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Topic: David Lindley's Tone
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Mitch Druckman
Member From: Arizona, USA
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posted 16 June 2006 07:05 PM
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What does (did) Lindley use to distort his lap steels? It doesn't sound like an overdrive or fuzztone alone. The overdrive seems to have a filter or something on it, like a mild auto-wah. How did he do it? How can I get that tone? |
Richard Sevigny
Member From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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posted 16 June 2006 07:27 PM
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I read somewhere he's got custom made/rewired amps..  ..this pic is from his website |
Keith Cordell
Member From: Atlanta
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posted 17 June 2006 03:17 AM
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That pic is a Dumble Overdrive Special. I have been to see Uncle Dave a few times, even got to speak with his tech once, and got no real insight into his electric sound; once he was using a red knob Evil Twin, the other time it was all acoustic stuff and he had a short rack that he was hooked up to. Never saw any pedals, though I am fairly sure that he has something in the signal chain for a few things I have on live discs. Either way his tone is always incredible. I'd love to see an interview where someone talks with him about devices and tone. |
John Dahms
Member From: Perkasie, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 17 June 2006 07:30 AM
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I don't know what he uses, but it would seem to me that anyone who uses a Dumble amp would not put anything else in the chain. It would be like putting glass-pack pipes on a Ferrari- what's the point? |
Terry VunCannon
Member From: Randleman, North Carolina, USA
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posted 17 June 2006 07:42 AM
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I read in an interview, & talked to him after a show, and he considers his Dumble to be "His" sound on lap steel. He says when he was younger, he played "Real Loud". Pictured above is his main National Dynamic(For E & D tunings), he also has Panda Ric that he played on "Running On Empty" tuned to open A(yes A with the open E position, A-E-C#-A-E-A,)and I think his double neck is a Supro.
For his acoustic work, he is using Ultrasound amps with built in FX, two of the 50 watt versions.
I have a National that is the twin of Lindley's that I had him autograph at one of his solo show...I now call it "The Lindley".[This message was edited by Terry VunCannon on 17 June 2006 at 07:44 AM.] |
Brad Bechtel
Moderator From: San Francisco, CA
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posted 17 June 2006 09:06 AM
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Last time I saw Mr. Dave with El Rayo X, he played a Supro doubleneck through a red knob Fender Twin. He was using some kind of Ibanez Tube Screamer, but I couldn't see which one. I know that his classic sound with Jackson Browne relied on the Rickenbacker B6.Here is a description of his acoustic instrument lineup as of 2000, via Acoustic Guitar magazine. He used a Roland Jazz Chorus JC-120 amp for many years; that might be part of the sound you're hearing as well. I'd suggest a bit of overdrive, a small bit of chorus effect, and a lot of practice!  ------------------
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Jon Light
Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 17 June 2006 09:18 AM
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OK--it's probably been asked before but........any recommendations of a CD for the best collection of his best electric playing? I hate not knowing his music beyond "Empty". |
Terry VunCannon
Member From: Randleman, North Carolina, USA
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posted 17 June 2006 09:38 AM
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Yeah Brad, he talked about really liking the Roland, but that lately he had switched to the Ultrasounds, smaller & easy to set up & move around...he said that the Ultrasound did not color the sound of any of the acoustic intruments, even with the FX on. I saw a picture of him with a Tube Screamer also...I carry a tube screamer with my rig in case I have to play someone else's amp...go from the lap to the TS, then into a clean channel of a amp & dial up your sound. If is a loud amp(Like a Fender Twin), you can get a good Lindley sound without being to loud...with a low watt amp, just plug in & turn it up. |
Tom Baylis
Member From: Portland, Oregon
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posted 17 June 2006 10:12 AM
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ToneQuest did an interview with David in July 2005 which, coincidentally, I found is available as a freebie if one orders a trial subscription. I haven't read it yet, but recalling the info was enough for me, as a big fan of DL's tone, to just sign up for a trial subscription to read this. I've been meaning to subscribe anyway. Backorders are also available in pdf download format for $10 too. http://tonequest.com/ [This message was edited by Tom Baylis on 17 June 2006 at 10:15 AM.] |
Russ Tkac
Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 17 June 2006 10:28 AM
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I believe I read in the studio it was a tweed deluxe turned up. I got the sound with my 66 Bassman blackface 212 cab on loud! When I would record a solo my friend's wife had to leave the house. |
Keith Cordell
Member From: Atlanta
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posted 18 June 2006 05:29 AM
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Yeah Terry I heard about the Evil Twin amps he was using too. I had one and it was so loud when turned up to 2 that I was afraid the art would fall off my walls. If there was a lower powered version of that amp I'd probably bite, but yikes. |
Bill Quinn
Member From: Minnesota, USA
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posted 18 June 2006 06:07 AM
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In an interview way back in the Running on Empty days, possibly in Guitar Player, he said he used a distortion pedal that he had altered in some way. The only time I saw him live was with El Rayo X, that was some incredible playing!! |
Terry VunCannon
Member From: Randleman, North Carolina, USA
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posted 18 June 2006 07:55 AM
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Keith...try a Fender Deluxe Reverb(around 40 watts I think)...the bass/guitar player in our band keeps two of them on her van, & I like them a lot. Here lately, I have been using a Fender Blues JR(15 watts with a 12)& it is perfect for lap steel. I also bought(Don't laugh)a cheap Peavey Bandit 65, & it really sounds a lot like the Lindley sound...I paid around a $100 for it...I could play guitar through it, but it really sounds good for the lap steel...there is something about solid state & steel. And Bill, I wonder if the pedal had something done like the things that "The Analog Man" does...I have played through one that he worked on & it was killer...check analogman.com I think.[This message was edited by Terry VunCannon on 18 June 2006 at 07:56 AM.] |
Dan Tyack
Member From: Seattle, WA USA
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posted 18 June 2006 02:19 PM
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IMHO the key to this sound is a Supro/National played through a tube amp with the volume turned way up. |
Bill Blacklock
Member From: Powell River, British Columbia, Canada
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posted 18 June 2006 04:55 PM
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National Dynamic through a Tonebone "Classic" distortion pedal , any amp will do. This pedal will give you tones all the way from Lindley to Zepplin (you shock me). About $100 bucks on e-bay |
John Billings
Member From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA
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posted 19 June 2006 01:10 PM
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All this talk about Mr. Daves stuff reminds me of seeing his cohort Ry Cooder on the tonight show. I think it was "Little Village" era. He had a gigantic rack behind him. I mean like 6 feet tall, crammed with stuff. On top of this huge rack sat a little old Supro type amp. He was plugged directly into the little old amp, and was using the immense rack as an amp stand! Cracked me up! |
Alvin Blaine
Member From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA
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posted 20 June 2006 12:48 AM
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quote:
try a Fender Deluxe Reverb(around 40 watts I think)
A stock Fender Deluxe Reverb is 22 watts. |
Chris Walke
Member From: St Charles, IL
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posted 20 June 2006 11:25 AM
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On the Running On Empty album, he seems to use a Phase pedal on a couple of the tunes. The one that comes to mind immediately is "You Love the Thunder." |
Mike D
Member From: Phx, Az
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posted 20 June 2006 12:11 PM
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and was using the immense rack as an amp stand!Mmmmmm, immense raaaackkk.....  ------------------
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Keith Cordell
Member From: Atlanta
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posted 20 June 2006 01:22 PM
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I know that song, I always thought he got that phasey tone with his bar. I've done it accidentally a few times, hehehe. Hard to control it just so, but Dave certainly has the technique. |
John Billings
Member From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA
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posted 20 June 2006 02:02 PM
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Gee Mike! Get your mind out of the gutter!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! |
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