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Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 21 March 2006 06:53 PM     profile   send email     edit
http://www.vintagemandolin.com/30skonastyle4_nsn.html
Ben Elder
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From: La Crescenta, California, USA

posted 22 March 2006 12:00 AM     profile   send email     edit
If the site owner cares to make attribution, contribution or retribution for the heart of the passage:

..."Light construction is the blessing and the curse of Weissenborn guitars. It gives them their tone and volume but makes them susceptible to ravages of time, environment, and overstringing. That's why many surviving Weissenborns need braces and bridges reglued, cracks fixed, or seams rejoined."...

my online contact info is accessible through the "send email" tab here. (Do you know what a professional copywriter would charge to write something like that that wasn't stolen?) But what the hell, GoldTone didn't ask ACOUSTIC GUITAR Magazine for permission to use the entire article on their website and a lot of Weissen-hawking eBayers have in turn enhanced their sales with what I now can only suppose are my timeless words. (Wonder what it'll sell for and what my cut'll be....HA!)

As to the real business at hand: I'll bet this was made in the early '30s (look at the notched tuner plates; I have a '33 Martin 0-17 with this type of tuner, as opposed to the completely rectangular Waverlys that are most often seen). The rest of this Kona seems to fit in time with a later instrument.

Looks like the neck came up at one time and was doweled below the heel. That little circle was not a standard construction feature.

(Three words: copyright, intellectual property...and we probably aren't /even/ talking a cup of coffee here.)

[This message was edited by Ben Elder on 22 March 2006 at 12:02 AM.]

[This message was edited by Ben Elder on 22 March 2006 at 12:03 AM.]

Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 22 March 2006 03:26 AM     profile   send email     edit
NOW I remeber reading those words in your AG article, Ben. In this web age of Control-C/Control-V ... two clicks to steal, ripped off and poorly attributed, or unattributed copy is epidemic. I've had it happen several times. A promo flyer for a Big Sandy CD lifted my copy entirely from an old Steel Guitar World review. The premier issue of Fretboard Journal has an article on the history of the Oahu company that footnotes my book, Lap Steel Guitar: "Several professional players began on the Oahu system or one like it, including: Ralph Kolsiana, Bob Dunn, Leon McAuliffe, Herb Remington and Pete Grant." This specific reference to Oahu info isn't anywhere in my book. It's just this author's inference. Ralph started to learn in about 1929 when there was no Oahu system. Bob Dunn took correspondence lessons. We have no way of knowing if these were similar to Oahu's tab or not.

But before this gets completely off topic, why were the round neck Kona's made, Ben? The hollow neck design already existed at this point so what was the advantage?

[This message was edited by Andy Volk on 22 March 2006 at 05:56 AM.]

Todd Clinesmith
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From: Redcrest, California, USA

posted 22 March 2006 07:23 AM     profile   send email     edit
The Kona idea was built form the Chris Knutsen "conversion guitar". This was a Hawaiian instrument that could go from Hawaiiian guitar to Spanish style with a few adjustments. The Knutsen had a round neck to the 7th fret like the Kona but also wingnut attachment at the heel of the neck that would change the angle of the neck. This way some one could have one guitar to tour with and have two guitars in one ( that was the idea atleast). This is why the Kona's were built with actual frets instead of the inlaid frets you find on a square neck Weissenborn.
I have an old Kona in pretty good condition and it sounds great. I like the tone more than most of the Weissenborns I have played.

I think $3700 seems a bit steep with the doweled neck issue.
Todd

Ben Elder
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From: La Crescenta, California, USA

posted 24 March 2006 12:08 AM     profile   send email     edit
I have a beater/fixer Kona that someone tried to convert to Spanish by leveling the elevated center section of the bridge. (Even I can tell how bad the Spanish intonation is with this improvement. Guitar repair should require a license.) It's all I can do to keep the metal saddle from pulling out of its groove and bending under string tension.

The Kona design was pretty much exclusive with teacher and publisher C S DeLano. In other words, you don't see any Weissenborn-branded Hawaiians with the round 7-fret neck. (Exceptions and close calls: some early solid square neck Weissenborns; two-that-I-know-of 4" deep hollowneck Weissenborns (late era) and one Spanish Style C (to all appearances) Weissenborn, except that it has a Kona label. A Michigan violinmaker named Brink made some hybrid Hawaiians with features of both around the early '30s.

I have yet to see any Konas (specifically branded) that could be attributed to Chris Knutsen, but I found (and Gregg Miner posted on his Knutsen Pages) a 1916 ad for the appearance of DeLano's ensemble at a Chautauqua organization event of some sort. They have many Knutsen Hawaiians which seem to be predecessors of the Kona design to come. Knutsen (Norwegian for "no two alike") had many different neck-joint locations. I say only somewhat in jest that it might have had something to do with the length of the top, back or side pieces he was working with.

I have seen three Konas about which I have doubts as to Weissenborn's hand in their manufacture. (Also--clearly not Knutsen-made, either.) The one I own has lots of discrepancies (size of binding pieces, tuner location, brace size, perpendicular neck heel, etc.) Alas, it's been overbrushed with an orange stain, given (and had removed--from the /back[!]/) a pickup and new cheap plastic nut and extra fretboard inlays. Enough nonsense and then some to corrupt the forensic evidence. it is of the period and has the later Kona label. Very comparable sound to the Weissenborn-made ones, however.

I love the extra bass rumble in these. Even though there's a little less on the high end compared to a Weissenborn, still, a little less treble than a Weissenborn is a lot more than most anything else. (I wish someone would make a spruce and maple Kona--mo' volume and treble. I wish I had room for a workshop, because I've never seen one of these--old or new.) At one time, I figured out that the David Lindley recordings that sent me swooning the mooniest were ones where he was using the old Kona (old label, old fretboard inlays--also Mr. Dave's magic-markerings for alternate keys--also seen on an ACOUSTIC GUITAR cover in the hands of Ry Cooder) which, if I remember right, Jackson Browne gave him. Style 3, if memory serves.

David Siegler
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From: Mill Valley, CA USA

posted 25 March 2006 03:44 PM     profile   send email     edit
Ben, do you have any idea how many Kona guitars were produced by Weissenborn? I have a fantastic, rich sounding Style 3 that is one of my favorite instruments. The tone... oh my!
Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 31 March 2006 06:32 PM     profile   send email     edit
And then there's this one ....

http://www.gryphonstrings.com/instpix/25294/25294.html

Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 31 March 2006 07:35 PM     profile   send email     edit
David:

Noe & Most's book on Chris Knutsen, which has a chapter on Kona guitars, estimates that less than 1,000 Konas were built, with those made by Weissenborn being the most common. (The authors believe that "Kona" brand guitars were built by Weissenborn and Knutsen, as well as the Schireson Brothers, who also made Lyric and Mai Kai Hawaiian guitars.)

(Ben, I initially overlooked your line about "Knutsen" and "no two alike." That deserves a rimshøt! )

[This message was edited by Russ Young on 01 April 2006 at 11:30 AM.]

David Siegler
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From: Mill Valley, CA USA

posted 01 April 2006 10:33 AM     profile   send email     edit
Andy, that looks exactly like mine though mine had numerous repairs before I got it. Fortunately they were well done but it was the tone I fell for. As long as it didn't explode it was gonna be mine to watch over. If I find the time I may take mine down to Gryphon just to listen to them side by side.

Russ, thanks for that info!

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