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Topic: Tapered bars
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Jim Palenscar
Member From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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posted 29 April 2005 06:16 PM
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I had a woman come into my shop looking for a tapered bar like she used to use "a way back when" with her lap steel. She described it as being smaller than the typical bullet bar as well. I know that I've seen them but was unable to recall where- and I promised her that I'd find her one. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance ~~ Jim |
George Rout
Member From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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posted 29 April 2005 07:02 PM
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This is what she probably meant. It's from my "bar collection". George
http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rout_geo/album?.dir=/f346 |
Brad Bechtel
Moderator From: San Francisco, CA
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posted 29 April 2005 07:09 PM
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http://www.aguitarcenter.com/rajahinfo.html shows two tapered bars, one for six string and one for other sizes. Perhaps that'll do.------------------
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Jim Bates
Member From: Alvin, Texas, USA
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posted 29 April 2005 07:26 PM
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The tapered bar was probably the Chase brand that you could get from the standard music supply houses then. I still have three of them, one of them I used on my Fender T-8 for many years. Also, a good machinist can make you a tapered bar. I had one made for a ten string many years ago.The Black Raja bars had a slight taper, but a rather blunt nose. The Chase was great for single string notes. Thanx,
Jim |
Jim Bates
Member From: Alvin, Texas, USA
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posted 29 April 2005 07:31 PM
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PS - I forgot to say that the Chase bar was a hard chrome plated, hollow, and filled with a plastic which made it light weight.Thanx, Jim |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 29 April 2005 11:14 PM
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I have a black phoenix tapered and use it all the time on C6, and also some E9 |
Jim Palenscar
Member From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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posted 30 April 2005 10:16 AM
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So- anyone have one and want to let loose of it for a fee? The Chase bar sounds about like what she's looking for- thanks for the replies- |
Terry Robbins
Member From: Quakertown,PA,USA
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posted 01 May 2005 01:46 PM
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The Black Phoenix 2.75" tapered are coming up "out of stock". But the Red Rajahs and Black Phoenixs are on sale!------------------
Carvin V220-Artie Lap Steel-Marshall Studio 15[This message was edited by Terry Robbins on 01 May 2005 at 01:47 PM.] |
C. Brattain
Member From: Balch Springs, Texas, usa
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posted 01 May 2005 04:43 PM
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I will have the tapered Black Phoenix bars back in stock in a couple weeks, Sorry about my goof up. Chuck |
Terry Robbins
Member From: Quakertown,PA,USA
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posted 06 May 2005 07:59 PM
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Let us know when they're back. My Red Rajah arrived a couple of days ago. I haven't had a chance to try it since my Artisan is still in pieces while I'm re-arranging the electricals. What were they thinking!?! |
C. Brattain
Member From: Balch Springs, Texas, usa
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posted 09 May 2005 05:15 PM
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We now have the powder coated 3/4" tapered to 7/8" x 2.75"long Black Phoenix in stock. Chuck |
Alan Kirk
Member From: Santa Barbara, CA, USA
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posted 09 May 2005 06:30 PM
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Forgive my ignorance, but why would someone want a tapered bar?------------------
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Jim Palenscar
Member From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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posted 09 May 2005 09:32 PM
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because they did as a kid...... |
Brad Bechtel
Moderator From: San Francisco, CA
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posted 10 May 2005 07:47 AM
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If you do a lot of single string work, the tapered bar seems easier to use. I have an old beat up Chase bar that's tapered, but I don't like the way it works personally.------------------
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George Keoki Lake
Member From: Edmonton, AB., Canada
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posted 10 May 2005 08:54 AM
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Tapered bars are ok for fast single string work...however I prefer the normal. By the way, speaking of bars, wasn't that George Rout I saw in a bar last night ?  |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 01 June 2005 04:43 AM
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Jim, did you ever obtain the Chase bar for your customer? |
Jim Palenscar
Member From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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posted 01 June 2005 07:18 AM
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no Howard- I've not been able to "Chase" it down yet~~ thanks for asking |
Richard Shatz
Member From: Quincy, IL, United States
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posted 01 June 2005 09:44 AM
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I have two. One has the Chase name on it. The other is identical but doesn't have the name. I'm willing to part with the no name bar. There is also a case. Email me for pictures.
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HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 01 June 2005 10:14 AM
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Jim, I have a Chase bar.Here's my offer.....send me your address & I'll ship it to you. Please make a donation to the forum, whatever you feel is appropriate. Everyone wins. just don't send b0b any possums  [This message was edited by HowardR on 01 June 2005 at 10:38 AM.] |
Ray Montee
Member From: Portland, OR, USA
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posted 01 June 2005 11:37 AM
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"Tapered bar is easier to use"........?
When compared to WHAT? |
Jim Palenscar
Member From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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posted 01 June 2005 09:23 PM
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Thanks to Howard- it is done- thanks to all of you for your help~ Jim |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 01 June 2005 11:06 PM
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Good on you HowardI like my tapered bar.
It is good for single notes,
the black coating is easy to pick up. And I like lighter weight over the light strings and more heft over the fat lower strings on C6. |
Dean Parks
Member From: Sherman Oaks, California, USA
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posted 03 June 2005 05:40 PM
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I have a tapered slide, for regular guitar... it's much thicker on the bass strings. Usually a low-sustaining bar works better on trebles than basses, and this slide fixes that problem; duration is more uniform. -dean- |
Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 03 June 2005 06:38 PM
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Howard, you know why those are tapered, don't you? Seems like that slippery Rajah coating might help some, too... |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 04 June 2005 11:26 AM
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Yes I do Chuck.....but this is a family forum...  |
Chuck Fisher
Member From: Santa Cruz, California, USA
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posted 06 June 2005 12:17 PM
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In reality, The slides make for less backwards wrist bending and as was stated earlier, can put heavier end over lower-pitched strings for uniform sustain and tone with a lighter overall bar weight.and Howard, I try never to pass on an opportunity to offend, but I don't wanna get banned from the forum. Its hard sometimes when these opportunities are so tempting. Regards to all,
CF |
George Rout
Member From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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posted 06 June 2005 07:53 PM
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Back to Keoki's note. Keoki must have been in a bar and after a dozen drinks, things probably looked "tapered"1!!!!Geo in Peach Pickin' Country, Niagara http://thepeachpickers.com/ |
Todd Weger
Member From: Safety Harbor, FLAUSA
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posted 15 April 2006 09:21 AM
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I'm bringing this thread back, because I have a Black Phoenix JB sized tapered bar, which I love. But, the black coating is literally 'wash-boarding' and crinkling up on the tip. I emailed Chuck about it, and he's always been great about setting things right, so I'm not concerned about that. I was just curious: has anyone else had this happen with their bars? It's weird. Unfortunately, it catches on the strings, so I have to get it replaced. I'd really like to find a 2.75" x 7/8" tapered bar, but hardened chrome. I'm not having too much luck finding one. If anyone knows, please post here. My friend Dick Sanft has a couple of them, but he's had them for decades, and I would certainly never ask if he'd want to part with one. In the meantime, I'll get this one replaced, because I for one really do like the tapered bar for single-note stuff. Thanks!
TJW ------------------
Todd James Weger --
1956 Fender Stringmaster T-8 (C6, A6, B11); 1960 Fender Stringmaster D-8 (C6, B11/A6); Regal resonator (C6); 1938 Epiphone Electar (A6); assorted ukuleles; upright bass
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