--but I heard they're getting ready to move their manufacturing to Mexico.)

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Dana Duplan
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From: Ramona, CA

posted 22 January 2003 05:47 AM     profile   send email     edit
Alan:
The Model D initally came out as a square neck--now you can also get it with a round neck. BTW, they will make most of their instruments with a square neck without an upcharge. On a recent visit to the factory I played a 27" scale baritone Polychrome Tricone. What fun! I'm surprised to hear about the Mexico thing. I spent 1/2 the day with Don Young at the factory, and talked to other folks there, and would never have guessed. Is this just a rumor or is there any evidence?
DD
Alan Kirk
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From: Santa Barbara, CA, USA

posted 22 January 2003 07:54 AM     profile   send email     edit
Dana,

About the Mexico thing:

A friend of mine who used to work for Ernie Ball in SLO told me this a couple months ago when I was talking to him about Nationals. He's lived in SLO his whole life and knows a lot of people there, so I assumed he knew what he was talking about. I guess it's possible that it might be a rumor, though.

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Michael T. Hermsmeyer
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From: Branson, Mo 65616 USA

posted 22 January 2003 06:42 PM     profile   send email     edit
Alan, check your mail.
Alvin Blaine
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From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 23 January 2003 12:18 AM     profile   send email     edit
I'm in Nashville this week, and I just went into a store today that had five different Tut Taylor guitars. All but one of them were under $1500. and were all very nice, but the one that was $1695. was incredible. I've played on a Rudy Q. Jones(Grhun had a nice old RQ Jones in the store today), a Scheerhorn, and many others and would put this Tut Taylor up aginst any of them.

If you Oklahoma guys are Talking about Schoonover Resophonic Guitar, they are great. I played one this past summer, and hopefully I'll have one next May. If anyone wants info on them let me know. Its my cousin that makes them.

[This message was edited by Alvin Blaine on 23 January 2003 at 12:22 AM.]

Danny Naccarato
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From: Ft. Worth, Texas US

posted 23 January 2003 07:56 AM     profile   send email     edit
I'm in the central coast area this week and had no idea they were near here. What town, phone ???

Thanks,
Danny

Brad Bechtel
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From: San Francisco, CA

posted 23 January 2003 09:06 AM     profile   send email     edit
From their web site:
National Reso-Phonic Guitars, Inc.
871 Via Esteban #C
San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
Tel: (805) 546-8442
Fax: (805) 546-8430
Email: natres@nationalguitars.com

[This message was edited by Brad Bechtel on 23 January 2003 at 09:08 AM.]

Alan Kirk
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From: Santa Barbara, CA, USA

posted 23 January 2003 09:08 AM     profile   send email     edit
The Mexico rumor I started is false. See this message:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/003575.html

Sorry.

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mikey
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From: Hawaii, Big Island

posted 25 January 2003 10:09 AM     profile   send email     edit
Oddly enough I had the same conversation that Stephen Gambrell had w/ Ivan
w/ John Dopyera in the 70's at OMI ( the old Dobro Factory in CA) and he said the same thing...The wood doesn't matter..plywood is fine, you DON't want any vibrations to take away from the bridge/cone, you end up losing volume...the stiffer the better...
Mike
Stephen Gambrell
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From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA

posted 25 January 2003 12:59 PM     profile   send email     edit
Yeah, Mikey, it stands to reason, when you think about it. I've heard some guitars with spruce tops, that sounded mushy, and I'm guessing it's because that spruce actually impeded vibration of the cone. PLYWOOD RULES!!(WHEW! For a minute there, I thought I was Bill Hankey!)
Mark van Allen
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From: loganville, Ga. USA

posted 25 January 2003 09:17 PM     profile   send email     edit
I just noticed Elderly has a black Melobro GB-1 in their new flyer for $900...

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