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Louie Warren
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From: Sumerduck, VA, USA

posted 21 October 2005 08:05 AM     profile   send email     edit
I'm sitting in with a band this weekend playing steel and guitar. I have a National D8. One neck is tuned to a tuning I made up... E B E G# B E G# F# (BTW, does anyone knowwhat this is?) and the other is tuned to E13 (E G# D F# G# B C# E). I mostly play David Lindley stuff and little Hawaiian, Western Swing stuff... nothing really complicated. Anyway, these guys want to want to do Fire On The Mountain by The Marshall Tucker Band. I believe Toy Caldwell used an E9 pedal steel. It's really hard to emulate but I've got something. Since I won't be buying a pedal steel any time soon, are there any tricks, sites, tunings, or whatever to give me a clue? I'm not very good at bar slanting or pulling behind the bar. If anyone can help, I know you guys can. Thanx!

L

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[This message was edited by Louie Warren on 21 October 2005 at 12:57 PM.]

Mark van Allen
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From: loganville, Ga. USA

posted 21 October 2005 08:51 AM     profile   send email     edit
HI, Louie- a lot of the backup stuff on FOTM uses typical E9 sliding chords and pedals, but you should be able to get close to the intro/outro bits just playing the melody Toy used in single notes. If you really want to nail it, play just a bit out of tune...
Louie Warren
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From: Sumerduck, VA, USA

posted 21 October 2005 09:00 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thanx. I did try doing different parts on different necks... but that got too confusing. He has a lot of minor stuff in there, so I tried tuning my E bastard tuning to Em... that worked for some parts and not others... I guess I could combine both... Since rehearsal is tonight and the show is Sunday afternoon, I guess I'll figure out something.

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Peter Jacobs
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From: Northern Virginia

posted 21 October 2005 09:31 AM     profile   send email     edit
When it comes to minors, don't worry about playing 3-note chords; play two of the notes and the rest of it will be implied, especially if the guitar player is playing the full chord. (I play Lindley-type stuff using open G, so this comes up a lot).

Peter

Louie Warren
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From: Sumerduck, VA, USA

posted 21 October 2005 09:51 AM     profile   send email     edit
Yeah, I do that, but I also have done the "minor" thing with three note chords... if I remember correctly, by just striking the 3rd, 5th, & 6th (back to front/top to bottom/big string to little string/this is how I count)... It works pretty good. From the replies, it seems I'm pretty much doing all I can do without buying a pedal steel!

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Travis Bernhardt
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From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

posted 21 October 2005 12:51 PM     profile   send email     edit
... or without learning some bar slants or string pulls...

-Travis

Louie Warren
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From: Sumerduck, VA, USA

posted 21 October 2005 12:57 PM     profile   send email     edit
...at least not by Sunday... besides being lazy, my fingers are retarded

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Stephan Miller
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From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA

posted 21 October 2005 01:32 PM     profile   send email     edit
Louie-- you've already got a 3-note minor chord on your E13 neck (G#C#E), and you can put one on your other neck by tuning that 1st string F# to G (where it's out of the way unless you need it). --Steve

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