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Topic: Playing lap steel when blind
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Pete Knapton Member From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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posted 13 December 2004 03:48 AM
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A country vocalist/guitarist I know wants to learn lap steel. He is totally blind. We thought maybe some strategicaly placed bumps along the neck would help locate the fret positions. Has anyone had any experiences with learning & playing lap steel when blind? Thanks, Pete |
Roy Ayres Member From: Starke, Florida, USA
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posted 13 December 2004 04:10 AM
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Pete,I have run across several blind steelers in my lifetime. I have often thought about the same question, and I believe some kind of "touch" system of marking frets would be of help to a beginning steel player. However, I know it is possible for a sighted person to learn to play without looking at the keyboard because Joe Wright does it, and I have been learning somewhat how to do it because of the motivation Joe has provided. Joe said the way to do it can be explained with three words: "Practice, practice, practice." To me, the real challenge would be to play like a young man I knew years ago in Louisville, Kentucky; he was born with no arms and did a great job playing a non-pedal steel with his toes. Put the "bumps" on it and encourage your friend to go for it. ------------------
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Peter Jackson Member From: Midcoast Maine, USA
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posted 13 December 2004 05:12 AM
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I am a blind steeler. Been playing for 11 months and 12 days. Absolutely smitten by the PSG.Been a guitar player for 40 years. I used peel and stick braille bumps on my PSG. The heel of my bar thumb feels the bumps. They give me a good idea of where I am. I use a combination of large and small bumps.Now,if I could only learn how to do tab on the PC. Peter |
Don Joslin Member From: Trapped in Minnesota and longing for New Mexico
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posted 13 December 2004 06:11 AM
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Don't really know how to relate to steel, but I know several blind players. 2 guitarists, 3 pianists, and a sax player. Just my opinion, but from what I have observed, it is an advantage to be blind. The sense of touch and the ears that these guys have are nothing short of astounding. I used to take guitar lessons from a jazz player who had me practice improv with a blindfold. It's really difficult at first but it soon teaches you that in certain musical situations your eyes are little more than a distraction. Unless, of course, you are trying to read music.When I do picking excercises on my steel I use a CD with sustained major/minor chords traveling chromatically and I wear the blindfold. Then the only thing you have to rely on is your ears. You learn very quickly where you are on the instrument. As a side note, I am also a watercolor artist and when I wear the blindfold it lets me picture the sound in terms of colors which is cool for me. Now, if you were blind from birth then you don't have a sense of color. But, when I associate a color with a sound I truly have begun to learn to paint a picture with my instrument. Try practicing with a blindfold sometime. You might be amazed how quickly you gain a feel for where you are based on your ears and not on your eyes. Don
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Steinar Gregertsen Member From: Arendal, Norway
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posted 13 December 2004 06:23 AM
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quote: Try practicing with a blindfold sometime. You might be amazed how quickly you gain a feel for where you are based on your ears and not on your eyes.
I totally agree. I practice playing with my eyes closed now and then, and it's easier than one might believe. Steinar ------------------ www.gregertsen.com
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Danny James Member From: Columbus, Indiana, USA
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posted 13 December 2004 06:37 AM
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I practice with my eyes closed every now and then. I find that using open strings when appropriate helps me hear better to stay on key when my bar is on the frets. It's kind of a reference point. Works for me. |
David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 13 December 2004 07:14 AM
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There have been a number of blind lap steel and pedal steel players over the years. Blind piano players quickly learn to accurately hit any of the 88 keys, and blind steelers learn to hit the right frets the same way. If you think about it, orchestral string players almost never watch their fingers, and they find their way on their fretless stringed instruments just fine after the beginning years. |
Loni Specter Member From: West Hills, CA, USA
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posted 13 December 2004 07:39 AM
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My wife is in denial about being blind and those bumps are the only thing that enables her to make it down the highway.  |
Steinar Gregertsen Member From: Arendal, Norway
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posted 13 December 2004 08:01 AM
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Loni,- L L!!!Steinar ------------------ www.gregertsen.com
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David Mason Member From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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posted 13 December 2004 10:40 AM
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Where's Hankey when you need him? Based on his advice, I cut out a piece of blank paper to mask off my pedal steel fretboard and it's been a great help - when you HAVE to play by ear, you WILL get much better at it, really fast. Fret markers will keep you stupid. |
Pete Knapton Member From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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posted 14 December 2004 01:08 PM
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Thank you everyone for your replies. I have pass on your info to my friend and he is very appreciative. Regards, Pete |
Andy Volk Member From: Boston, MA
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posted 14 December 2004 06:02 PM
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Have your friend call Herb Remington in Houston: 713-923-8435 e-mail: remsteel@homerelay.net Herb taught a blind steeler named Ernie bumstead to play by feel using nail heads placed along the fretboard. The man went on to a successful pro career. Herb tried to interest several organizations for the blind in his idea but got no takers. |
Warren Slavin Member From: Southampton, PA, 18966. USA
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posted 14 December 2004 06:30 PM
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Pete --I have met and heard a totally blind person play the nonpedal steel guitar. Name: Dr Robert L Garth 70 Stanhope Rd, Sparta, NJ, 07871 2237 He has played at the HSGA Joliet convention the past three years. As I recall he became blind at very early year and does quite well with his playing -- I do not know his background on his learning but you can write to him and his wife (Barbara) will gladly respond with any info he has. Bob is a retired chiropractor, and I am sure would like to establish a dialogue with other steel players -- I believe he even plays with a group in his local area. I don't think that they have e-mail. Warren ------------------
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Denny Turner Member From: Northshore Oahu, Hawaii USA
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posted 15 December 2004 03:45 AM
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Indeed, the fret markers are only a guide for positioning speed, upon which the ear trims the tone-bar.In the past I have thought that "braille" frets and fret-markers could be made for blind Steelers by fashioning small blocks of wood at each fret that were about 1/4" shorter than string height; And thin flexible plastic rods (like heavy fishing line) could be mounted into those blocks to protrude up between the strings just above the top of the strings plane. Single rods on center could mark each fret while multiple rods could be used for fret position markers much like our visual markers are. The Tone bar would simply bend the plastic rods with no effect upon the tone bar but the fingers behind the bar would be able to feel the markers. The plastic rods have to be mounted on blocks so that their bending radius will not reach their adjacent strings during bar-bends (otherwise longer rods coming in contact with a slanted bar would ride down the bar and come in contact with the string). I have also thought that a raised thin platform could be mounted on the players side of the neck equal in height to the top of the string plane, upon which different tacks or nail heads could be arranged to be felt by the heel of the hand. I think the distance the platform should be mounted from the bass string, should be slightly more than the Steel's string spacing, to get the platform close yet guarantee at least as much room for picking clearance as the string spacing. ------- Along that same line of thought, a simpler method to try the theory, might be a threaded rod ran between a modified bridge and nut as though it were an additional bass string; Upon which small twin-nuts of varying thickness could be locked into place (or number of nuts or washers locked together) along the threaded rod to represent frets and position markers. Aloha, DT~ |
Drew Howard Member From: Mason, MI, U.S.A.
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posted 15 December 2004 05:00 AM
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I bet your friend's ear has compensated some for his blindness, so hopefully he can find notes with relative ease.Good luck, Drew ------------------ Fessenden D-10 8+8 / Magnatone S-8 (E13)
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Dan Sawyer Member From: Studio City, California, USA
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posted 15 December 2004 02:25 PM
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Denny, those are wonderful ideas. Even for a sighted player they could help. |