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CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 11 June 2003 12:57 PM     profile   send email     edit
Considering that Ricks and Fenders seem to be the favourites amongst many of you here
i would like to hear some chimes on Gibson lap steels.
i would like to get an EH150 (6 or 7)
to replace my lil ol BR6.
Do any of you have an EH 150 and what do you think of them ?
Thanx

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Steel what?


Ulf Edlund
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From: Umeå, Sweden

posted 11 June 2003 02:19 PM     profile   send email     edit
Hi CB.
I don't have a EH-150 but a EH-100, first model 1936 and i love it. Sounds fantastic.
The only problem would be the pickup is very good at picking up noice. Once on a recording session i had to sit and play in the office because every time i layed it flat on my knees there was more hum than music coming out of it. They later found out there was a mega big cable under the studio building supplying two nearby buildings with electricity. They later had to move it.
But i don't know if the EH-150 is that sensitive.
You might consider getting a EH-100 and working extra locating underground powerlines!

Uffe

(som ninor speling erors ficsed!)

[This message was edited by Ulf Edlund on 11 June 2003 at 02:25 PM.]

Harry Dietrich
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From: Robesonia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 11 June 2003 07:50 PM     profile   send email     edit
Hi Crowbear

I've had one for years. I fell in love with the tone back in the late 40's, and had the chance to purchase one about 15 years ago. Mine was made in 1938, and has all of the original equipment yet.....even down to the key for the case, and the small harmonica they used to use for tuning. I also have the original stand that was made for them. I still play it every day, and it was my main guitar when I played in my last band. All I can say is......they are great!

If you want to see pictures....E-Mail me.

Harry

Iain
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From: Edinburgh, Scotland

posted 12 June 2003 02:49 AM     profile   send email     edit
I have a '38 10-string one. Sounds great! Has a lovely, mellow, huge Charlie Christian p/up. Good looking wood, too.
Ian McLatchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

posted 12 June 2003 03:20 AM     profile   send email     edit
CrowBear: I have a '38 7-string EH-150 and absolutely love it. The Christian pickup and the semi-hollow maple body produce a bright upper-midrange tone that really sets these instruments apart from Rickenbackers or Fenders, or certainly from the post-war Gibsons. I'd echo what Ulf says, though. The giant magnets in the EHs mean the pickups are fairly noisy at the best of times, and their sensitivity to external power sources means you sometimes have to be pretty fussy about where you sit, as Ulf's story suggests. Great guitars, though.

You sure you want to replace that BR6 to finance your purchase? I sold a BR4 a number of years ago, and have regretted doing so ever since. Those post-war Gibsons have an appeal of their own.

Rick Aiello
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From: Berryville, VA USA

posted 12 June 2003 05:20 AM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
The giant magnets in the EHs

Jason Lollar is re-introducing "authentic" Charlie Christian pickups . I make the big bar magnets for the EH steels and smaller bar magnets for the ES spanish guitars.

If you have never seen them:

Charlie Christian Bar Magnets

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www.horseshoemagnets.com

Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 12 June 2003 05:21 AM     profile   send email     edit
I'd echo what everyone said. EH-150's are every bit as great in their own way as Fenders and Ricks. I find the string spacing to be perfect and the size and shape are very attractive. Mine is really beat up, not to mention it has a replaced pickup, tuners & knobs but it's still the guitar I most often reach for.
CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 12 June 2003 05:22 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thank you guys for the response
my lil ol' BR6 is what got me started 30 years ago and i've always loved the sound it puts out. (50$ in a pawn shop)
i've been considering an EH 150 and i'm about to get one.
i would prefer a 7 or 8 stringer but so far i've only found a 6.
i'm sure that CC pu is Dyno-mite
i know that 8 strings is where it's at but that will be another purchase. Probably a Fender D8.
i will eventually sell the BR6 and kick myself for having done so. if the EH150 cuts it, i'll prefer to see someone happy and carrying the Steel quest further w: the BR6
Thanx again for the input guys

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Michael Devito
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From: Montclair, NJ, USA

posted 12 June 2003 07:29 AM     profile   send email     edit
Crowbear:

I've got a late 30s EH-185 6-string with the Charlie Christian pickup. It's a bit different than the EH-150 I think, as it uses a one-piece metal body to which the wood parts are attached. So the sustain is probably greater.

This is the best guitar -- of any kind -- I've ever owned. Perfect string spacing. Very big sound, totally different than Fenders or Ricks. It's warm but not at all muddy, with big round treble notes and punchy bass sound at volume. I took it down to the blues jam a few weeks ago. Tuned to D, through an old Deluxe Reverb. Sounded like an organ onstage. Staked out the midrange for rhythm, with solo runs ringing out on top. I'm no great shakes, but that tone was really something.

Give it a try ...

CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 12 June 2003 10:20 AM     profile   send email     edit
thanx for the post and the info Micheal
i knew a bit about the EH185 but you have added to what i was missing.
Doug Beaumier was selling one not long ago here on the Forum and Ebay.
i found the EH185 to be a very nice lookin' axe
but then i've always been a Gibson (lap steel)freak !
Andy:

[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 12 June 2003 at 10:21 AM.]

mikey
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From: Hawaii, Big Island

posted 12 June 2003 09:22 PM     profile   send email     edit
I had a 7 string EH-150...one of the finest lapsteels I ever had...wish I never sold it, but, I needed a console w/legs (my back can't handle "On lap" anymore, also if you are going w/ a lap guitar, a rick bakelite has THE tone...and I didn't need 2 lapsteels...so out went the Gibson, Fine guitar, but bakelite was my preference (at the time) and now I just use Ricky Davis' old triple stringmaster.(I need 3 necks and legs)
Aloha,
Mike
Denny Turner
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From: Northshore Oahu, Hawaii USA

posted 12 June 2003 11:56 PM     profile   send email     edit
CB,

I've had one of the EH$100-$150 model Gibsons for 30 years, ... can't remember the exact model ... gold plastic hand-rest pickup-cover and open soapbar pickup ... early '50's. I always liked it's very warm and full tone; And it raised cane as a boogie woogie slide for 20 years before I learned to play Steel on it. I took lessons from JB for a year at Harry's. When I sat down for my first lesson with that Gibson, Jerry took it to tune it up. After tuning it up and playing up and down the neck for about a minute, ...he turned his head and looked up at me and said "this guitar has a wonderful warm tone; You'd better keep this one." (as if I would somehow ever be able to part with it after he played on it once a week for a year!). He made similar remarks about the guitar several times during that year. Like others said here, I find the string spacing perfect, as well as the string-deck height. I have found though, that the strings have to either be kept very clean and covered with a very lightly oiled rag to keep them that way (which is the way I keep it in it's case) ... or the strings changed rather often, ... because as the strings get even mildly neglected, the guitar translates that to a noticebale muddiness to it's lower mid range tones along with a slight but noticeable loss of attack sustain. I can only account that to knowing the marvelous tone the guitar has with brand new strings wiped down with the "oily" rag .... and hearing that loss. Other people might pick it up and never notice. Maybe someone else has noticed this "muddiness" effect on theirs and might provide some comment / opinions. I've noticed it more on this Gibson than on many other steels I've had.

Aloha,
DT~

[This message was edited by Denny Turner on 13 June 2003 at 12:00 AM.]

Harry Dietrich
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From: Robesonia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 13 June 2003 05:24 AM     profile   send email     edit
Denny

I do the same as you....with the oily rag. It pays to keep the dirt and the moisture from your hands off your strings.

Harry

Erv Niehaus
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From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 13 June 2003 07:00 AM     profile   send email     edit
I always wipe my strings down with "Fret Fast". It comes in a little can with an applicator and wipe down cloth. It cleans and lubricates the strings. I really wouldn't really want to use an "oily rag".
Erv
CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 13 June 2003 07:42 AM     profile   send email     edit
Erv, i thought it was Sardine oil you used ?
Could i ask those of you that have the 7 or 8 string model the tunings you use.
Now fer the good news, i've got an EH150 comin over
Harry Dietrich
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From: Robesonia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 13 June 2003 12:29 PM     profile   send email     edit
Erv

My rag is not dripping with oil. I take an old hankerchief, and tear, or cut it in half, and fold it over one time. Then I squirt oil on it and squeeze it into the rag, making sure that the whole rag is "treated" with oil. When I'm finished playing I wipe the strings with it, then it goes in the case, laying on the strings of the guitar. One rag lasts forever, and I do this with all my stringed instruments, except my fiddle.

Harry

Gerald Ross
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From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

posted 13 June 2003 01:28 PM     profile   send email     edit
I have a 1936-37 EH-150. A few months back the pickup died. Jason Lollar rewound and reworked it. He did a fantastic job. The tone is fat and round. Different from the Bakelite Ricks that I currently prefer, but excellent nonetheless.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 15 June 2003 03:59 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thanx for the mail and the pics Harry
i answered you but it bounced back
Rick A: thanx for the link to your site and Jason Lollar
Anybody else got a EH150 6/7/8/10 stringed models ?
Thanx again to those of you who replied

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Erv Niehaus
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From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 15 June 2003 06:59 AM     profile   send email     edit
CrowBear,
I just use sardine oil to lube up my pedal steels! Not to oil up the strings! I have a 7 string EH150. I just basically got it to look at it. The way it's set up, however, is that the bottom string is not the lowest tone. I can tell by the string slot that it would be used for a 6th or 7th note. I have a "slug" of guitars. on my 8 string dobro, I like to tune it to an A6th tuning. But then your mileage may vary.
Uff-Da!
P.S. There has been considerable discussion on the forum about oiling the rollers on a pedal steel. They always say: "be careful and don't get any oil on the strings as it will deaden the strings".

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