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Ron Victoria
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From: Metuchen, New Jersey, USA

posted 11 November 2003 04:07 PM     profile   send email     edit
I was curious what the most valuable used steel guitar is out there?
Jeff Strouse
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From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA

posted 11 November 2003 04:56 PM     profile   send email     edit
Probably a Bigsby?

Or maybe the original pre-war Rickenbachers (frypan and bakelite)?

Chuck Fisher
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From: Santa Cruz, California, USA

posted 11 November 2003 05:17 PM     profile   send email     edit
the 35 all-metal gibson eh-150 is pretty costy also.

cf

chas smith
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From: Encino, CA, USA

posted 11 November 2003 05:28 PM     profile     edit
Bigsby
Bob Knight
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From: Bowling Green KY

posted 11 November 2003 05:29 PM     profile   send email     edit
The late 30s Kalamazoos bring a pretty penny also!
Ron Victoria
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From: Metuchen, New Jersey, USA

posted 11 November 2003 05:42 PM     profile   send email     edit
What price range are some of these?
PAUL WARNIK
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From: OAK LAWN,IL,USA

posted 11 November 2003 08:54 PM     profile   send email     edit
Vintage Bigsbys are overall head above the rest-Almost everyone who was anyone of a steel player during the formative years of western swing and country honky tonk-played Bigsby-The list is impressive-they are surely obsolete mechanically-and the tone is not condusive to modern amplification-But they are the cornerstone from which all other guitars of the "modern" (post WWII) era were derived-Where did Sho-Bud get the look of their maple cabinets from? And Buddy himself said that his decision to use metal necks on the Emmons was directly influenced from his Bigsby

[This message was edited by PAUL WARNIK on 11 November 2003 at 08:58 PM.]

Jussi Huhtakangas
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From: Helsinki, Finland

posted 11 November 2003 11:40 PM     profile   send email     edit
Ron, within the past couple of years we've seen Bigsbys go for anything between $5000-10 000. Now that there finally is a "Bigsby-website" and if and when the Bigsby book finally will be released, we will probably see nothing but an increase in value of these guitars.
Chris Scruggs
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From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA

posted 12 November 2003 01:58 AM     profile   send email     edit
They're worth more refinished.
Just kidding.
Chuck Fisher
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From: Santa Cruz, California, USA

posted 12 November 2003 10:05 AM     profile   send email     edit
the old aluminum Gibson eh-150 brings 3-5k $

some of the Rickenbacher bakelite guitars get over $1500.

Rick Collins
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From: Claremont , CA USA

posted 12 November 2003 02:29 PM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
They're worth more refinished.

They would be to me.
...not kidding.

Rick

Chris Scruggs
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From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA

posted 12 November 2003 02:44 PM     profile   send email     edit
Rick, I have a 1955 Fender Stringmaster D8 someone refinished a very hidious shade of brown.

Seeing as these guitars are going for around $1,200.00 with original finishes, I will offer it to you (upgrade included) for the fair sum of $1,500.00.

And it even has a brush painted case!

Rick Collins
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From: Claremont , CA USA

posted 12 November 2003 09:27 PM     profile   send email     edit
If it were refinished to my taste Chris, I'd consider it. But, "hideous shade of brown"? I have my limits.

Now, Johnny Sibert's old triple Stringmaster refinished to Fender blonde? Yes.

BTW I have a blonde 26" scale triple Stringmaster that is in about a B+ condition. Chrome is near perfect and only a few dings; but you can bet that I will one day refinish it.

Rick

Chris Scruggs
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From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA

posted 12 November 2003 10:19 PM     profile   send email     edit
Hey Rick,

If you're feeling adventurous, I think Kayton Roberts might still have a half can of red paint left!

But in my humble opinion, and with tons of respect for anyone who may differ,it is always better to "age gracefully" than to get a face lift.

The only time I see it fit to refinish a guitar is when it has previously been refinished poorly, like my s**t brown Stringmaster( it might be going Olympic White soon, I can't do it transparent blond, because the brown finish stained the wood to where it can never be butterscotsh again .)

I think it is a part of the character of a vintage instrument, it's personality, who it is and where it's been.

The people who own our guitars in 100 years will appreciate that. They will get to know the guitars for who they are, all the way back to the "3/52" penciled under the tuner tray.

I really think there is something sentimental about seeing a '52 Telecaster with the blond worn just right from where the players right arm has rubbed against it for 51 years, or the way old tweed fringes on the corners of a well worn Pro Amp.

It just seems to me like when the sandpaper peels of that script "Fender" logo from the front of the guitar, it's erased Leo's hard earned signiture.

Not that I'm a fan of the new pre worn
"relic" guitars being made today, I just think that nature should take it's course.

Just my two cents worth...

Chris Scruggs

P.S.

Yes Rick, I agree. While I prefer Dual Pro's and Customs in Walnut, I think Stringmasters really do look great in Blond. But if you refinned Sibert's to Blond, you wouldn't be able to read his name on the front in white anymore!

I have a great transcription recording of him playing the Leon McAuliffe instrumental "Blue Guitar Stomp" with Carl and the Tunesmiths in 1956. If I can figure out how to burn a copy, I'll make you one
(But I have to make a copy for him first).

And hey, how about Carl Smith getting in the Hall of Fame finally! I'd like to think Johnny Sibert's unique sound helped.

I'm done ranting now.

No, really.

Rick Collins
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From: Claremont , CA USA

posted 13 November 2003 10:15 AM     profile   send email     edit
Chris thanks, I'd really like to have that CD. If you get it, e-mail me and we'll work out a deal.

Have you heard "Snowdeer" by the Tunesmiths? Johnny on steel with lead guitar and electric mandolin do a three part harmony,___great sound. I need a copy of that tune also; but wouldn't know where to look.

Since your dual Stringmaster has had a facelift gone bad; I think high-gloss black really suits that guitar. I've seen one; and it had the Fender decal in gold of course. You can get the decal from Bobbe.

Rick

Larry Phleger
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From: DuBois, PA

posted 13 November 2003 11:56 AM     profile   send email     edit
Me too. By the way, what is johnny doing these days?
Chris Scruggs
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From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA

posted 14 November 2003 10:14 AM     profile   send email     edit
Rick, yes I have heard "Snowdeer", it is on the Carl Smith box set that Bear Family Records put out. There is some great obscure stuff on that collection!

The reason I was thinking Olympic white was because I saw the guitar before the previous owner refinished it, and it was a very nice 1955 blond(in '55 the blond finish is alot creamier).

But who knows, I might end up doing it Dakota red or Sonic blue .

Larry,

As to Mr. Sibert, he has recently retired from the Tennessean newspaper where he worked as a security gaurd. He worked there from 1978 until last year. He hasn't played steel guitar since 1976, but says he doesn't miss it at all. He said the music business made it to where it didn't seem fun anymore, so he figured why play music if you're not having fun.

He seems to be happy in his retirement, and that is good. I wish him the best of luck.

Chris

Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 14 November 2003 10:19 AM     profile   send email     edit
I bought a double-8 Stringmaster last Spring that's been refinished in a sort of Sonic Blue. The color doesn't do much for me so I'll probably refinish it in blond or gloss black somewhere along the line or trade it for something else.
Denny Turner
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From: Northshore Oahu, Hawaii USA

posted 23 November 2003 02:39 AM     profile   send email     edit
Well, if someone wanted to play the most expensive lap steel on the planet, they could buy them a mint '59 Les Paul flametop for around $200,000, tune it up open G blues, and play it on their lap! ....Or they could look around and find one that has been refinished with electronic upgrades and pick it up for a few thousand buck$ !

Aloha,
DT~

Jody Carver
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From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever

posted 23 November 2003 08:16 PM     profile     edit
I would choose a Stringmaster over a Bigsby.
The Bigsby is a great guitar and well built as well as beautiful..but for me the Stringmaster has more bite and tonal advantages than the Bigsby. That Fender sound is unmistakeable.

I had both and preffered the Fender Stringmaster. Having both would be a treat.

edited for spelling.

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 23 November 2003 at 08:17 PM.]

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