What would you recommend as the top one or two CDs featuring Joaquin Murphy?

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[This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 05 April 2003 at 10:11 AM.]

Now, back to my Stringmaster.

Best,

If I get to feeling generous later, I may put'em up on my website... but I don't think my leg's been humped quite enough yet!

There's also two different recordings of both Honeysuckle and Sweet GA Brown by the Plainsmen as well, which will be coming at y'all at a later point in time.

Ya, I know... I'm a terrible tease, ain't I?

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There's "ANYTIME" by (possibly, the Plainsmen) with someone I"ve always believed to be JMurphy. It is one of the finest examples of single string and chord work intermeshed and it is simply indescribeable.

Anytime was recorded by Foy Willing and The Riders of the Purple Sage on Capitol records
back in the early 50's.

What you hear is Freddy Tavares on steel guitar doing those hot single string and tasty licks. Sounds a bit like JM. But it is
Freddy..I know he gave me a copy of the 78 which I still have. You see...it pays to get
older

Edited to add..
Check out Eddie Dean's recording of "On The Banks Of The Sunny San Juan" recorded back in the 1940's Mercury records,backed with "Lets Go Sparkin" JM shines on both tunes..

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 05 April 2003 at 04:48 PM.]

I heard you were too cheap to buy the dog food and he starved to death

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[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 06 April 2003 at 01:50 AM.]

One nice note, however. Dayna Wills was sitting in with the Cornell Hurd Band singing "Sugar Moon," and I played Murph's solo to "Troubled Over You" for my ride. I received a round of applause for the solo and the next day I called Joaquin and told him his solo... played by me... got an ovation. He was silent for a moment, then simply said "wow."

It feels good to make your hero happy, even for a moment.

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Im no hero,but I like your playing nevertheless.

Thank you for your CD I think its real fine.
Just like you.

There are many new members who may not be
familiar with the great steel players of a
time gone by.

Its easy to learn and at the same time hear
some GREAT Western Swing music by one of the
most knowlegeable people I know.

Mike Gross. Mike is not a steel player,nor is
he a musician, but his passion for steel guitar and the people who play them are his
love.

Mike knows more about Western Swing than anyone I have ever met in my lifetime,and thats saying something,Im not as young as many of you think,and maybe younger than some
of you think,,nevertheless,,Its easy to hear
things and dates and personnel on various recordings,and Mike is the person to tell you.

This is not a "paid political Announcement"
but just to pay homage to a fine human being
who basically is one of us.

Mike puts the Steel Guitar front and Center every Friday night from 9pm Eastern time until midnight..

He is a god send to our instrument and has been the backbone of Western Swing Music and has recieved awards for his love of Western Swing and the steel guitar community..

I know you or Ya'll will really enjoy Mike and his easy going down to earth style as well as the great music he plays each week.

He does it as a labor of love, and thats what
makes Mike and his show so great.

Boggs,Vance Terry, Joaquin,Leon,,Tom Morrell
you name it,he'll do it for you every Friday
night..who knows you may even hear my recordings as well Herb Steiner is often
featured on Mike's show as well as Jim Cohen.

Do it and you will enjoy what you hear and then you will have the answers as to who played what, and when.
www.swinginwest.com

Do It.

Spade Cooley oops I think I mis-spelled
personnel or did I?? well; you know what I mean. Listen in,,you will be happy you did.

edited,,I did mis-spell and I corrected it.
I'm no dummy. Check out www.swinginwest.com and that aint no mis-spell either.

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 07 April 2003 at 05:30 PM.]

I have a compilation CD with "Oklahoma Stomp," on it and it's just a killer track, almost drove through the village castle's wall when it came on in the car.
It's got Roy Roger's "The Kid With The Rip In His Pants" too.

I'm from Oklahoma too.Oh I'm sorry Paul,,yes
Freddy Tavares did all of those Disney tracks. Paul...are you from Oklahoma??

Is anyone out there?? I think so,,I can hear heavy breathing.

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 07 April 2003 at 05:39 PM.]

There were two of the best Noel & JM and Les
Anderson "Carrottop was a great steel player with Cooley as well.

Gene check out Mike's show this Friday night
you'll like it. www.swinginwest.com tell Mike
I sent ya regards home for me.. say Hi to Mee Too.

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 07 April 2003 at 08:07 PM.]

The Caravan cut a lot of broadcast transcriptions of tunes associated with Spade, since the arrangements were written by Pedro DePaul, who took them into the Caravan with him.

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There is however a"Swingin The Devils Dream"
with Noel on steel guitar.

Noel was on the RCA version as well.

I dont recall Joaquin being on any recording
of Devils dream with the Cooley orchestra.

I stayed up half the night looking and listening to old original Cooley recordings.
there was no steel as Herb suggested,other than Noel Boggs.

Cooley did some Decca recordings way back,perhaps that has Joaquin on steel,I dont
really know. I'm not as old as Herb Steiner and not as smart What difference does it make,,Joaquin was GREAT on everything he ever recorded. edited to listen again,,nope
no steel.I listened over and over.No Steel guitar.If anyone has it,would you send me a tape and I will pay for your time and postage
I would like to have it for my collection.
Plus the cost of the cassette.

Edited..I took the liberty of removing my PO BOX address from this thread.

I was called by the postmaster here in town who informed me that a line of people were
at the Post Office banging on my box.

It dont pay to be popular..By box meaning PO
Box that is to clarify my comment.

Thanks again Herbster.

Herb Steiner kept me up all night

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 10 April 2003 at 06:17 PM.]

The first cut is "Devil's Dream" by Cal Shrum, with Spade as the featured soloist. There's also an acoustic guitar solo, probably by Gene Haas. This is on a CD entitled "Spade Cooley 1941-1947" on Country Routes.

Next is a live radio broadcast from the Riverside Rancho of "Swingin' the DD" with Joaquin and George Bamby on accordion, when Pedro was in the army. This is on a Country Routes CD entitled "Spade Cooley and His Western Dance Gang Radio Broadcasts 1945."

Then I have a radio transcription of "Swingin'" of Spade and the Western Dance Gang, with Joaquin on steel definitely, from a CD entitled "Shame on You" on the Bloodshot label.

Then there's the Columbia cut available on the "Spadella" CD that has Noel definitely on steel, so that was cut post-1946 after Joaquin had gone to the Plainsmen and the rest of the band split with Tex.

I also have a Standard Radio Transcription by the Western Caravan of "Swingin' DD" with Joaquin, so this was probably 1947 or later.

Then there's yet another version I have, either on RCA or a Standard Radio Transcription, of Spade from either the very late 40's or early 1950's with his big band and again, Noel Boggs playing a different solo than he did on the Columbia recording. This is on an LP album entitled "The Best of Spade Cooley's Transcribed Radio Shows" on the NINA label

But interestingly enough, I don't have a recording of "Swingin' DD" that doesn't have steel, except the original one with Cal Shrum's Rhythm Rangers.

HOWEVER, I just bought a Club of Spade LP on eBay that might have the cut without any steel that Gene mentioned. I will keep ya'll posted.

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Only goes to show you that the older you get
doesn't make one smarter.I did lose sleep though...but I really thought?? Oh Well.

Thank you Herb.You certainly are a Cooley fan

Thanks my man.

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You too Donald,,tune in to swingin west.

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I wish I could, but this is from 3am till 6 am.... at least where I is!

"Carver", I'm David...Not Mr. David. It's commonly confused for some reason been like that all my life. Even had a 8th grade teacher rewrite my name in his lesson plan, thinking for 3 months, I was Donny Ben David. No matter what i said, LOL!. What a nitwit.

I finally walked out and he chased me to the headmaster's office where he said "Donny Ben David get back in my classrooom right now." The HM knew my real name... and promptly bumped me to a higher level english class. And then had the teacher apologise to me in front of the old class.

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Is anyone out there?? I think so,,I can hear heavy breathing.

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No, Jody that's just us geezers a wheezin'!

I would love to have a cassette of some classic W.swing stuff, there is little avalable here. I will gladly pay for a cool compliation. With a speacial emphasis on the best steel lines from the era.

With some of you cat's actually knowing the original players... or being them,
I would be foolish not to plumb this resource. I am sure Crowbear would love to have a copy too, which I will do for him, if someone sends me something.

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Someone above asked about the accordian player on the Cooley albums? I couldn't find any credits but it sounds like Eddie Carver, the accordianist and musical arranger who was on many albums of that era, i.e., Jimmy Wakely, Noel Boggs, etc. www.genejones.com

[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 15 April 2003 at 03:52 PM.]

Bamby left Cooley upon Pedro's return from the army and joined the Plainsmen. While Joaquin was in and out of the group, Bamby was a principal of the Plainsmen along with Andy Parker, Charlie Morgan, and Hank Caldwell. Also in the Plainsmen was the incredible violinist Harry Sims (Simowitz), who played in the Chicago Symphony but came to LA to play jazz and joined the western group.

I don't know much more about what George Bamby did after the Plainsmen, except that he also worked with Foy Willing and the Riders of the Purple Sage, as well as the Sons of the Pioneers. He passed away in LA in the early 1990's. Bamby had a similar style to Pedro's, but IMHO played with a greater sense of humor and craziness. He's the amazing accordionist on the Plainsmen's classics "Sweet GA Brown" and "Honeysuckle Rose."

In the early 1950's, Milton DeLugg did some work with Spade's orchestra. Other accordionists who probably worked with Spade were Bud Sievert, Eddie Carver, and Billy Liebert.

I would say that Jason Odd probably has more information than I do about the early-to-mid 50's accordionistas in LA.

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[This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 15 April 2003 at 07:20 PM.]

1. Joaquin was astounding.
2. The accordion playing was surpsrisingly swinging

Larry & Paul were great musicians. Roll over Lawrence Welk!

[This message was edited by Andy Volk on 16 April 2003 at 03:53 AM.]