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Topic: New Fender S-8 Replica
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Mark Eaton
Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA
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posted 15 February 2006 10:22 AM
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What do you guys know about these?Made in Japan? Scotty ain't exactly givin' these things away... http://www.scottysmusic.com/steellist02.htm ------------------
Mark
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Andy Sandoval
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 15 February 2006 10:56 AM
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I've heard about those but this is the first time I've even seen pictures of one. I wonder what they sound like. I'd be willin to bet that for that kind of money your probably better off lookin for a vintage one in decent shape. |
Jack Therrell
Member From: Conroe, Texas, USA
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posted 15 February 2006 11:06 AM
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Mark: I am not positive but I think the fender is made in Japan. It looks good but that is more than I would want to give. However, I am familiar with the Remington steel. The one on Scotty's post looks like a bargain to me. That is the way i would go if I was looking for another guitar. Jack |
Michael Lee Allen
Member From: Fresno CA USA
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posted 15 February 2006 11:41 AM
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These have been made in Japan since the 1980's. Single 6 and 8 and a double 8 Stringmaster. They are expensive because they are expensive in Japan. I could have got them on trade from Japanese dealers years ago but there was no way I could have broke even back then. Nowdays with the price of everything going up these may be the answer for someone who wants shiny new instead of banged-up and missing parts from eBay. I still have a refinished triple neck original for a lot less that what this one costs and someone recently paid for than this new price for an original on eBay. Buying the Fender 2000 on the same site for half the money would be a better deal. |
Joey Ace
Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 15 February 2006 12:13 PM
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I gasped when I saw the $2400 price tag.
That would be high, even for an original.
(at least for now)
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Gary Boyett
Member From: Colorado
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posted 15 February 2006 02:34 PM
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I have one of the originals and would gladly sell it for $400.00 less that that.After all, it is the least I could do... Actually I spoke to them a few years ago about a new one and they would not sell in the USA. The guy said Fender would not let them. Maybe Scotty's got more clout. |
Kunihiko Suzuki
Member From: Hakodate, Hokkaido, Japan
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posted 15 February 2006 02:37 PM
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I too believe it is a Fender Japan steel, but is much more expensive than they sell in Japan. DLX8 should be more or less $1400 in Japan. DLX6 should be $200 cheaper than DLX8. The photo below is Fender Japan steels.  |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 15 February 2006 02:58 PM
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Here is the Fender Japan page with Deluxes.
189,000 yen, that's about $1,600. Add shipping, import duty etc., and the tag goes higher. Plus Scotty has to make a few bucks for all his trouble . .As Jack mentioned, that Remington Steelmaster is a pretty good deal. Hand built by an American legend, it's a MUCH nicer guitar than any Japanese (or Chinese) Fender. |
Jim Phelps
Member From: Mexico City
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posted 15 February 2006 03:17 PM
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Has anyone here had a chance to try out any of these Japanese Fender steels? Rick?[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 15 February 2006 at 03:18 PM.] |
Scott Houston
Member From: Oakland, CA
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posted 15 February 2006 03:20 PM
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There was a post not song ago with some folks speculating about where the dies or metal stamping equiptment to make the tuning pans had ended up.Unless the Japanese Fenders are made from a resivior of "new old stock" that somehow ended up in Japan, wouldn't the fact that they still manufacture these instruments mean that all the equiptment needed to make replacement parts for Stringmasters is available? |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 15 February 2006 04:17 PM
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Does Fender Japan sell any replacement parts? The import price for the new instruments is just too steep compared to the used market right now. But replacement parts at almost any price would be a Godsend for all of us with falling apart old instruments.Also, how come all other Japanese made knockoffs are way cheaper than U.S. made instruments, but this one is not? Doesn't make good sense.[This message was edited by David Doggett on 15 February 2006 at 04:20 PM.] |
Michael Lee Allen
Member From: Fresno CA USA
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posted 15 February 2006 04:39 PM
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David...
Japanese made stuff is not cheap. Next time you pass a Tower Records see if they have copies of the Japanese magazines "Player" and/or "Guitar". Check the prices compared to the USA. |
Jim Phelps
Member From: Mexico City
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posted 15 February 2006 04:56 PM
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Made cheap? In the old days, yeah but not anymore. Compare the price of an Ibanez George Benson model guitar to a Gibson ES-175 sometime. And I hate to say it, but most people will tell you that these days, the Ibanez is better-made than the ES-175.[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 15 February 2006 at 04:56 PM.] |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 16 February 2006 01:33 AM
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quote:
Has anyone here had a chance to try out any of these Japanese Fender steels? Rick?
I haven't tried the Japanese Fender, but I have one of the Chinese FS52s. Not good . .
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Does Fender Japan sell any replacement parts?
They should, but they don't. |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 16 February 2006 02:29 AM
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In the early 90's I had a ca.- 59 Deluxe 8. At the same time a local music store here ( a Fender dealer ) had these Japanese Stringmasters, they were just as good, soundwise and workmanship, as the original ones. Like brand new Stringmasters, except that the price was outrageous. I doubt anyone here bought them and I still wonder where they went. |
Todd Clinesmith
Member From: Redcrest, California, USA
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posted 16 February 2006 09:06 AM
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Those Stringmasters look great. They look perfect in all details. It is nice to hear they sound that way as well. If they were about a $1000 less I would consider one. Maybe after a few more years of US inflation the $2,400 tag won't look so bad. |
Jim Phelps
Member From: Mexico City
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posted 16 February 2006 02:37 PM
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"that Remington Steelmaster is a pretty good deal. Hand built by an American legend, it's a MUCH nicer guitar than any Japanese (or Chinese) Fender."
"I haven't tried the Japanese Fender, but I have one of the Chinese FS52s. Not good."
Yes, I read of your disappointment with the Chinese Fender. However, a Chinese Fender is not a Japanese Fender. I would expect some experience with the item should be a prerequisite to such statements.[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 16 February 2006 at 02:38 PM.] |
Fernando Fernandez
Member From: Cadiz,Spain
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posted 16 February 2006 03:46 PM
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In my experience , Fender japanese electric guitars have a great quality. Sorry, I don't know the quality of the steel guitars.By the way, I was tryin to bid in this item. Maybe you'll find it very interesting: Auction on eBay.
Sorry Brad, I put a bad link before Edited by Brad Bechtel to shorten the URL.[This message was edited by Brad Bechtel on 16 February 2006 at 05:57 PM.] |
Robert Momot
Member From: Farmington, Missouri, USA
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posted 16 February 2006 03:56 PM
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I was at Scotty's music 02/15/06 and checked out the steels.The fender s-8 is excellent.The Fender d-10 is nice,The Remington Steel is lacking in craftsmanship not so nice. |
Jody Carver
Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 16 February 2006 05:26 PM
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FYI The parts on the Japanese Stringmasters were left over lot after Fender ceased producing steel guitars. Fender if they want can build a stringmaster to meet the standards of those of yesterday. Dont count Fender out. Many have before and failed. Keep the faith, I know I beleive in Fender, always have and always will. Keep your eyes on Fender. Jody |
Jim Phelps
Member From: Mexico City
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posted 16 February 2006 07:00 PM
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What I don't understand, and maybe Jody can shed some light on this...someone said they aren't available in the U.S...why won't Fender Japan sell their new Stringmasters in the U.S.A.? Wouldn't you think that would be the biggest market for them? Is it that Fender will not export them to the U.S., or is it that the U.S. dealers are not interested and just won't stock or order them? Is Scotty testing the water for them, or did he just personally buy one in Japan, bring it back and put it up for sale?
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Kunihiko Suzuki
Member From: Hakodate, Hokkaido, Japan
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posted 16 February 2006 09:53 PM
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I think the steel on ebay Mr. Fernandez mentioned is Arai Diamond (Aria Pro) made in Japan possibly during 60s. They no longer make any steels. Anyway, I am trying to get some information from Fender Japan. [This message was edited by Kunihiko Suzuki on 16 February 2006 at 10:10 PM.] |
Jody Carver
Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 17 February 2006 07:16 AM
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Jim
I have wondered the same thing. I have no idea why Fender wont get invloved with steel guitar production at this point. I wished I had the answer. I know they have discussed it but no further info is available.Thanks my friend Jody |
Andy Volk
Member From: Boston, MA
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posted 17 February 2006 07:41 AM
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I have an 80s Fender Japan Telecaster that is superb in every respect. Their attention to detail - at least at that time - was excellent. I owned and sold a Remington Double-8. Besides not liking the tone of the George-L's on a lap steel, the white finsih with chrome and black always reminding me of a kitchen appliance ... "I'm now going to take a solo on the stove." That and the actual carving of the Remington body doesn't have the finese of a vintage Fender, IMHO. |
Paul Arntson
Member From: Bothell ,WA (just outside Seattle)
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posted 12 March 2006 08:26 PM
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I played the Deluxe 8 Japan Fender in a music store in Nagoya last September, and it had a fine tone. The finish was modern, a little thicker than old Fender finishes, and had a little orange peel. The hadware and workmanship was all top-notch.
I think it would be a fine guitar. I don't know how to describe the feel and tone except that it was "new". Hadn't had 50 years to age. But in 50 years, I bet it will feel and sound just like a 50 year old USA Fender. |
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